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Apple Seeds OS X Yosemite 10.10.2 Build 14C81f to Developers

Michael Goff said:
Wow. I'm glad you're not in charge. Five years with little change made? Progress? Who needs that when we can just go with the same crap for long periods of time.

As for your timeline, I don't know what you consider basic things. I picked up ML on day one, and Mavericks as well. I even used Yosemite until I handed my Air over to my sister. It worked for me.
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Agreed.

XP was used for so long, not because it was any good, just that the alternative, (Vista) was utter crap and also broke IE6 apps (something 7 and 8 also do). So many businesses had come to depend on IE6 apps that it took MS ending updates to force upgrading. Businesses didn't want to spend the money redeveloping the apps, then taking employees through the upgrade cycle to 7 or 8.

I have no issue with a 2 year upgrade path. That worked well enough, and keeps the OS fresh.
 
No mention worthy problems with Yosemite here

Well, once the iMessage app stalled so I had to force quit it, but that's it. Things are running smoothly for me and also on my the MacBook Pro (Mid 2012), and there hasn't been any wifi issues with that either. I'd say it's at least fast as Mavericks, if not even faster when having a lot of apps running.

Strange that people's experience of the same OS can be so different. Or perhaps not, it's complex stuff and there are many factors that could trigger different behaviour.
 
WindowServer crashes, broken BTMM, broken Wifi,....
Yosemite is not production quality software. It's beta at best.

Apple is at a low point in terms of software quality. I've now learned the hard way that from now on I delay OS upgrades for 6-12 months.
 
It's the lag that is the biggest issue. Yosemite is just slow as a snail and they should give us a choice on how we want the icons, re-size buttons, etc to look. I would go back to the old UI in a heartbeat, especially for safari which Ivy has completely destroyed.
Maybe if Cook spent less time polarizing people with his political chicanery and focused more on company business Apple would be more responsive to it's issues.
 
bakron1 said:
I have not been able to do a time machine backup since upgrading to Yosemite from Mavericks.

I have also have major issues with my MS Office for 2011 crashing regularly since the Yosemite update.

I never had any of these issues when running Mavericks and I am not a happy camper at the moment.

How could Apple release Yosemite to the public with such a major bug such as the time machine backup issue????
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Its full of crap;
Time Machine - complete and utterly untested rewrite; wiped ALL my backups first time it ran in Yosemite, lots of other bugs that I've posted in other threads and reported that Crap=Apple hasn't fixed
10.10.1 - thinks my mini has ambient light sensors so from time to time the screen flashes on and off enough to give some people a fit

How about this message from System Preferences?
13/12/2014 18:22:42.524 com.apple.preference.universalaccess.remoteservice[1656]: CGContextRestoreGState: invalid context 0x0. This is a serious error. This application, or a library it uses, is using an invalid context and is thereby contributing to an overall degradation of system stability and reliability. This notice is a courtesy: please fix this problem. It will become a fatal error in an upcoming update.

What utter.... supply your own keyword

I've fired people for less.
 
The new Apple

I likely am going back to Microsoft when Windows 10 and Surface 5 or 6 emerge. The new Apple has become The Adult Toy Company, albeit the wealthiest in the world. It is no longer a computer company.

King Steve Jobs is dead. Long live the new King! Who the hell is he? The Chief Accountant?
 
justperry said:
Put it a sleep, when I hit any key the light on my Cinema Display lights up, but the screen will stay black.
I can see the display lights up a tiny bit, but no UI.
I know the computer works, if I hit some keys I get audible feedback, there is just no video output.
I am by no means the only one, this though is the first time I have this since the very first OS X 10.0b.
But, Sleep/wake issues is fairly common in OS X history, heck even before OS X.
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Interesting, . . . I had that same issue with Lion on my old Macbook 4,1. I wonder if this has something to do with the kexts because I replaced them with the ones from Snow Leopard and it worked again.
 
Michael Goff said:
Wow. I'm glad you're not in charge. Five years with little change made? Progress? Who needs that when we can just go with the same crap for long periods of time.

As for your timeline, I don't know what you consider basic things. I picked up ML on day one, and Mavericks as well. I even used Yosemite until I handed my Air over to my sister. It worked for me.
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I'm sure the majority of people won't run into issues because that's what Beta testing ensures. However, it really seems to me that more people are having issues than normal. WiFi issues with every release, performance issues, etc. Sure, it's a new OS, bugs are to be expected. However, a new OS every year means more bugs for more time. The OS spends less time being mature.

I'm not saying that a 5 year old OS is great, but sometimes a more mature product that lacks features but is robust and has almost no bugs is better than a modern OS that is full of bugs and instability issues, and by the time they do get fixed a new OS comes out with the same damn bugs again.

For example: In Lion and Mountain Lion, Photoshop had this bug that caused mouse clicks to get stuck. This was caused by some mouse event handler in OS X. In Mavericks, this issue was fixed, at last. In Yosemite, it's back again. Same thing with gestures not always working, scrolling not always working, and a bunch of small things that piss me off but many people won't even notice.

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RobFog said:
You shouldn’t be early-adopting, it’s as simple as that.
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But OS X is now releasing a new version every year. What counts are "early adopting"? It's now mid December, Yosemite was released 2 months ago, that's almost 20% of the release cycle. Should we wait for the OS to be halfway into its lifecycle to upgrade? Or should we wait for OS X 10.11 to be out to even upgrade to 10.10? It no longer makes any sense. OS X is now never in a state of matureness, it's always buggy and never fixed because by the time it's fixed a new immature and buggy OS is released that does pretty much nothing new other than be buggy as hell. Mavericks was basically the undoing of the crap that Lion and Mountain Lion brought in, so we could have just stayed with Snow Leopard until then.

A new feature in Mavericks was that Calendar was once again almost exactly like in Snow Leopard and everyone clapped and cheered.

People complained about Lion being horrible in terms of design and behaviour, and it took Apple 2 years to fix those. People did not complain about Snow Leopard. Wouldn't it have been easier to just not release Lion and Mountain Lion, let Snow Leopard hang around for 3 years and then release Mavericks? Then no one would have complained about how crap Lion and ML were.
 
RaceTripper said:
WindowServer crashes, broken BTMM, broken Wifi,....
Yosemite is not production quality software. It's beta at best.

Apple is at a low point in terms of software quality. I've now learned the hard way that from now on I delay OS upgrades for 6-12 months.
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I don't know how you come to this conclusion. Yosemite works fine here and this is also the feedback I get from all of my customers that are running it.
 
baryon said:
But OS X is now releasing a new version every year. What counts are "early adopting"? It's now mid December, Yosemite was released 2 months ago, that's almost 20% of the release cycle. Should we wait for the OS to be halfway into its lifecycle to upgrade? Or should we wait for OS X 10.11 to be out to even upgrade to 10.10? It no longer makes any sense. OS X is now never in a state of matureness, it's always buggy and never fixed because by the time it's fixed a new immature and buggy OS is released that does pretty much nothing new other than be buggy as hell. Mavericks was basically the undoing of the crap that Lion and Mountain Lion brought in, so we could have just stayed with Snow Leopard until then.

A new feature in Mavericks was that Calendar was once again almost exactly like in Snow Leopard and everyone clapped and cheered.

People complained about Lion being horrible in terms of design and behaviour, and it took Apple 2 years to fix those. People did not complain about Snow Leopard. Wouldn't it have been easier to just not release Lion and Mountain Lion, let Snow Leopard hang around for 3 years and then release Mavericks? Then no one would have complained about how crap Lion and ML were.
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I understand where you’re coming from. But if I were you I’d simply stick with Mavericks for the time being if you don’t consider Yosemite stable enough which, however, does seem to be stable enough for a lot of people.

I do think 10.9.5 is widely considered mature. In fact, I don’t intend to update to Yosemite just yet on this mid-2009 MacBook Pro without an SSD.
 
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petvas said:
I don't know how you come to this conclusion. Yosemite works fine here and this is also the feedback I get from all of my customers that are running it.
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I've been a Mac user since 1986. I use my Macs full time as a software engineer. I know how to trouble shoot user error, and figure out workarounds.

IMHO, Apple software quality is at a low I haven't seen in many years. When Steve Jobs died he took the Reality Disruption Field with him. That's where "It just works" lived. That is history. Now, it just doesn't work.

I used BTTM quite a bit to remote desktop from my MBP at work to my Mini at home. That's no longer possible.
 
Hope this prevents graphic card freezing my rMBP

My 15" rMBP from 2012 occasionally freeze so I have to power off and on again. When it comes back up a dialog box says there was an issue with the graphic card and ask if it can be submitted to Apple and I click OK.

It may have something to do with hardware acceleration in the browser, so I have disabled it in chrome which I use when a site requires flash. If my laptop is stable I'll enable HW-acceleration again and see.

I haven't installed flash from adobe.

The WiFi issue is partially resolved for my part since 10.10.1 beta1. I connect to an older apple extreme from 2009?? Well, a dinosaur in our time.

regards
Claus
 
SlCKB0Y said:
Say what you will about XP, but in 2001 when it released it was far superior to OS X at the time....
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I didn't even mention OS X. If you notice I was comparing XP to its successor, Vista.

I will bring OS X into it now. By 2003 OS X (Panther) had caught up with and overtaken XP. Windows has been playing catch up since.
 
I found a little bug in spotlight when doing calculations, the sum doesn't appear and you have to type in extra numbers and remove them again to get the sum.

Submitted to Apple

Other than that, working fine on my Retina
 
Wow - thats great news.

Gator Bob said:
I likely am going back to Microsoft when Windows 10 and Surface 5 or 6 emerge. The new Apple has become The Adult Toy Company, albeit the wealthiest in the world. It is no longer a computer company.

King Steve Jobs is dead. Long live the new King! Who the hell is he? The Chief Accountant?
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See ya - one less whiner on this forum.
 
This update resolves an odd and minor Safari issue I'd reported. From my perspective I'd call it progress.

The oddities folks report with Yosemite are strange from my perspective. This OS has been pretty faultless on my heavily-used and well-traveled rMBP. Not that I doubt the reports, but it's at least possible that Yosemite will come to work as brilliantly for others once some of the mysteries are figured-out.

At least no one can argue that Yosemite was just a buff-and-gloss update. There were clearly some very deep transformations going on under the hood. I expect that will continue in future releases, not least because I expect a changeover to a more modern file system within the next two major releases. That will be a worthwhile transition... and probably glitchy too.
 
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