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Apple Seeds Second Beta of macOS Sierra to Developers
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Password - Something you know
Two Factor - Something you have (like a toke or in this case, your iPhone)
Two Step - Something is given to you (like SMS code)
Biometrics - Something you are (finger print)
Hopefully RAW processing now that Core Image APIs for processing RAW captured images will be available in the next update.
I cannot install because the update is not showing up. I have restarted multiple times. Anyone know where the update files are?
Get over yourself, there is nothing wrong with iCloud.
I believe you might need Settings>Security & Privacy> General> Allow your Apple Watch to unlock your Mac
Siri seemed to be improved.
What about the "back" button at the upper left-hand corner? Was it present in the first beta?
What about the "back" button at the upper left-hand corner? Was it present in the first beta?
I'm not paranoidI screwed up and allowed Apple to iCloud my "photo stream". That quickly came to a head as I ran out of "free storage". So I turned it off.
Don't wish to repeat the other thread - but I have no paranoia about others "lurking" through my stuff. My concern is that I no longer OWN MY STUFF. Apple does. Not a copyright - but the right to delete the data I CREATED across all my devices once I turn iCloud OFF. It appears to be very punitive and designed to scare most users into buying more iStorage for fear of losing their "stuff".
Please - take a tour of iCloud.com. Find the "Download All" button. It's not there.
So, you turn off iCloud - Apple gives you 30 days to reclaim any data you've stored on iCloud, which you must recover piecemeal from iCloud.com. FUN!!!!!
I seriously may not upgrade to this OS. And I'm hoping possibly OTHERS might be hesitant to allow their favoritest bestest beloved corporation ever to TAKE OWNERSHIP of THEIR data.
I don't see how I'm being paranoid or crazy or theorizing any conspiracy. iCloud is iCloud. The gurus have confirmed the TOS. Allow it to invade your computer and... good luck with ever wishing to GET OUT.
Repeat. iCloud - All Your File Are Belong to Us. Rinse, wash, repeat again.
The files are encrypted, so what could Apple do with it? Anyways, just don't put pictures of yourself butt naked doing your neighbors wive and you will be fine
I noticed immediately that Siri is now working with my calendar when it didn't in DP1. For example, I can now ask "What's on my calendar on Friday" and it'll give me the list of things going on - that didn't work before.
Siri seemed to be improved.
What about the "back" button at the upper left-hand corner? Was it present in the first beta?
Paranoid? I think you have past this stage a long time ago.
Just to counter everyone 'freaking out' about the dramatic increase iCloud sync (which was one of the first things I noticed) - keep in mind they're also introducing the APFS (although not the default system yet) - it can locally encrypt EVERY SINGLE FILE on your computer. So you could theoretically have all of your information in the cloud and encrypted locally - which sort of nullifies the icloud syncing thing. It's definitely a double edged sword, and the icloud syncing is starting probably a year ahead of the encryption - but unless you literally want to run debian without ANY connection to the internet your identity is not private and it never will be private again, so we need to adjust into this new reality and work within the system to do what we can to facilitate some sort of balance. I ASSUME dev's are the ones using this OS - so we are responsible for architecting the future software and how it interacts with average user. If you wanna steal info for ad companies to make money, you're the problem. Apple is walking a tightrope between it's enormous customer base and forces like the FBI that's been working them hard all year. Obviously some balance was struck, and the introduction of APFS and the INABILITY to use iCloud passphrase for filevault seem like a big WINK from apple us (devs) - as to what's happening behind the scenes. Also, 'opting out' of cloud sync or geo data has no guarantee of being remotely turned on. Something is always syncing, just look at your internet traffic.
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Are you a developer? If you are I wouldn't use your apps, your knowledge seems poor. You should use the support website more. Just don't sign into the system prefs iCloud pane if it concerns you so much.
Unless Apple had that feature removed at some time and reintroduced it, that's actually almost as old as iTunes itself. I have CDs I burned myself with that mosaic cover that are 12+ years old.You can now print tracklists on iTunes. Also the album sizes in "Recently Added" is changed again. It's quite big...
Edit: I just checked iTunes under El Capitan, and the same print options are present there, too.
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another person who needs to use the support articles
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204570
Down the bottom of that page.
After you choose to delete the iCloud Photo Library just open the photos app, set prefs to "download originals" & it will download the photos automatically for you. That's the "download all" you are looking for.
But technically you should already have the photos on your devices if they came from those devices unless you deleted your originals.
You are aware of the iCloud preference in System Preferences, right? There are no hoops. Its a list of checkboxes. Uncheck whatever you don't want. Turn it on for iMessage, Facetime, turn it off for storage.
You are going quite dramatic without actually knowing what is going on. Its quite simple: Apple added a new option to sync your data to iCloud and make it accessible to the rest of your iPhones/Macs/iPads. Its an option. You can turn it off. You can do so before you've turned on anything else.
So no, Apple does not own your stuff. You do not have lose syncing of messages, calendar, notes, and contacts. None of the dramatic stuff you're yelling about and scaring people who know even less than you do.
We are in Beta 2. Just chill. When the OS comes out, read one of the review guides.
I'm not paranoid
Don't wish to repeat the other thread - but I have no paranoia about others "lurking" through my stuff. My concern is that I no longer OWN MY STUFF. Apple does. Not a copyright - but the right to delete the data I CREATED across all my devices once I turn iCloud OFF. It appears to be very punitive and designed to scare most users into buying more iStorage for fear of losing their "stuff".
Please - take a tour of iCloud.com. Find the "Download All" button. It's not there.
So, you turn off iCloud - Apple gives you 30 days to reclaim any data you've stored on iCloud, which you must recover piecemeal from iCloud.com. FUN!!!!!
I seriously may not upgrade to this OS. And I'm hoping possibly OTHERS might be hesitant to allow their favoritest bestest beloved corporation ever to TAKE OWNERSHIP of THEIR data.
I don't see how I'm being paranoid or crazy or theorizing any conspiracy. iCloud is iCloud. The gurus have confirmed the TOS. Allow it to invade your computer and... good luck with ever wishing to GET OUT.
Repeat. iCloud - All Your File Are Belong to Us. Rinse, wash, repeat again.
People who are paranoid don't know they are paranoid.
I used to work in cloud computing, which is essentially iCloud. I'll put it like this, deleting a customers data no matter what tier they were on is illegal, it would cost me my job, and the company I worked for would have been sued.
Did I have the ability to look at customers data? Yes.
Did I care to look at customer's data? No
My job was to protect the data that the customers placed on our servers. I so busy with installing updates and patches, and restoring files and folders that I wouldn't have had time to go through customers data even if I had wanted to.
With that being said, your concerns are valid concerns for someone who doesn't know anything about business ethics in cloud computing, but I'll just say you don't need to be concerned about who's trying to peak at your data. People who work in cloud computing care about the content of your data about as much as you care about what movies I have on VHS. All that is important to them is that the data is there until they remove it.
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Frankly the first Beta isn't good enough for a public Beta.
In any event I wouldn't be in a rush, my Mac is showing 1 day and 4 hours to download this beta. Something is running really slow today.
I run my 2012 rMBP in clamshell mode at work. Any word if the Watch unlock will work with 1-2 feet distance from my watch?