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People who are paranoid don't know they are paranoid.

I used to work in cloud computing, which is essentially iCloud. I'll put it like this, deleting a customers data no matter what tier they were on is illegal, it would cost me my job, and the company I worked for would have been sued.

Did I have the ability to look at customers data? Yes.
Did I care to look at customer's data? No

My job was to protect the data that the customers placed on our servers. I so busy with installing updates and patches, and restoring files and folders that I wouldn't have had time to go through customers data even if I had wanted to.

With that being said, your concerns are valid concerns for someone who doesn't know anything about business ethics in cloud computing, but I'll just say you don't need to be concerned about who's trying to peak at your data. People who work in cloud computing care about the content of your data about as much as you care about what movies I have on VHS. All that is important to them is that the data is there until your remove it.

Your desire to look at people's data is irrelevant. That the data is there and is unencrypted is the death knell for cloud vendors. If it's in the so-called cloud then it absolutely has to be encrypted from prying eyes of today or some AI in the future. A company's ethics are not worth anything. Purely PR fluff. All that matter is whether the data can be accessed with a court subpoena.
 
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Good to know that someone got the same issue. Mine wont work either, earlier I had the option to check mark to enable it, but suddenly it is gone. Running an late 2013 Macbook Pro.
So I re paired the watch now and the check mark is back but Bluetooth is intermittent. Sometimes it shows that my Mac is connected (the three dots over the Bluetooth logo) but it doesn't stay for very long. Still haven't been able to unlock my Mac. I'm using a 2016 MacBook.
 
That feature has been there
You can now print tracklists on iTunes.

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That feature has been there since the Rip. Mix. Burn. period of iTunes. You know, when people actually burnt CDs. Surprised to see it's still there to be honest.
 
Same exact thing happened to me, I tried every which way to fix it and couldn't. So I downloaded beta 1 again and it fixed it.
You can also fix it by deleting /var/folders/zz which appears to be a cache folder for the app store. That is how i fixed it
 
How did you do it? I still cannot figure it out :/

First I removed two-step verification from my account via appleid.apple.com. Then I went into iCloud settings on my iPhone and enabled two-factor authentication from there.

After this step my MacBook Pro didn't recognize my Watch being in range so I made an iCloud backup, unpaired, then paired my Watch back to my phone. After this and after signing back into all of my accounts on my MacBook and iPhone my Mac finally recognized it.

Also, it seems to work better then you actually touch the watch to the body of the MacBook? Not sure but that's how ive done it.
 
I'm not paranoid ;) I screwed up and allowed Apple to iCloud my "photo stream". That quickly came to a head as I ran out of "free storage". So I turned it off.

Don't wish to repeat the other thread - but I have no paranoia about others "lurking" through my stuff. My concern is that I no longer OWN MY STUFF. Apple does. Not a copyright - but the right to delete the data I CREATED across all my devices once I turn iCloud OFF. It appears to be very punitive and designed to scare most users into buying more iStorage for fear of losing their "stuff".

Please - take a tour of iCloud.com. Find the "Download All" button. It's not there.

So, you turn off iCloud - Apple gives you 30 days to reclaim any data you've stored on iCloud, which you must recover piecemeal from iCloud.com. FUN!!!!!

I seriously may not upgrade to this OS. And I'm hoping possibly OTHERS might be hesitant to allow their favoritest bestest beloved corporation ever to TAKE OWNERSHIP of THEIR data.

I don't see how I'm being paranoid or crazy or theorizing any conspiracy. iCloud is iCloud. The gurus have confirmed the TOS. Allow it to invade your computer and... good luck with ever wishing to GET OUT.

Repeat. iCloud - All Your File Are Belong to Us. Rinse, wash, repeat again.

Two points:

1. IF you elect to store your macOS Sierra files in iCloud, the only files stored there will be the contents of your My Documents and Desktop folders. You are free to keep data you don't want Apple near in any other folder.

2. IF you subsequently wish to "take back" your files from Apple, simply drag My Documents and Desktop folders from iCloud Drive back to your home folder.

Poof! The files will be copied to your hard drive in one step allowing you to reclaim your files .. and your sovereignty over your data.
 
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Mine didn't work either. It gave me an error that it couldn't communicate with the watch and now the check mark to enable it is gone. Restarted all my devices and no luck. Un pairing watch now. Maybe that will make it work again.

You may need to Reset Network
I ended up deleting /var/folders/zz which is the cache for the App Store I'm guessing. Problem solved.

Great! These kinds of errors may appear sometimes between updates not necessarily between betas. But I'm happy to hear that you are back up and running.
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If yes, what's your opinion regarding performance when compared with El Capitan?
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Will it work on my Early 2008 Mac Pro?
Do I WANT it to work on my Mac Pro?

As far as I know, this feature just like Continuity and AirDrop requires a Bluetooth 4.0 chip.
It can't be a third-party as it will break after every update. It needs to be an Apple adapter from a newer Mac.
I really wish I'm wrong about this as I have two older Macs I would like to support these features.

Could anyone else confirm the above?
 
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So I re paired the watch now and the check mark is back but Bluetooth is intermittent. Sometimes it shows that my Mac is connected (the three dots over the Bluetooth logo) but it doesn't stay for very long. Still haven't been able to unlock my Mac. I'm using a 2016 MacBook.
Okay so at home it works fine so it's something to do with being connected on the guest network at work. My phone call handoff has never worked on my work wifi either and works fine at home so apparently watch and phone have to be connected to same wifi and have bluetooth on. I'll have to connect to non guest network and see of it starts working at work.
 
Public Beta - tomorrow?

Doubtful - Apple want to ensure it is feature complete and as stable as possible or otherwise there will be nothing but bad PR as idiots post on the internet, "my computer is broken! macOS sucks!" and basically months of hard work go down the toilet because the noise from a few nitwits travel fast. Don't believe me - check out Windows 10 insider builds and the chorus of people whining about bugs in a build that openly states that it'll have bugs in it.
 
Hoping a guru might help out here.

For those not aware, once you allow Apple to iCloud your system, iCloud becomes the "master" of your data. I've been over this in another thread - but basically, this OS sounds like its turning over even MORE of your information over to iCloud, probably enabled by default (I'm guessing).

So this will be the first OS that actually frightens me. Can those testing it let the rest of us know how to prevent mighty iCloud from having more rights to our data than WE do?

Hey (hey) you (you)... get offa iCloud.

It's bad enough that nastiness is tied to every iApp - I seriously don't wish for it to spread its disease across my desktop or anywhere else. No thanks.

Just stop using the internet if you're this paranoid.
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iCloud is an insidious lil bugger - turn it on, it grabs everything it can as fast as it can and claims "ownership" - then turn it off and Apple kindly warns you - "Are you sure? Turning off iCloud will remove ALL data stored on iCloud from all of your devices."

No it doesn't. Apple is deliberate in getting permission to do anything that deals with sensitive information. You're thinking of Google and Facebook.
 
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The annual release of the first Public Beta is always a time to look forward to :D Even software Apple officially release these days has a tendency to not 'just work' so why so many clamour to install beta software, which is almost guaranteed not to work for some things, remains a mystery to me. Always fun reading the wailing posts though, and rolling ones eyes knowing the amount of times people are warned about betas doesn't change anything.

Roll on PB1...
 
Right, my mistake. I was thinking the photo editor in iOS 10, which should be able to process RAW now that the APIs in Core Image are available.

And... Wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming iPhone 7 will be able to capture RAW data off the sensor.

The 6s can already capture raw data off sensor, so the 7 will certainly be able to.

It just isn't enabled in the native camera app for some reason, but the api supports it now.
 
I'm not paranoid ;) I screwed up and allowed Apple to iCloud my "photo stream". That quickly came to a head as I ran out of "free storage". So I turned it off.

Don't wish to repeat the other thread - but I have no paranoia about others "lurking" through my stuff. My concern is that I no longer OWN MY STUFF. Apple does. Not a copyright - but the right to delete the data I CREATED across all my devices once I turn iCloud OFF. It appears to be very punitive and designed to scare most users into buying more iStorage for fear of losing their "stuff".

Please - take a tour of iCloud.com. Find the "Download All" button. It's not there.

So, you turn off iCloud - Apple gives you 30 days to reclaim any data you've stored on iCloud, which you must recover piecemeal from iCloud.com. FUN!!!!!

I seriously may not upgrade to this OS. And I'm hoping possibly OTHERS might be hesitant to allow their favoritest bestest beloved corporation ever to TAKE OWNERSHIP of THEIR data.

I don't see how I'm being paranoid or crazy or theorizing any conspiracy. iCloud is iCloud. The gurus have confirmed the TOS. Allow it to invade your computer and... good luck with ever wishing to GET OUT.

Repeat. iCloud - All Your File Are Belong to Us. Rinse, wash, repeat again.

Dont be that cheap & paranoid dud and buy + iCloud space if u need. Is that hard 4 u??
 
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Your desire to look at people's data is irrelevant. That the data is there and is unencrypted is the death knell for cloud vendors. If it's in the so-called cloud then it absolutely has to be encrypted from prying eyes of today or some AI in the future. A company's ethics are not worth anything. Purely PR fluff. All that matter is whether the data can be accessed with a court subpoena.

Actually, it is encrypted, just not where you'd think it would be encrypted. I hope you are familiar with the term VPN, or virtual private network, if not I suggest you read up on it a bit as it is pertinent to knowing how the Cloud works.

Each user on a Cloud has a private folder where they can store files, they along with the file server administrators are the only ones with access. (more on the admins in a sec)

When you log in to your cloud storage, you are encapsulated in an SSL tunnel, the strength of this tunnel varies between cloud providers, once you connect to the gateway of the cloud provider you are load balanced to an internal VPN tunnel which routes you to your file server shared folder that no other user has access to, likewise you don't have access to their shared folder either. This is a chroot jail, meaning you aren't going anywhere else due to permissions.

Since most websites today use the MVC pattern with their website architecture, this becomes even more difficult to break through as it separates the user facing content from the underlying data structure of the file server/database. In the MVC pattern you talk to the View, the View asks the Controller for data and depending on how many tiers are involved, the Model provides the Controller the data or asks an underlying layer to talk to the file server/database, to retrieve the files, which then push to the Model, then through the Controller and finally to the View for you to get them. The View has no idea of what is in the Controller, it just knows that it can call some method from the controller and expect something back. The controller acts the same way when it talks to the view, and the view talks the same way when it asks the persistence layer (file server/database code) for the data.

MVC = Model View Controller but is more logically stated in terms of who can talk to who as Model -> View -> Controller -> Model <-> Persistence Layer <-> Data.

The entire folder structure for where you place your data is encrypted, but backing up encrypted data isn't a great solution because in some cases if the user changes their password their encryption key changes and they are locked of out their data, which is why most cloud providers keep your data unencrypted at the file level until it is backed up for cold/warm storage. Also in order to manipulate the file structure admins have to have permissions to these folders in order for the job to succeed in copying your data around to multiple servers guaranteeing you 99.99...% uptime.

Even with a court subpoena, the company can still decide on whether or not they wish to comply, they have the right to decline as Apple has shown us by throwing out thousands of search requests with their own legal loopholes.

I figured I'd just throw out the non proprietary stuff of cloud computing so that you may get a better idea of how your data is secured and why anyone other than you would have access to it. If you don't like it that's fine, but at the end of the day, the data is as secure as your banking information. Even if you write a check, that check is sent over the Internet for verification with the other bank, if you go to an ATM to pull out cash, you just sent banking data over the Internet. All of your data at the bank is shared between each of the bank locations using the same technology that you'd get on the inside of that data center, for online banking, you typically get RSA(2048-bit) encryption, iCloud uses the same encryption.

Here's another factor, since Apple has Health, Wallet, customer data, and minor (kids) customer data, they have to follow several compliance laws such as HIPAA, PCI-DSS, COPPA, FOIA, ECPA, FERPA, FIPS, and GLBA. So they have to adhere all of their products to uphold these standards. In case you didn't know HIPAA is used by hospitals and PCI-DSS is used by financial institutions. With having to hold to those same standards across their entire platform, I'd say you don't have much to worry about.

I know this is long but there are people working on this stuff that know more about data protection than you and I both, and if I feel pretty good knowing what I know, I'd say we are in safe hands.
 
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Let me put it like this. Just as a company's ethics are worthless, their claims to "fully encrypt" user data are just as worthless. The only value claiming to be "fully encrypted" is when it's independently verified and audited. Let me see the white paper which fully details and discloses any cloud vendor's claims to encryption. Without checks and validation a cloud vendor's assertions on anything are irrelevant.

Point me to Apple's auditing and white papers on this then we can talk further.

Actually, it is encrypted, just not where you'd think it would be encrypted. I hope you are familiar with the term VPN, or virtual private network, if not I suggest you read up on it a bit as it is pertinent to knowing how the Cloud works.
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I know this is long but there are people working on this stuff that know more about data protection than you and I both, and if I feel pretty good knowing what I know, I'd say we are in safe hands.

I trust no company. Everybody is a liar until they prove they are not by independent auditing. Companies and their employees do dumb ass things to get around compliance by not disclosing it. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Remember, audit, audit, audit. The only way to keep companies honest.
 
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