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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.3.3 7F32

I'll say it again...I hope they fix the VPC emulator printer bug.

It just doesn't work in Panther, so I have to keep one of my computers running Jaguar.
 
The article says bugs in "networking" were addressed.

Here's to hoping for a working Windows SMB share browser. It's completely useless as it is...
 
When they fix the Networking problems in Panther I will be happy! But it doesn't look like they are addressing them in this fix 😕
 
Go here for a list comparison of OS updates for MS, RedHat and Mac OS X.

MS - 69
RedHat - +90 (Appears only 25 seem to be relevant.)
Mac OS X - 29
 
Originally posted by wchamlet
I still haven't upgraded to 10.3, and I don't really see a reason too. I'm curious as to wether or not Apple is intending to update every .x increment, like 10.2-10.3-10.4? I don't really see the logic in it, especially considering that 10.2 still works perfect, at least for me. I can see why they need to update the OS, so don't misunderstand me. I just don't see the need to update the OS with a few improvements, every year.
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Well, everybody has theere own wants and/or needs.

What 10.3 improved for me was the speed of anything that was memory or disk intensive. This includes the first stage of burning a CD-R or DVD-R where you're copying files to the image.

Just do what you think you need, but you may find features of programs and new versions of programs don't wrok correctly.

Although you may get away with skipping 10.3, you may want to consider 10.4 (presuming that's the next major release).
 
On my Power Mac running 10.3.2 when I format my USB Flash Drive to MS-DOS format and try to copy a file to it my whole system hangs... First the finder gets the beach ball, then I try to open up the terminal to login as su but then that just hangs there (if I do get in and type 'reboot' te system hangs in the process), if I try to use Fast User Switching the computer hangs. It was fine in 10.2

Then again my USB drive also crashes OS 9 computers. It's an Apacer Handy Steno TN202, it works fine in Windows.
 
I hope they fix the firewire issues. Particularly the problem with using iSight in combination with a firewire hard drive. Quite a few threads on this problem in the Apple discussion boards.

Open GL improvements would be nice. UT2004 demo already rocks on my G5!!!
 
Re: perl

Originally posted by stocke2
hopefully they will put perl.h back in where it belongs, so I can install the perl modules I need
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If you are smart enough to realize it is not in the right place, you are more than capable of making a softlink (ln -s) in the place where the modules look for it.

I don't install too many odd UNIX source packages on OS X, but I have softlinks all over the place on my linux system to accomodate programs with eccentricities.
 
Here's hoping this one is stable (at least for me).

I'm envious of all those here who are having such a smooth Panther experience. While not by any means awful, Panther has been far less stable on my TiBook than was Jag.

In about 1.25 yrs of Jag I had maybe three hangs/kernel panics.

Recently I've been having three per week in Panther. 🙁
 
i'd like to comment that a significant about of problems with any os is the result of bad maintenance by the user... not to say that's really why some of you experience such problems mentioned here.

just thought i'd throw in that perspective though.
 
Originally posted by SiliconAddict
*sighs* And yet everyone bitches about MS updates....... 🙄
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This has gone into before, but there is a massive difference:

Apple: I'm happy with my OS now, and every update seems to make it faster and/or add new features. I love OSX updates.

MS: I'm not happy with a number of features / performance issues in XP, and every update seems to either have no apparent difference to my experience, or at worst, takes feautures away or slows down parts of my system. I bitch about MS updates.

It's not the updates that determine the attitude ... it's what the updates do.
 
Originally posted by stcanard
This has gone into before, but there is a massive difference:

Apple: I'm happy with my OS now, and every update seems to make it faster and/or add new features. I love OSX updates.
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Mmmmm..

I especially liked the one that borked battery life...or the one that hosed people's ethernet.

However, I don't recall the one that upgraded support for rose tinted spectacles. You certainly seem to have gotten it, though.

🙄

Apple's upgrades are *far* from perfect.
 
*fires up Microsoft Software Update Services admin page on company server*

*views update counts*

IE 5.0x -- 268 updates
IE 5.5 -- 119 updates
IE 6.x -- 326 updates
Windows 2000 -- 1755 updates
Windows XP -- 1482 updates
Windows Server 2003 -- 355 updates

These are only English updates classed as 'critical', although some updates replace others.

So don't even *bother* comparing OS X to Windows!
 
Originally posted by displaced
*fires up Microsoft Software Update Services admin page on company server*

*views update counts*

IE 5.0x -- 268 updates
IE 5.5 -- 119 updates
IE 6.x -- 326 updates
Windows 2000 -- 1755 updates
Windows XP -- 1482 updates
Windows Server 2003 -- 355 updates

These are only English updates classed as 'critical', although some updates replace others.

So don't even *bother* comparing OS X to Windows!
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I agree - you can't compare the updates. OS X tends to have update 'series' where you fix 10+ things in a patch. Microsoft tends to release very spot patches for a specific bug.
If you really wanted, you could compare say that OSX 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3 are equvilient to Microsoft "Service Packs" -- which actually puts MS as having /less/ patches (as compared to WinXP). It's apples and oranges.
Windows users really don't have a big excuse with XP because of automatic updating; but people love to beat on the 'big guy'.
Everyone has patches.
 
My question: Will Apple finally fix the USB 2.0 sleeping problems on the G4 iBooks? If I unplug my iBook from a USB 2 device, sleep it, then wake it and plug it back in, the USB 2 doesn't work (USB 1.1 will still work, though). I've repeated the process on other laptops, with many different USB 2 devices, and the problem is replicated. Sounds like a software problem to me 😡
 
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Mmmmm..

I especially liked the one that borked battery life
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It didn't really "bork" the battery life, it just screwed up the time remaining calculation that was reported. My iBook battery at full charge would report somewhere nearly three hours and after the 10.2.8 update (the first) it maxed out at about 1:40. However, I used the iBook in that state for well over two hours...and the re-release of the 10.2.8 update fixed it (and Panther makes the battery life even better). So the first update did not "bork" the real battery life just like the second version did not "unbork" anything.
 
Originally posted by stcanard
This has gone into before, but there is a massive difference:

Apple: I'm happy with my OS now, and every update seems to make it faster and/or add new features. I love OSX updates.

MS: I'm not happy with a number of features / performance issues in XP, and every update seems to either have no apparent difference to my experience, or at worst, takes feautures away or slows down parts of my system. I bitch about MS updates.

It's not the updates that determine the attitude ... it's what the updates do.
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you took the words right out of my mouth and beat me to it. But I might add that although there is always a chance for an enhancment (the thrilling part) there is sometimes another issue that crops up. But hey, what can you expect from an os that does a million and one things, eh? 😉 😛
 
Originally posted by fatzmack
i'd like to comment that a significant about of problems with any os is the result of bad maintenance by the user... not to say that's really why some of you experience such problems mentioned here.

just thought i'd throw in that perspective though.
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I'm neurotically anal about maintaining my own system, but I have to say that the incremental updates of 10.2.8, 10.3.1, and 10.3.2 have really sucked. For the oodles of things fixed, other things seem to go wrong.
 
Originally posted by macFanDave
It didn't really "bork" the battery life, it just screwed up the time remaining calculation that was reported. My iBook battery at full charge would report somewhere nearly three hours and after the 10.2.8 update (the first) it maxed out at about 1:40. However, I used the iBook in that state for well over two hours...and the re-release of the 10.2.8 update fixed it (and Panther makes the battery life even better). So the first update did not "bork" the real battery life just like the second version did not "unbork" anything.
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Nah, there are a couple issues here. For some people, the 10.2.8 (v1) update really did kill their batteries. Not the timer -- the batteries' abilities to charge and to hold a charge.

For others (me included), the issue has been one of the timer, just like you described above. (With no fix, might I add....it's annoying to have your computer go into forced sleep when it shows about 50% battery life on the monitor.)
 
AppleMatt

Originally posted by AppleMatt
I also hope games will see a noticeable improvement, but I have a suspicion that it will be a fix for the "full-screen single color on resolution change" bug. If we're lucky, there will be both! (Remember Apple has had a few games developer conferences recently)

Two questions though:
What exactly is a high-level toolbox, I thought I had grasped the idea but now I'm not so sure. Can someone (possibly DaveL?) give a descent definition/explanation.

Also, there was a documented bug with 10.3.2 that slowed application startup, I'm not at the right machine at the mo, but when I get home I'll post the info. Anyone confirm if this is fixed or not? (Please don't confuse with the long system-startup bug). I'm refraining from installing developer builds when I'm not at home.

AppleMatt
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The high-level toolbox gives you menus, buttons and all the other human interface widgets.

HTH

I haven't gotten it dl'd yet, so I can't comment. With the long delay since pulling the initial seed, I would suspect that this seed won't be out long before it's released as final. At least, I hope that's the case.
 
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