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Apple Seeds OS X Mavericks 10.9.2 Build 13C39 to Developers

Kobayagi said:
To be honest, my nephew has a MacBook Pro and when I compare it's speed vs mine Air, my Air is much faster.

We both got the base 13'' 2011 model. Only difference is, his model is indeed clocked at 2,3 ghz with a i5 and mine is at 1,7 ghz i5. We both have 4 gb of ram. But mine does have a SSD. And with all basic tasks, my Air performs much better.
Maybe the 2,3 ghz would help with rendering a video for example. But other than that, I see no advantages to a Pro with similar specs.

But we were talking about usb and peripherals, and it seems, the Pro is nothing more "Pro'' at that departement. :p

I only wish I had chosen the 8 gb ram option when purchasing. Because now, I'm stuck at 4gb. Which is ok, but sometimes especially when I use Final Cut, I wish it had a bit more power to work with.

Other than that, don't think low of the Air, it's really just a better looking Pro. :p
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Yeah, I understand where you are coming from. I personally went with a mid 2012 non-Retina MBP because it did not have an SSD. I wanted the flexibility. If you had Mountain Lion before Mavericks. You might see a bigger delay or lag in Mavericks. According to Apple, Mavericks was designed to use more RAM I can see that, too. My laptop is a lot quieter under Mavericks because more RAM is being used. Under Mountain Lion, sometimes I had to open iPhoto just to quiet things down.
 
Is there any Wireless fixes in this build?

I & many others are having a real issue where wake from sleep causes Wi-Fi scanning not to occur & first connectivity to time-out.

The fix above will work - but disables a lot of features!?

C'mon Apple..
 
rexone said:
Here's hoping that Apple is paying attention to all the p***ed off users who are howling about them pointlessly removing things like 'Open Folder In New Window' as an option and the ability to tag folders & files with coloured lablels (not near-invisible dots) and they reinstate these long-standing features in one of the updates.
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Open in new window: right click, press option click the open in new tab option which changes to open in new window when you press option.
 
Has anyone tested if the graphics drivers in 10.9.2 are any faster?

mschmalenbach said:
Since updating to 10.9.1 on my 8Gb RAM 500Gb HD (with 156Gb free) Mid 2010 13" MBP I've been having flashback to my old window days - keyboard response slowing to a crawl, CPU going to 90+% for no apparent reason, various apps (mostly MS Office 2011) appearing to hang, showing as unresponsive, only to become responsive again 3-4 minutes later. Video & screen animations are a bit choppy at times.

If I'd wanted a PC experience I'd have saved myself $1200 and bought a $300 Windows laptop...

10.9.0 was OK for me. I'm hoping 10.9.2 at least gets me back to square 1...
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Have you done/tried to do a clean install? ( http://osxdaily.com/2013/10/26/clean-install-os-x-mavericks/ )

My daughters MBP (matching the specs of yours) works flawlessly.
So does all our other MBPs running Mavericks. And all had a clean install.
 
alexgowers said:
Since apple broke all usb audio devices with 10.9.1 i've been running the betas of 10.9.2 just to get it all working again and it still doesn't do it right yet.

Auto update from 10.9.0 was such a bad idea considering there is no real way to roll back the update.
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USB audio is working fine for me on 10.9.0 10.9.1 and the latest 10.9.2 beta. It is connected to a hub which is connected to a thunderbolt display which in turn is connect via thunderbolt to my rMBP. It always works smooth and never drops anything.
 
szw-mapple fan said:
Totally agree. Now, if Apple could just smooth out the tiny bugs that's driving me crazy...:D
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Entirely agree, totally. :D
See my post here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1697588/
In short, with the advent of 10.9.2 2nd beta release (not sure about 1st), pmset -g shows;
sleep 0 (sleep prevented by AddressBookSour)

AddressBookSour seems to be an abbreviation for AddressBookSourceSync. A Google search turned up a suggestion to reset the iCloud settings. I have never even used or set that up, but after trying it, and signing out immediately, that "sleep prevented" msg disappeared.
The error message reappears after you sign out.
/Start rant
Apple really has dropped the ball on this one. Not everyone even wants iCloud enabled! And linking such basic functions as sleep on a MBP to iCloud is beyond ridiculous. /end rant
The same issue appeared on my Mac mini, but sleep still works, on both machines, despite the warning shown by pmset -g.
pesky little gremlins....:eek::apple::eek:
 
Can anyone comment on whether Quicklook has returned to being Quick? I'm so sick of beach balls when trying to look at a jpg file on 10.9.1
 
Latest beta still seems to have issue with wifi timing out, especially from sleep.

Mac Mail and Exchange is better but still an issue.

10.9.2 fixes a lot of bugs and is much smoother in all ways, boot times, shutdown times, overall performance.
 
Does this fix the menu bar issue on an additional monitor?

If I go full screen on my external display I often get a gray bar where the menu bar would be if I was not in full screen...
 
BillyTrimble said:
Have to agree with this one. Both of those changes in Mavericks is a real step backward. Sometimes I think that Jonny Ives is a bit too much consumed with himself and has a bit too much power at Apple. He needs to come back to mother Earth.
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Apple routinely takes out and adds features during betas. That's actually what betas are for, or rather, that is one use of them. Doubt that they're going to take out those two in the end.
 
Are there any developers (on a MacBook Pro 15" Late 2013) who can confirm the Thunderbolt 2 port now supports 3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz? :confused:
 
DP 1.2 Support of Late 2013 15" MBPr's!

rainbowsofwhite said:
MacBook Pro Retina 15" (Late 2013) NVIDIA Driver Update Please!

I've got my fingers crossed for an updated NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M driver to support 3840 x 2160 (60MHz) monitors via the Thunderbolt 2 port.

Update: I think what is also required is to have support for DisplayPort 1.2’s Multi-Stream Transport (MST) enabled.
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I too vote on this... There is an Apple support discussion on this with over 20,000 views and hundreds of comments here. Hopefully they wised up and listened! I know I'm pissed!

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rainbowsofwhite said:
Are there any developers (on a MacBook Pro 15" Late 2013) who can confirm the Thunderbolt 2 port now supports 3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz? :confused:
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Yeah? Where are u guys?
 
Onmybikedrunk said:
I too vote on this... There is an Apple support discussion on this with over 20,000 views and hundreds of comments here. Hopefully they wised up and listened! I know I'm pissed!

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Yeah? Where are u guys?
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Thanks for the link! ...I agree, this is very frustrating.
I'm disappointed with Apple.
 
rainbowsofwhite said:
Thanks for the link! ...I agree, this is very frustrating.
I'm disappointed with Apple.
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So get this, I called customer service and got escalated to a sales manager and convinced them to let me return my maxed out Late 2013 MBPr based on the fact Apple's advertising mislead consumers to think they would get 4K support at normal (60) fps. It took a bit of work and about an hour on the phone and a LOT of sources, but they finally agreed to a full refund. Sending it back later this week. Oh and I bought they week they were released.
 
Onmybikedrunk said:
So get this, I called customer service and got escalated to a sales manager and convinced them to let me return my maxed out Late 2013 MBPr based on the fact Apple's advertising mislead consumers to think they would get 4K support at normal (60) fps. It took a bit of work and about an hour on the phone and a LOT of sources, but they finally agreed to a full refund. Sending it back later this week. Oh and I bought they week they were released.
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Wow, that's amazing...(and a bit extreme for me)

I thought about doing that, but I don't want to spend ALL THAT EXTRA MONEY on something that won't really benefit me.
I'm not a video editor. I do some Cinema 4D work, Aperture work, Photoshop/Illustrator etc, but it's not that really processor intensive.

I just want my new Apple Thunderbolt 2 Display for goodness sake!! Apple can you hear me?!
No one wants your old 2011 Display!!

Otherwise I'm going to have to do something I've never done before and purchase the NEW LG Ultra Wide (LG 29UM95) Thunderbolt 2 display.

Imagine that, someone else coming out with Thunderbolt 2 before Apple? Go figure?
 
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Onmybikedrunk said:
So get this, I called customer service and got escalated to a sales manager and convinced them to let me return my maxed out Late 2013 MBPr based on the fact Apple's advertising mislead consumers to think they would get 4K support at normal (60) fps. It took a bit of work and about an hour on the phone and a LOT of sources, but they finally agreed to a full refund. Sending it back later this week. Oh and I bought they week they were released.
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Hmmm, I must have missed that part of advertising. Is there somewhere you can reference that Apple said the rMBP showed video output of 4k @ 60fps, I've been paying fairly close attention to laptops that could/would output 4k and I wasn't aware that their laptop were supposed to at some point.
 
mmomega said:
Hmmm, I must have missed that part of advertising. Is there somewhere you can reference that Apple said the rMBP showed video output of 4k @ 60fps, I've been paying fairly close attention to laptops that could/would output 4k and I wasn't aware that their laptop were supposed to at some point.
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I don't think they actually mention 60Hz, but I found this on the Thunderbolt 2 Page.

"Now with Thunderbolt 2 built into the new Mac Pro and MacBook Pro with Retina display, you can connect the latest 4K desktop displays and get double the bandwidth for your peripherals"
http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/

..that's funny, because there aren't any 4K Thunderbolt 2 displays!

"Thunderbolt 2 gives you access to the latest 4K monitors."
"And because Thunderbolt is based on DisplayPort technology, it provides native support for the Apple Thunderbolt Display and Mini DisplayPort displays."

So what if the native refresh rate of a monitor using Mini DisplayPort is 60Hz, bad luck for MacBook Pro Retina (Late 2013) users.
 
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