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Apple Seeds OS X Mavericks 10.9.1 Beta to Developers

DavidRavenMoon said:
First off Apple doesn't make Photoshop.

But what's wrong with it? I have no problems with either CS 6 or CC in Mavericks.

I use it every day.
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No Apple doesn't make Photoshop but Photoshop worked in ML and doesn't work well in Mavericks, so Apple did something that caused Photoshop to not work. I don't know whose fault is it but it could easily be Apple's fault.

Problems are the following:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1320946
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photo...rtcuts_not_responding_photoshop_cs6_mavericks
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5797730#5797730
 
Apple u need to fix the finder quick smart ! The Finder crashes multiple times a day. Still happens after the 10.9.1 Beta on my test mac

Only way to fix this is to reboot the dam thing
 

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LukasValine said:
Anyone else want iOS 7 style fonts and icons in OSX? It doesn't have to be a major redesign, just some minor changes to make the two interfaces more consistent.
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For heaven's sake NO!

Most of us don't have Retina displays to be able to read such a thin font, and some of us don't want neon colours and all white interfaces!

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Please, please fix fullscreen windows getting all grey and some windows resize and falling off screen!
 
25ghosts said:
I have no idea where this is going... Mavericks is a huge mess. Huge. Nothing really works. Especially Apple's own apps. FCPx, Logic Pro, Mail, Safari etc are all causing the console to throw 'LOG MESSAGE QUOTA EXCEEDE' - to those who don't know, that means LOTs of errors. The Graphic Drivers are out of whack.... completely. And while the Apple Team makes videos about how GREAT everything works, all their users are reaching high levels of frustration....

The OS X, I once knew is totally gone and reminds me of something Microsoft would have released 4 years ago. Sad times for Apple users, indeed. Steve's gone and so is S. Forestall...

Wow
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I'm not having any of those issues, though I was very disappointed in the direction Apple took with iWork. However, that doesn't mean that other people like you aren't having legitimate problems that may be OS-related. There have been issues with every prior OS release, and Apple will hopefully correct the major ones over time. It's often better to wait until the 2nd or 3rd iteration before upgrading, though I never seem to take that advice myself.

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jlc1978 said:
Same here. Sometimes I wind up restarting Finder to fix the issue.

Also - fix Exchange. I never had an issue and now Mail fails to get push mail (I have set it to check every minute) and Calendar whines about it being unable to synch with the server; problems I did not have under ML.
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I've had problems with Exchange and Mail for the past couple of Mac OS X releases, mostly message bodies not appearing unless I quit and restart the app. I tried switching to Outlook for email, but hated the UI. You'd think this would be something that Apple would be capable of/interested in fixing.
 
baryon said:
No Apple doesn't make Photoshop but Photoshop worked in ML and doesn't work well in Mavericks, so Apple did something that caused Photoshop to not work. I don't know whose fault is it but it could easily be Apple's fault.

Problems are the following:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1320946
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photo...rtcuts_not_responding_photoshop_cs6_mavericks
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5797730#5797730
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Mavericks had a fair number of under-the-hood changes, for sure, so likely that some combination of those is causing the issues you are seeing (as of now, I'm not seeing any issue with Photoshop on my 3 machines, thankfully). On the other hand, Adobe had a fair amount of lead time to work with Mavericks pre-release so they've obviously got a hand in this too.

Right now I've got an issue with one of the Nik plugins that is either from a recent Google update, the Mavericks update, or the Aperture update, since all three were released at roughly the same time. I'm getting the "It's Google, It's Apple" from the respective companies, so I can understand your frustration ;)
 
gamesetmatch said:
I wish the update would bring in:

- A fix for new mail sound. With the "new message sound" enabled, there is a significant delay between receiving the e-mail and the sound being played. Sometimes I think I've received a message when I actually have not.

- Better iMessage synchronization between Mavericks and iOS 7.0.4. Messy.

- FINDER FINDER FINDER: I wonder why it became so slow. Opening up a folder for the first time takes more than *20* seconds!

- DOCK: I find also a significant delay when opening up a stack for the first time.

- Preview should prompt us to save a file when we make any modifications.

All the best,
^MPY
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All of the above... Might be minor, but they are pretty much my biggest annoyances...
 
25ghosts said:
I did a clean install on 4 of my Macs. All acting identically. I went to the Apple Store and there too I could repro. the problems I am having. The store clerk, standing next to me said 'Yes, there are a known quantity of Maverick Problems, being worked on' ---
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Well, maybe it's the "clean install" that is your problem. That does seem to be the difference between your system and my (and others) system and you admitted to doing it to every one of your four computers you updated. You never even apparently tried the proper install method. Mavericks is not meant by Apple to be clean installed by the user. It's designed to be installed from the App Store. You bypassed the PROPER upgrade method and so I have to wonder why you have problems that none of the rest of us seem to have and thus that clean install would be my first suspicion offhand.

Yes, it's possible to do a clean install of Mavericks, but it's not meant to be installed that way and requires jumping through several hoops and/or using a program to create a bootable install disk and a bug in a helper program or a misstep could alter something that is crucial to proper operation. My point is that you may have very well inadvertently CREATED the problem that is plaguing your computers with Mavericks. The fact the problem has happened on every one of your computers that were all installed "clean" and has happened on NONE of the computers here that were installed using the App Store tells me something went horribly wrong with your "clean" install. Something is obviously missing or mis-configured in your setup because Mavericks works FINE for the rest of us. I suggest restoring Mountain Lion or whatever previous version of OSX you had and using the App Store to upgrade.

This idea that OSX works "better" with a clean install is a MYTH, IMO. I've never used a clean install except on a Hackintosh and I've NEVER had any bizarre OS issues like you're describing and I started with Panther. Heck, most UNIX systems don't even normally need to reboot for most OS changes. It's a library system and so things can be removed and replaced hot quite easily. "Clean" installs are for crappy operating systems like Windows and they're also a ROYAL PAIN IN THE KEISTOR since you have to re-configure and install all your software all over again. No thanks.

Now maybe that is not the cause of your problems with Mavericks, but four machines is a heck of a lot to malfunction when the rest of us aren't having issues. I've updated two machines of mine including one from 2008 and I've had NO such issues what-so-ever. But I used the App Store. In fact, the 2008 machine started with Leopard, then Snow Leopard, then Mountain Lion and now Mavericks and it doesn't even have the mouse wake from sleep issue the 2012 Mac Mini has with Mavericks. I would seriously try a normal install of Mavericks from the App Store before whining that it's Apple's fault you did a clean install Mavericks wasn't designed for the end user to do. It's quite possible something went wrong with whatever method you used to create the boot disk. It would only require a single library or other important file to wreak havoc if they aren't in the right place or missing.
 
9000 said:
That's YouTube's job. I am furious that they wrecked the comment system. People are spamming these all over:

░░░░░███████ ]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ Bob is building an army.
▂▄▅█████████▅▄▃▂ ☻/︻╦╤─ This tank & Bob are against Google+
Il███████████████████]. /▌ Copy and Paste this all over
◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤.. / \ YouTube if you are with us
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I know, I was joking.
 
photoshop working prfect here since dp1. My only concern with mavericks is that it doesn't suppor properly my macbook 2009 graphics card with an external monitor; when the external monitor goes to sleep, when it wakes it changed the resolution to a lower one. Not fixed in 10.9.1
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
Well, maybe it's the "clean install" that is your problem. ...... Mavericks is not meant by Apple to be clean installed by the user. It's designed to be installed from the App Store. You bypassed the PROPER upgrade method and so I have to wonder why you have problems that none of the rest of us seem to have and thus that clean install would be my first suspicion offhand.
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This may be the first time I've ever heard anyone suggest a clean install was the source of an issue..... :eek:

I do agree that, somewhere in the creation of the bootable USB stick, something could have gotten corrupted and is the source of the OP's problems.

25Ghosts: How about, since Mav is already on the machines, use the restore partition [assuming the process you used to create the bootable USB stick resulted in a restore partition] to perform a new clean install on one of your machines [i.e. - use disk utility from the restore partition towipe your boot drive, and reinstall Mav from the restore partition], as a test. See if your problems disappear on that machine. I know it's a PITA to do but at least you will know if it's something corrupted in your install USB.
 
EdwardC said:
I can't close out of mail with out having to force quit? I was wondering if anyone else is having this issue?
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I had that issue, but the mail update for mavericks 1.0 fixed that for me...

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Snookerman said:
Please fix YouTube comments.
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LOL. I'm milliseconds into firing off a flame when I realized, this is just hilarious old skool flame bait. While they're at it, fix the security hole in Safari that allows Google to circumvent their security....oh right, that was also Google just being a virus...

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R3k said:
+1

Tags are nothing new, just a castrated version of a feature they had before.
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How can you say that!?! Tags are much better than labels and, by the way, have you noticed your tags sync over iCloud? Tags are the future (some would say it started and finished already in the past, *cough* blogs *cough*) of how we work with documents and objects. Apple didn't invent them, but they are putting the concept to good use in Mavericks.
 
My Problems with Mavericks.

MacBook Pro early 2008 Problems Flickering display and shutdown loops. I may go back to Snow Leopard.
 
madrich said:
MacBook Pro early 2008 Problems Flickering display and shutdown loops. I may go back to Snow Leopard.
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Sounds like you're having the Nvidia GPU failure common to those models, not a software problem.
 
Retep523 said:
You get what you pay for. I agree. Mavericks is terrible.
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I don't get these comments. It WIPES THE FLOOR with Snow Leopard. Multiple monitors are actually USABLE now. OpenGL is no longer stuck in the 20th century (still not as up to date as it should be, but only a couple of years behind now instead of a half decade). I haven't had a single crash here yet on either my 2008 MBP or my 2012 Mac mini and I installed it on both the first day it was out. And the Mini is on 24/7. I can play games on the other side of the house with Airplay + a Playstation 3 Bluetooth controller. I just finished The Cave on Steam on my 47" plasma in the living room like I had a console on and the Mac Mini was powering it in the den sending it to AppleTV. Snow Leopard couldn't do that. Terrible? Try freaking awesome.
 
Mavericks graphics issue - hoping 10.9.1 addresses it!

This MacRumors article says that 10.9.1 is supposed to address graphics issues.

Here is an issue that I've had, and there are several threads going on Apple's discussion boards about it.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5493333?start=0&tstart=0

I hope 10.9.1 is for us!

(PS - My own Mavericks experience is that font-rendering is much improved, the machine is faster, and battery life is better. I have a mid-2010 15" MacBook Pro. It's too bad that many of the people posting in this forum have gripes about Mavericks - and that so many of the gripes are totally off-topic. It reminds me of the people who post illiterate responses to political articles online. )
 
Hi,

I've recently found yet another Mavericks issue on my 2011 15", though at least this one's just cosmetic: when waking from sleep, the screen has a weird shadowed rectangle, overlying other content, which after maybe 5 to 10 seconds (yeah, it's really slow!), eventually turns into the Safari window which was in the foreground when I put it to sleep. It looks like the shadow's drawn straight away, and the Safari window takes a long time to appear. Pretty stupid, and it wasn't slow like that in 10.6.

Cheers.
 
Mail still crashes...

:(I installed Version 7.0 (1822), but if I open the "trash" folder and then try to search for any word, the app. crashes immediately.
 
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