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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.6.2 Build 10C535 to Developers

AidenShaw said:
Yes, I do. Windows 7 does (it does TRIM).
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gbrandt said:
Windows 7 does TRIM with an update from INTEL which they have now pulled because of issues with data corruption.
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Windows 7 can only use TRIM if the storage driver, storage controller and ssd support it which is the biggest problem right now: a few drivers support it, only the Indilinx Barefoot ssd's do TRIM as Intel pulled its TRIM-supported firmware and there are no RAID controllers that can do TRIM, so for some it's useless. Doesn't really matter as garbage collection techniques are used instead of TRIM. Those garbage collection techniques are getting better and better, some are that good you don't actually need TRIM (it is a nice addition though).

It would be nice if drivers, ssd's and controllers start to support things like TRIM but that just takes quite a while. Until then it really does not matter if the OS supports it or not. In other words: there is no need to put it in the 10.6.2 update, putting it in the 10.6.4 update is probably better (we should have some more support by that time *wishful thinking*).
 
rickgraham said:
Maybe they are trying to keep up with the STELLAR updates that Microsoft puts out. :D I know every Wednesday I come in work, I have to load new updates on the Windows servers which (of course) require a restart.
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Oh really - I only see updates once a month on Patch Tuesday, "the second Tuesday of each month, the day on which Microsoft releases security patches."

Why are you getting them 4 times more often than the rest of the world?

And, by the way, for a well-run server most of the patches are unnecessary - few of the things that are patched are relevant to any particular server role. If you haven't enabled un-needed services and roles - then fixes in those components aren't needed.

A couple of months ago I retired two Linux machines and a Windows Server 2003 machine at a colo. The uptime on the Linux machines was 45 days and 47 days. The uptime on the Windows Server was 356 days. (The Linux systems were rebooted to clear up a network problem - I hate that sinking feeling you get after typing ifdown on a server that's 32km away at the server farm.)
 
AidenShaw said:
A couple of months ago I retired two Linux machines and a Windows Server 2003 machine at a colo. The uptime on the Linux machines was 45 days and 47 days. The uptime on the Windows Server was 356 days. (The Linux systems were rebooted to clear up a network problem - I hate that sinking feeling you get after typing ifdown on a server that's 32km away at the server farm.)
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"Milege may vary"

Any well looked after server will have a theoretically unlimited uptime. Our CentOS server haven't been shut off ever since they were officially started. (156ish days)
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
Ugh. I'm getting tired of waiting for this update. I want my glitch fixes now.
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This, if they already have a lot of the fixes ready to go... roll .2 out and get .3 ready fro two weeks from now.

I am so hoping they fix the damn wifi disconnect issues.
 
MrBean said:
This, if they already have a lot of the fixes ready to go... roll .2 out and get .3 ready fro two weeks from now.

I am so hoping they fix the damn wifi disconnect issues.
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What wifi disconnect issues?

Have you tried changing your wifi channel to 11? Some electronics can disrupt the wifi signal (such as a cordless phone for example).

Try changing the channel.
 
MrBean said:
This, if they already have a lot of the fixes ready to go... roll .2 out and get .3 ready fro two weeks from now.
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I'm sure that releasing an OS update has considerable overhead. It's not something Apple wants to do every couple of weeks.

Historically, two and a half months after the initial OS release is just about when we should expect the .2 update. And 10.5.2, which was a significant update to Leopard, took three and a half.
 
TheSpaz said:
What wifi disconnect issues?

Have you tried changing your wifi channel to 11? Some electronics can disrupt the wifi signal (such as a cordless phone for example).

Try changing the channel.
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I know all about that.

Look on the official boards, there is a huge problem affecting random computers. Your airport will suddenly drop your connection for a couple of seconds. It doesn't happen on my 17" Imac CD, but my wife's Alum Macbook will do it 10-15 times every half hour. Gets damn annoying when she is chatting online. Gets downright crappy when she is taking a test online for her class (she has started using my computer only for classwork now.)

Changing locations nor locations helps.

Here's the thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2142725&start=15&tstart=0
 
Does anyone know if this version is actually stable? There are FAR TOO MANY beach-balls right now happening.
 
AidenShaw said:
Oh really - I only see updates once a month on Patch Tuesday, "the second Tuesday of each month, the day on which Microsoft releases security patches."

Why are you getting them 4 times more often than the rest of the world?
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The amount of fixes does not say anything about what software is more secure. Getting less fixes on a predefined time can be a huge security risk (great for timebombing stuff) and could also point at the fact stuff doesn't get fixed. Therefore you need to take a closer look at what's being pushed out. You have to look at bugs vs fixes as well as things like severity and impact.

And, by the way, for a well-run server most of the patches are unnecessary - few of the things that are patched are relevant to any particular server role. If you haven't enabled un-needed services and roles - then fixes in those components aren't needed.
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That depends on the patches. I can imagine you want security patches but a patch that adds some new feature is not wanted. Security fixes are always needed even if you have disabled stuff. It may be enabled in the future and it can be used to exploit the machine. Windows has a bad reputation with this (check uit SANS, Secunia, etc.) so luckily real sysadmins always install all the security updates whether or it it's for something that isn't currently being used.

A couple of months ago I retired two Linux machines and a Windows Server 2003 machine at a colo. The uptime on the Linux machines was 45 days and 47 days. The uptime on the Windows Server was 356 days. (The Linux systems were rebooted to clear up a network problem - I hate that sinking feeling you get after typing ifdown on a server that's 32km away at the server farm.)
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Uptime is for wankers because that also says nothing. Yeah great the server has been up for 356 days but were you able to access all of its services all of that time and did it work correctly? Same goes for the Linux machines. It's the availability of a system or rather a service that counts. With some setups like clusters you don't really care about 1 server. Typing ifdown is no problem as most servers have LOM (or whatever the manufacturer calls it) and for those that don't you have console systems or the APC powerbars.

Nice ranting but the only thing you're proofing is the fact that you're unsuited as a sysadmin.

orta said:
everyone with flash problems get Click2Flash
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Firefox users can use the Flashblock extension.

zedsdead said:
Does anyone know if this version is actually stable? There are FAR TOO MANY beach-balls right now happening.
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Did you install the performance update that was released a while back? For most people it solved their beachballing problems.
 
Another seed is out, 10c540.

Focus Areas (Changes in 10C540):
AFP
  • Resolves an AFP panic.
AirPort
  • Resolves a performance issue on new iMacs.
GraphicsDrivers
  • Fixes a system hang issue on some video cards.
  • Resolves a kernel panic on some video cards.
  • Resolves an issue with plugging and unplugging to an Apple TV.
Kernel
  • Resolves a VMWare issue.
USB
  • Resolves a panic with USB.
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MikhailT said:
Another seed is out, 10c540.
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This is turning into Apples own major service pack to get Snow Leopard up to speed; I wonder if some of the speed improvements are LLVM 2.6 changes being merged back into Snow Leopard to improve graphics speed. I wonder if one of the big changes in 10.7 will be a complete move to LLVM to replace GCC - although Apple will still unfortunately be reliant on the GNU toolchain (binutils and so forth), unless that is a project yet to be started :D
 
macintoshtoffy said:
This is turning into Apples own major service pack to get Snow Leopard up to speed; I wonder if some of the speed improvements are LLVM 2.6 changes being merged back into Snow Leopard to improve graphics speed. I wonder if one of the big changes in 10.7 will be a complete move to LLVM to replace GCC - although Apple will still unfortunately be reliant on the GNU toolchain (binutils and so forth), unless that is a project yet to be started :D
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Well the final move to LLVM is inevitable, Apple wouldn't spend all the money and resources on Clang/LLVM for no reasons.

IMO this is the first real major point update for Snow Leopard, I have a feeling 10.6.1 was just a quick bang up release to close some important bugs like Flash and few other things unlike 10.6.2 which has over 150 components being updated. It should be an interesting update to see.
 
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