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Apple Seeds Second macOS 13 Ventura Release Candidate to Developers
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Here’s the answer to why it’s now working as expected in earlier betas for those with Mac minis or Mac Studios:
Due to privacy concerns with Macs that don’t have any other cameras available, we don’t want camera applications to start streaming from their phone simply because it is the only camera on the system. To indicate a level of intent to use the continuity camera before it is published for applications to use, the phone must either
(A) be plugged into the Mac with a wired connection (e.g. lightning to USB cable on the Mac), or
(B) satisfy the wireless Automatic Camera Selection requirements:
- landscape left or landscape right orientation, aligned with horizon
- locked, screen off
- motionless (not handheld)
- both front/back cameras unobstructed
- nearby “strong” bluetooth signal strength
Macs which have a built-in or USB camera available will publish Continuity Camera devices for manual selection outside of those requirements, but will only automatically switch between cameras (in supporting applications) based on meeting those requirements.
Then it needs to be stated that this is the case, and the other issue is why require that both devices be logged onto the same account with 2FA enabled? Vast majority of people clearly know after close to 3 years of working from home when they want to be on camera or not.
Due to privacy concerns with Macs that don’t have any other cameras available, we don’t want camera applications to start streaming from their phone simply because it is the only camera on the system. To indicate a level of intent to use the continuity camera before it is published for applications to use, the phone must either
(A) be plugged into the Mac with a wired connection (e.g. lightning to USB cable on the Mac), or
(B) satisfy the wireless Automatic Camera Selection requirements:
- landscape left or landscape right orientation, aligned with horizon
- locked, screen off
- motionless (not handheld)
- both front/back cameras unobstructed
- nearby “strong” bluetooth signal strength
Macs which have a built-in or USB camera available will publish Continuity Camera devices for manual selection outside of those requirements, but will only automatically switch between cameras (in supporting applications) based on meeting those requirements.
Then it needs to be stated that this is the case, and the other issue is why require that both devices be logged onto the same account with 2FA enabled? Vast majority of people clearly know after close to 3 years of working from home when they want to be on camera or not.
"We put bad cameras in our laptops so now we'll let you use your phone as a camera. Don't have a webcam at all or you're using the bad Studio Display camera? Sorry you're out of luck."A lot of web content seen online is done on laptops, and the iPhone cameras are clearly superior to internal FaceTime cameras. So yeah I don't think Apple intent is so much with using a Mac mini or Mac Studio. More like laptops or all-in-ones.
You notice that apple displays a laptop in this document
Continuity Camera: Use your iPhone or iPad to scan documents or take a picture on your Mac - Apple Support
Use your iPhone or iPad to scan documents or take a picture of something nearby and have it appear instantly on your Mac.support.apple.com
Same here in their web pages
macOS - Continuity
Do more using Mac with other Apple devices. Make calls and send texts, use iPhone as a webcam, hand off files, and automatically unlock your Mac.www.apple.com
Very vague using "Mac" without specific hardware criteria for it to work if you look for that info.
I actually like the new version. It's not perfect, but it's an improvement. And perfect is hard to achieve for an app like this, because so much of what it's managing is in the "miscellaneous" category. There's a lot of one-off stuff that doesn't nicely generalize, or spans categories. For example: to specify whether battery level is shown in the menu bar, is that a menu bar setting, or a battery setting?
While I agree that 'no' is not a good answer, I don't think it's as doom and gloom as you say here. Remember, differing opinions are good and don't necessarily imply malice. It's entirely possible to love something but still dislike parts of it. To do otherwise would be the polar opposite of what you say, but equally as problematic. I don't think the purpose of MR is to be an echo chamber of Borg-like devotion any more than it's meant for 'haters'. It's a forum for discussion and, as with any discourse, people are going to have their own individual opinions. That's what makes life fun and interesting!
I have found apps after the new update open very quick! I mean not even the icon on the dock bounce! Bang! Straight there!
No of course not, criticism can be good. But I think what he meant is that most people that always complain about Apple just do that to complain and almost never explain their opinion. If you don’t have anything useful to say, don’t say it. And trashing Apple with a 3 word sentence without any elaboration isn’t really useful I believe.
You don't know what I use and obviously if I am replying to you, its stable.Its more stable then what you use.
Well, it's supposed to be a minor update from RC1Yes, that means us Intel Mac people don't get 11.5GB of new features.
It now resembles the iPad, but still somewhat disorganized. I guess that eventually they will figure out what goes where, and in the end we will all be happy.
That’s not what the OP was talking about and you know it.
I'll do a clean install in mid-november on my mac studio; hopefully 13.1 will have been released by then.
The trend in the latest versions is to shake the system prefs window and relase it as the random says.
Also love the feature of “lets hide preferences all over the system” in the Windows way
If I do a wipe and reinstall on Monday afternoon EST, will it pull Monterey or Ventura?
Also, any changes or improvements to Bootcamp on Intel macs?
Also, any changes or improvements to Bootcamp on Intel macs?
I don't think you'll see 13.1 that soon. Last two xx.1 releases were Dec 15 and Dec 14 (Monterey, Big Sur).
I know, I'm just trying to convince myself 😆
I'll move to Ventura in mid-movember regardless, as I really want to do a clean install and there's little sense coming back to Monterey.
I also REALLY hope some software will eventually take advantage of Metal 3
I see what you mean, yes. Though if I had to pick one, I'd say battery setting.
Yup. Having used macOS for 15 years I think I've developed a good instinct for when to upgrade OS's right away vs waiting. I upgraded to Monterey right away last year but my spidey-senses are indicating to definitely not update until at minimum 13.2.
It’s different.
Maybe I’m in the minority, but I don’t update system settings that often anyway to really care.
I suggest downloading a Monterey installer and making a bootable USB drive for it:
macOS 12 Monterey Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!
Download macOS Monterey full installer with one click straight from Apple! Every version of Monterey Beta & Final available all in one place!!
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Create a bootable installer for macOS - Apple Support
You can use a USB flash drive or other secondary volume as a startup disk from which to install the Mac operating system. These steps are primarily for system administrators and other experienced users.
This way you will always be able to go back if you need to.
I use two MBPs side by side for work -- one x86, one M1 Max. The main difference I notice is that OS updates are *so* much faster on the M1. I suspect this has more to do with Intel's godawful boot architecture than the speed of the CPU. On the M1, Ventura's Preparing phase does seem faster than Monterey's. On the x86, both are super slow.