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Apple Seeds Near Final OS X 10.8.2 Developer Seed Ahead of Media Event
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Having the same problem. Was working perfectly fine until the new build or the iOS 6 GM. Not sure what caused it.
You're correct, I had misunderstood the point, partly because I haven't used 'Save As' in ML (and I upgraded directly from SL) and partly because it wasn't worded well in the OP (for those of us not in the know). I agree that this is a fairly significant bugfix. Thank you for enlightening me!
Question, if I was somehow able to get hold of a copy of this. Would I then be able to update to final later?
What's more surprising still is that you don't recognize that this is not what the OP did at all.
The comparison he made was between the processes that led to the two events, not between the events themselves.
That sounds even worse.
I don't think the choice of "when do we launch a rocket to space?" and "should we sell this software in May or September?" have much to do with each other.
Or am I wrong about NASA? They leave rocket launches up to a marketing department? Is that your point?
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Wow, you still don't get it!
What part of the word "processes" don't you understand?
The two "choices" you outline above are arrived at through various *processes*...you know, stuff like evaluation, reasoning, considering a multitude of factors. All choices, from the most mundane to those that are life-and-death, still are the result of the processes that lead up to them. If the processes are careless, faulty, or otherwise lacking, you will get bad results. Those bad results may range from "Oh well, not that big a deal" to catastrophic.
That was what I got out of the original post. Sorry it flew right over your head.
You honestly think that answers the question?
Question: Why did they?
Answer: Because people decide things.
I find that highly unsatisfactory.
I don't find it nearly as unsatisfactory as you completely misapprehending the comparison that was made not just once, but twice now and then trying to direct the conversation elsewhere, hoping that we won't notice.
The guy saying "answer the original question" isn't the one misdirecting. No one has yet done that without using a metaphor, analogy, or comparison to something else.
I'm not sure why this has to be such a high-minded conversation. It's a simple question that no one can give an actual answer to, apparently.
I'm agnostic on the subject of "the original question."
My simple point is this: in response to the OP you stated "you just made a post comparing Apple's messenger software to a space shuttle exploding" when in fact, he did no such thing.
Ever since I pointed this out, you've been bobbing and weaving, rather than simply admitting that your statement is manifestly incorrect. In fact, you reinforced your misapprehension by repeating the same statement in a subsequent post.
Without reference to the specific topic itself, I would say generally that metaphors, analogies and comparisons can often be useful aids to understanding an issue.
It appears that you not only can't grasp this, you're unable to grasp the intent of a specific metaphor when it's staring you in the face even when your error is pointed out repeatedly to you.
I don't know that there's anything particularly "high-minded" about basic understanding. But it does seem that, for you, admitting that you're wrong crosses that threshold.
If it was so useful why are you still agnostic about the original question?
So you're saying it was a useful aid...it just didn't help you at all.
And yet you expect it to help me? What makes me so different from you that I should get something out of a statement that did nothing for you?
It's rather difficult holding a discussion with someone who lacks the simple ability to read the English language.
Again I must ask, what part of "Without reference to the specific topic itself" and "generally" didn't you understand? You know, the part of my statement that you quoted in your response?
What part of "agnostic" don't you understand? I don't have an opinion on, and don't particularly care about, the original question. I needn't justify this position to you.
I do, however, care about logical thinking, reasoning, comprehension, and taking responsibility for one's statements concepts that obviously are quite foreign to you.
You misunderstood, misapprehended and thus mischaracterized the OP's metaphor...and you imagine that turning all of these verbal backflips in your subsequent posts is a better course of action than simply admitting your error.
Keep right on telling yourself this....
You seem to have a problem differentiating between "this person doesn't understand me" and "this person has the opposite opinion from me."
Does that work for you in real life? You just keep berating those you disagree with until they give up and admit you're correct? Do you even admit that there can be two opinions about the same thing? That someone can like Apples and another Oranges?
Or is everything binary for you? Either black or white. 1 or 0. Something must be right and the other wrong. It's impossible for you to believe that we might both have opinions that can be held independently of facts, isn't it?
You'll of course just say I don't understand you, but isn't it interesting that while you also don't understand me, I have yet to insult you for that? The way I see it, we are both unable to see the other's point of view. Thus, whatever flaw we have, we share equally.
And I don't think that means you can't read.
Oh for goodness sake!
For anyone who still cares (and I can't imagine there could be such a person), here's a recap:
1) Small White Car: “Then why did they release it [i.e., Apple’s Messages app with known deficiencies]?"
2) Wankey: “Why did they launch the challenger even when every engineer knew there were problems?”
3) Small White Car: “What I find most surprising in all this is that you just made a post comparing Apple's messenger software to a space shuttle exploding…”
4) MikeM1988: “What's more surprising still is that you don't recognize that this is not what the OP did at all. The comparison he made was between the processes that led to the two events, not between the events themselves.”
5+) Small White Car: [Numerous subsequent posts stating anything under the sun that came to his fevered brain without acknowledging the truth of #4 and the error of #3]
This is NOT a matter of opinions, opposite or otherwise. This is a matter of fact.
If you believe my statement that "...the comparison [the OP] made was between the processes that led to the two events, not between the events themselves" is not a factual one, then tell us WHY. Give us a single shred of evidence or reasoning that supports #3 above and negates #4.
Unlike you, I supported my assertion in subsequent posts. You made your initial statement, and since then have spent the rest of your time here talking about everything except that statement, in hopes that we'll forget you ever made it.
Until you take ownership of your statement and give us something of substance to support it, you'll just be talking through your hat, as you've been doing from the beginning.
Good luck, by the way, with your "opinions that can be held independently of facts." It doesn't surprise me at all that you're a fan of this concept. There sure is a lot of that about these days.
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Meanwhile... no sign of 10.8.2 release, after those promising seeds and thoughts that it'd be "coordinated with iOS6" And my rMBP continues to suck it's battery like mad...
And my rMBP continues to suck it's battery like mad...Meanwhile... no sign of 10.8.2 release, after those promising seeds and thoughts that it'd be "coordinated with iOS6"
The last seed just went out a couple days ago. It should be very soon, maybe today along with iOS6 but if not it should be within the next few days.
i wonder how this will work with the integration of the apple id and telephone number, using the example of switching phone numbers.
lets say i am an att customer, and next year i switch to verizon. if someone else gets my old att number will i still get their messages on my mac? heck my ipad and iphone for that matter... i wonder how they will handle changing numbers.
lets say i am an att customer, and next year i switch to verizon. if someone else gets my old att number will i still get their messages on my mac? heck my ipad and iphone for that matter... i wonder how they will handle changing numbers.