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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.6.1 Build 10B504 to Developers
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Although it's far away from current hubbubs and what nots, and chances are we might not even GET to see this with how things are evolving, but I cannot help trying to picture how Mac OS 11 will look like and with all the troubles we've had now, how we'll moan about the troubles then.
For an OS that was launched on the basis of "The Most Stable OS in the history", I think Snow Leopard is a bit of a lie.
We've all done the updates, most of us on a fresh new HDD and somehow, the same computers, same model, same build, clean install STILL produces different anomalies when it comes to errors and bugs, right out of the box.
I get periodically a constant slowdown, beach ball spinning and the hard disk spinning out of control. All the while I can't do a damn thing with the OS, it's stalling and the beach ball is here more often than in Leopard.
What causes this is beyond me.
Anyway, I agree, since 14th of August this OS is in high demand of a new update.
This was NOT a finished product. Somethings just work.
I'll take the "half full" approach: There are plenty of people who have the same machines, same installs, and are having no problems at all. Generally, people are only vocal when there is a problem, but that doesn't mean that people are only having problems or that nothing is working.
Also, if you can take the same OS and run it on multiple machines that each have different problems the chances are greater that there is something on that machine that is causing the problem, whether an application/driver was on there in the first place or transferred/installed shortly after. Even the migration assistant can cause problems with a fresh install.
TRUE...
I guess I'm just a bit bitter about this all... It'll clear up.... sooner or later.
Question: What's the point of doing a clean install and then using migration assistant to restore all your old crap back? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of clean install?
Here's what I did. I did an erase and install (after backing up of course). I moved all of my music and movies back. Then I started over from scratch. Basically installing applications one by one. This way... if something starts acting up, I can determine if it's from a certain application I installed. So far, I've installed all the apps I use on a regular basis and everything seems to be running as I would expect. Snow Leopard has been tons better (for me) than Leopard. I'm enjoying it and I'm sure that I'm not the only one not having issues.
I'm not saying Snow Leopard is completely without issues, but the few small minor glitches I've run into are nothing to worry about.
Here's what I did. I did an erase and install (after backing up of course). I moved all of my music and movies back. Then I started over from scratch. Basically installing applications one by one. This way... if something starts acting up, I can determine if it's from a certain application I installed. So far, I've installed all the apps I use on a regular basis and everything seems to be running as I would expect. Snow Leopard has been tons better (for me) than Leopard. I'm enjoying it and I'm sure that I'm not the only one not having issues.
I'm not saying Snow Leopard is completely without issues, but the few small minor glitches I've run into are nothing to worry about.
Thanks Issmit02, I am aware of that driver and have tried several times to install it with no luck. It goes through all the dialogue boxes just like it was installing, but, alas when I check the driver in System Profiler, it is still the old 1.0.6, in stead of the 1.0.7. Frustrating for me and apparently LOTS of others are having issues with printers.
Rich
Defrag a Mac? Clean Install?
How do you do a defrag on a mac? Also, what is a "clean install"? I put in the snow leopard disk and followed the prompts to install - is a clean install something different? Thanks for your input.
And by the way - a cool change with SL is that when something crashes, it automatically reports the issue (after notifying you with a bunch of code stuff) instead of asking if you want to report it.
How do you do a defrag on a mac? Also, what is a "clean install"? I put in the snow leopard disk and followed the prompts to install - is a clean install something different? Thanks for your input.
And by the way - a cool change with SL is that when something crashes, it automatically reports the issue (after notifying you with a bunch of code stuff) instead of asking if you want to report it.
You don't have to - the file system itself self-defrags and handles things to control fragmentation.
Launch Disk Utility from the Utilities menu in the installer, format the hard disk, quit Disk Utility then continue with the install.
I'm always sceptical about those automated reporters given that I rarely see the result in the following version or update fixing the problem. It might make one feel good like they're doing Apple a service but if Apple aren't using the feedback to fix bugs in their software then it is a waste of time and bandwidth.
There are a few commercial defragmenters for Mac. iDefrag is one I used.
Mac OS X doesn't auto-defrag files in the way many people claim. It ignores most large files completely, and it even fails to auto-defrag smaller files if you don't have enough free space available at the specific time it would have defragged the file.
I posted a screenshot of how heavily fragmented a Mac gets after a few months use.
http://xenomorph.net/apple/fragmentation/
http://xenomorph.net/images/mac/mac-frag-1.png
A lot of people claim fragmentation doesn't happen, or that it doesn't affect Macs OS X as it does in Windows, but Macs do get fragmented, and I had an immediate and noticeable improvement in boot and launch times after I defragged my MacBook Pro.
A clean install is just something where you install things "clean" - not over an existing installation. That way you know any bad settings or random files aren't left over.
Glad to hear it. But I have to sell this stuff and Leopard has been Vista with spots. I'm going to wait for a couple of more Leopard service packs before I buy.
I love how the "Use as default" view option in Finder doesn't work at all. Please fix this!!
Also, bring back the option to disable trackpad icon scaling on the desktop (i.e., with multi-touch trackpads, you can change the desktop icon size with two fingers. One of the Leopard point releases delivered an option to disable this).
And I still wish Spotlight's "Show All" was like that of 10.4 Tiger, where it actually divided up everything by it's kind (Folder, Document, etc.) instead of Leopard and now Snow Leopard's "Show All" which just displays the results all thrown together in a folder.
Also, bring back the option to disable trackpad icon scaling on the desktop (i.e., with multi-touch trackpads, you can change the desktop icon size with two fingers. One of the Leopard point releases delivered an option to disable this).
And I still wish Spotlight's "Show All" was like that of 10.4 Tiger, where it actually divided up everything by it's kind (Folder, Document, etc.) instead of Leopard and now Snow Leopard's "Show All" which just displays the results all thrown together in a folder.
Sounds like you've got some major problems.. I've upgraded several systems of various types without experiencing any of the issues you've mentioned. Has your system been upgraded before (e.g. from Tiger to Leopard)?
I miss this greatly from Tiger. I guess they decided that the Show All should behave like a Finder window.
Problems with SierraWireless USB 881 driver
When I emailed SierraWireless asking about compatibility problems with 10.6 and its driver software Sierra Watcher, the company said to down load a new build. I did and upgraded to 10.6. Everything was OK except while the driver found the cell phone tower OK, connecting caused a fatal error. Can't live without internet connectivity so I went back to 10.5.8. I emailed SierraWireless again, and lo, another build this one from 9/4. I downloaded again. However, I'm going to hold off on 10.6 until 10.6.1 comes out. This isn't Apple's fault if third-party software isn't compatible, they've had enough time to adapt their software.
When I emailed SierraWireless asking about compatibility problems with 10.6 and its driver software Sierra Watcher, the company said to down load a new build. I did and upgraded to 10.6. Everything was OK except while the driver found the cell phone tower OK, connecting caused a fatal error. Can't live without internet connectivity so I went back to 10.5.8. I emailed SierraWireless again, and lo, another build this one from 9/4. I downloaded again. However, I'm going to hold off on 10.6 until 10.6.1 comes out. This isn't Apple's fault if third-party software isn't compatible, they've had enough time to adapt their software.
I miss this greatly from Tiger. I guess they decided that the Show All should behave like a Finder window.
Oh how I long for the Tiger Spotlight. I find Leopard's to actually be much less useful than it's predecessor. I so wish they would bring back the old views.....
