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Apple Seeds Mac OS X Leopard (9A527/9A528a)

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exigentsky said:
From what I understand, screen sharing still exists but it has been moves to the Finder. It isn't in iChat anymore. But then again, I have no special information.
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Thank you, I know that it is in Finder, but I am curious if it is still in iChat as well because in the last screen shots of the last build I saw iChat still had the button for it.
 
Hi, I used Leopard about two builds ago and I don't remember there being an iChat screensharing function; it had been moved exclusively to the Finder, letting you screen-share with someone on your network, but through terminal or something you could launch it "outside-the-box" and have it prompt you for any old ip-address to use. I could have just missed it though in iChat... and seeing as how it's a Finder thing, i really see no point in not making a Share Screen button or menu item in iChat, all it'd do is be a link to the screensharing finder app, filling in the ip-address automatically. If it's not there now, I imagine once they make an easier way to access the internet-wide screensharing (as opposed to network only), they'll re-add the function to iChat.

I love how leopard is shaping up btw, and I can't wait to use the final version! I'm hoping there'll be a speed boost for us lowely ppc users too =( My iBook G4 could really use it.
 
MacFly123 said:
Thank you, I know that it is in Finder, but I am curious if it is still in iChat as well because in the last screen shots of the last build I saw iChat still had the button for it.
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My understanding is as of build 500, it was also still in iChat. I can easily be wrong about now though...
 
rented mule said:
Nah...if you squint your eyes, you'll read 'Location' or something like that.
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LOL or you could click on that little blue apple top left of your screen and see what it says under "dock" :p

I want leopard so bad, the new dock and menu bar is secks
 
exigentsky said:
Rarely used features like that don't belong in a context menu imo. I also don't think a "New blank text document" feature like for Windows is a good idea for the same reason. They would just clutter it up and make it less efficient for normal tasks.
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LOL... well I didnt ask for your silly opinion :confused:
Its a pretty 'normal' task for me. One lousy extra option wouldn't 'clutter' or lessen 'efficiency' at all imo.
 
akac said:
As a Windows user and a Mac user since 1992, I agree with you on "Cut" and disagree strongly on the Maximize. I hate that in Windows, though sometimes its necessary with MDI windows. Its never necessary on the Mac.
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I too miss the cut feature in Windows. I could move a file around with only one window open. In OS X, I have to have two windows of Finder running because dragging and dropping is the only method of moving a file.
 
superspiffy said:
I too miss the cut feature in Windows. I could move a file around with only one window open. In OS X, I have to have two windows of Finder running because dragging and dropping is the only method of moving a file.
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if you put the file in the dock, then apple+click drag to its new location it will move the original file. Its kinda of like using the dock as a clipboard, but just remember to press apple+click, otherwise you'll just drag it off your dock and have to start again.
 
John Dillinger said:
LOL... well I didnt ask for your silly opinion :confused:
Its a pretty 'normal' task for me. One lousy extra option wouldn't 'clutter' or lessen 'efficiency' at all imo.
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The problem comes when lots of different people want to add lots of different little options that "wouldn't 'clutter' or lessen 'efficiency' at all". Then it starts becoming a problem
 
notsofatjames said:
if you put the file in the dock, then apple+click drag to its new location it will move the original file. Its kinda of like using the dock as a clipboard, but just remember to press apple+click, otherwise you'll just drag it off your dock and have to start again.
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You can also just put it on the desktop for a sec, browse to where you want, and drag it back off the desktop.
 
aLoC said:
You can also just put it on the desktop for a sec, browse to where you want, and drag it back off the desktop.
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What about if you've got a folder action on your desktop which moves anything dropped onto the desktop to a different folder so your desktop is always kept clean? you can't use that method, which isn't very slick anyway imo.
 
You can also just grab and hold the file and use the spring loaded feature. You only need one Finder window open to do this. If its on the desktop or somewhere else, grab it and use Expose.
 
AppleMan101 said:
What about if you've got a folder action on your desktop which moves anything dropped onto the desktop to a different folder so your desktop is always kept clean?
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Well... you would have to make a choice. Do you want to use your desktop for moving files or do you want that script.
 
I'm sorry but...

Putting a virtual shelf under the icons in the dock is the work of a true GUI/graphic amature. They are trying to convey or suggest its usage, but buy doing so, they add needless and useless visual clutter to the screen. When I first saw it, the words "chome ball syndrome" came to mind. I cannot believe that someone was paid for doing work like this. If you cannot find someone to make this right--hire me.

Making the menubar transparent is also a folly because it takes more time, and more brainpower to sort out the scene visually. Making it variable from one end to the other makes finding what you want even slower.

I'm not against graphical effects in GUIs. things like shadows help the eye (the brain, really) sort out the stacking order of the windows. Dialogs and things with rounded corners often help simplify the scene by helping prevent the eye from seeing the areas around the dialog as separate sections.
 
Ovs said:
Great work Lermex. You've made this thread interesting.

It's got me thinking about the placement of the Dock. I always have my dock on the side (left). But it seems Leopard's 3D 'shelf' dock would be odd/unnatural anywhere but the bottom, (because the icons are resting on top of the shelf, if you catch my drift)

If possible, could you please post a pic with the Dock on the side. Would be interesting to see how it works.
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http://news.worldofapple.com/archives/2007/08/22/look-at-build-9a500n-of-leopard/
 
superspiffy said:
I too miss the cut feature in Windows. I could move a file around with only one window open. In OS X, I have to have two windows of Finder running because dragging and dropping is the only method of moving a file.
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I'll add one more solution to those already here:

While dragging the files, hover over any directory you want to open. After a second a highlight will blink around that folder, then Finder will open it. You can do this as many times as you want with any icon in the Finder window (both left and right panels). If you get completely lost, just drag your mouse outside the Finder window, and you'll be returned to where you started dragging.

It's a bit slow for deep paths, but acceptable for small, infrequent moves.
 
abrooks said:
http://news.worldofapple.com/archives/2007/08/22/look-at-build-9a500n-of-leopard/
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the side view really shows off the poor design of the new dock, it looks clunky and unstable like every thing is gonna fall

wish there was away to keep the clean simple tiger one, or i guess i can always use a haxie to make it invisible all together


as for the menubar, its not great, but not horrible either, just something there to be there, but i've always wanted a way to hide it while i'm working like lightroom and alot of CS3 allows you to do
 
verniesgarden said:
the side view really shows off the poor design of the new dock, it looks clunky and unstable like every thing is gonna fall
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I agree. It really looks strange on the side. I don't "mind" the new look dock on the bottom though.

I think it would be great if they updated the look of the older dock and allowed you to use this. Or allow you to change the angle of the "shelf"

I do like the new title bar though. Especially now that they added more "blurring" to it which makes the text easier to read.
 
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