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Anyone know if this update fixes issues associated with delayed wakeup from sleep? Or the obnoxious reset wallpaper after restarting issue that plagues my two rMBPs and 2009 MBP since Lion?
 
Oh I love the idea of Facebook and Apple having my phone number to associate with all my online activities, tracking everywhere I go, everything I look at, and all sharing it together! What a wonderful world they're creating for us to live in.
Please explain how knowing someones phone number permits one to track "everywhere you go, everything you look at".

Note that Apple already knows you phone number if you have an iPhone.

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I wonder how they will translate "eh" or "aboot"?
Is Canadian english really that different?
I have been in Canada for 10 years and have never heard anyone say "aboot". Even "eh" is rare and limited to certain types of people.

Canadian English is basically part British.
 
Looks like a great update. Sorting in Notes is a wonderful surprise—seemed very un-Apple this wasn't included to begin with.
Are the "Find" commands used to search inside a note still grayed out or are they functional now?
 
I have been in Canada for 10 years and have never heard anyone say "aboot". Even "eh" is rare and limited to certain types of people.

Canadian English is basically part British.

Canada is a big country. It really depends on what part of Canada you are in.
 
You don't understand. Features like that NEED time to be rolled out, just all of a sudden including it among thousands of other changes in an OS (or any software for example) can spell chaos and trouble. Add that to millions of different users in different regions of the world with thousands of different configurations and see what might happen. Improving features and adding new ones aren't necessarily (if ever) a step by step basis drawn on a map.

If Apple had released an E-Mail program that could only get email from desktops but not from phones you're telling me that you'd say it was understandable because email from tablets and phones needs to be rolled out slowly?

Why does messages get a free pass for something another program would be harshly criticized for leaving out?
 
It's annoying that Apple didn't mention battery life improvements. It's like by avoiding the issue they are refusing to admit that OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.0 and 10.8.1 have suffered decreases in battery life compared to Lion and Snow Leopard.

All .x updates have many many improvements, they don't list them all. And it's still in beta, we have no idea what release notes it will finally have when it goes to the public. It's entirely possible that it will mention battery life.

Unless you're a FB/Twitter acolyte, it seems that this update is hardly compelling (unless there are undislosed critical security updates rolled in).

Yes, there are many other undisclosed updates and fixes. It's a major update and gets 10.8 to a much more usable state. And how "compelling" does a free update have to be, would people really skip over one with this many fixes?
 
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The features they have listed do look good, and are welcome.

but my big question is: does this update fix the issues with duel screens?

Especially the one where a machine will boot to just a blue screen and hang forever until you unplug a screen and the reboot.

That is the biggest bug I have noticed with ML that I would like fixed.
 
Maybe they'll get Screen Sharing to work again???

Won't work with two computers using Mt. Lion. I had to move to my Snow Leopard Mac Pro and fire up iChat in order to do a screen sharing session with someone. All this despite the fact that my machine and remote machine both had screen sharing enabled in Sharing Preferences AND in the iMessages app. :rolleyes:
 
How was this not included until this point?

I'm struggling to understand how Apple thought that giving people 'Messages' on the Mac that didn't do this from the start was a good idea.

There's something called software engineering, study it.
 
There's something called software engineering, study it.

Did you know they worked on the iPhone for years before releasing it? That they could have put out a lame iPhone in 2006 but decided to wait until they were happy with it before selling it?

Did you know that just because you have something that doesn't obligate you to ship it?

What part of "software engineering" dictates that a company has no say over what gets shipped when? There's a part of your software engineering studies where software magically releases itself to the public? I missed that chapter.
 

That's how 'Save As' should work, saving all changes into a new document. I can see value in that (and why people are ticked that OSX doesn't offer that). I use it all the time (in Windows...at work, necessity, not choice!) But that's not what the OP states:
- An option to discard the changes in the original document when choosing Save As
That reads to me like you make a whole bunch of changes, select 'Save As' and it discards those changes. And that's not what I can see a point in.
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Yes, there are many other undisclosed updates and fixes. It's a major update and gets 10.8 to a much more usable state. And how "compelling" does a free update have to be, would people really skip over one with this many fixes?
My point was that none of the changes in the OP, as reported in the OP, were compelling. Stability? Security? Groovy! But where's the info to back up your claim? The 'fixes' seem to be for things that really don't mean much (to me, at least).

Now, if they fixed the bug in Safari that means the scrollbar disappears when you stop scrolling, that would be compelling. I use the scrollbar to judge how far I am in a document.

And none of this means that I won't update, it's just that I don't see what's exciting about it.
 
Did you know they worked on the iPhone for years before releasing it? That they could have put out a lame iPhone in 2006 but decided to wait until they were happy with it before selling it?

Did you know that just because you have something that doesn't obligate you to ship it?

What part of "software engineering" dictates that a company has no say over what gets shipped when? There's a part of your software engineering studies where software magically releases itself to the public? I missed that chapter.

What are you even talking about? Again, you're not an engineer from the tone of your voice. So I don't have much to educate you in, it's far too complicated to start from scratch you tell you how things are done.

There are a thousand things that have to work properly for messages to go from phone to PC. That part simply might not be working on release.
 
That's how 'Save As' should work, saving all changes into a new document. I can see value in that (and why people are ticked that OSX doesn't offer that). I use it all the time (in Windows...at work, necessity, not choice!) But that's not what the OP states:

That reads to me like you make a whole bunch of changes, select 'Save As' and it discards those changes. And that's not what I can see a point in.

You've misunderstood the point.

If you open an existing file (say a template), make some changes and then 'save as' a new file OSx 10.8.1 saves the changes to the new file. Great. But it also saves the changes TO THE OLD FILE AS WELL. So your template original now has entries all over it, which you then have to open up again and discard the changes using versions.

The change is that you can now just close the document, and it will ask you if you want to save the changes to the original template. Which you probably don't.

Which is a very significant improvement.
 
Then why did they release it?

What's the "engineer" answer for that since, you're right, I'm not an engineer.

Why did they launch the challenger even when every engineer knew there were problems?

You really need me to answer your question?
 
Can anyone verify if the calendar snooze options in 10.8.2 have been restored to a pre-mountain lion version? Thanks.

This is my only major complaint about Mountain Lion, as it makes my Calendar notifications practically useless. Why aren't more people complaining about this?
 
Why did they launch the challenger even when every engineer knew there were problems?

You really need me to answer your question?

What I find most surprising in all this is that you just made a post comparing Apple's messenger software to a space shuttle exploding and someone out there 'liked' it.
 
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