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Apple Seeds Seventh OS X 10.11.4 El Capitan Beta to Developers and Public Beta Testers

northernmunky said:
Please release tomorrow, I'd really like my Ethernet port to stop disabling itself!
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Ditto. Even after replacing all related hardware ( cables, modem, router, cable jacks, you name it ) with new, my iMac's ethernet connection drops about once a day, so the probability this is an OS issue increases. Thanks for mentioning this.
 
Lacasse said:
Yup, he's right. It does work. I just enabled three finger swipe and it works in finder.
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Yeah, i will try on a newer Mac tomorrow, sounds awesome (time to retire my oldies i guess), anyways, weird that the default swipe settings "2 finger roll" (or whatever it is called on the english version of OS X) doesnt seem to work in Finder? You had to change the settings for it to work? Kinda seems inconsistent, so the gesture ALWAYS works in browsers but we have to change from default to another one to get more of a global application swipe. Why not always be able to swipe in finder too?
 
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Morod said:
Mail and Safari could use a little love in this update. Mail 9.2 just seems to open on its own, whenever it feels like. Safari is so slow to load. I only use Adblock and WOT extensions.
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I put in a bug report for the Mail App randomly auto launching ever since installing El Capitan. Engineering responded to me and asked for more information a couple of times. Then they came back and said my bug report was a duplicate. Hopefully this means Apple is working on it sooner than years later lol.
 
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mithion said:
I don't really understand people who complain that apple is going through too many betas, but then also complain about lack of quality control. It is precisely for the reason of quality control that they are going through betas. If it takes a couple of extra builds to fix bugs, by all means do it!

It's for the same reasons I'm also again a fixed release schedule. Apple releases new versions of OSX like clockwork every fall, but I disagree with that philosophy. I'd rather them release their stuff when it's ready as opposed to "release every fall" because that's what people expect. Who's with me on this?
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I think the fixed release schedule has a whole lot to do with the iPhone/iOS cycle. The tighter the integration between OS X, iOS, and iCloud, the more important it is to have all features available on all platforms simultaneously. The new iPhone needs new features, those features require iOS support, those features may require parity with OS X and iCloud... It's an ecosystem!
 
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Did they finally fix the green button being maximize instead of fullscreen? Are 3rd party apps like TotalFinder and XtraFinder now compatible?

If not, then this update is useless.
 
Every beta a front page article?
Jess13 said:
My three-finger drag is broken, I have no reason why. The bug/reason might have somehow altered functionality, so three-finger drag items/Finder windows has been replaced with three-finger back and forth through Finder windows.
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Im missing this too, but i hve a different scenario. At some point my ability to use multi gestures to move windows and files around the finder has been removed. 2009 Macbook Pro. OSX 10.11.3 regular release.

It Used to be a preference, but can no longer find it. Intentionally removed id say.
 
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bladerunner2000 said:
Did they finally fix the green button being maximize instead of fullscreen? Are 3rd party apps like TotalFinder and XtraFinder now compatible?

If not, then this update is useless.
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Well the green button is not exactly a bug that needs fixing so much as a design decision. But I'm with you in the sense I'd rather have it maximize as opposed to enable fullscreen. I'd very much like a checkbox somewhere to toggle between the two which would make everyone happy.
 
R3k said:
Every beta a front page article?


Im missing this too, but i hve a different scenario. At some point my ability to use multi gestures to move windows and files around the finder has been removed. 2009 Macbook Pro. OSX 10.11.3 regular release.

It Used to be a preference, but can no longer find it. Intentionally removed id say.
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Honestly I don’t remember if it was listed as a functionality in trackpad settings to select to use, or if it just worked auto by default. But it has been irritating to not have it, because it was good. :(
 
bladerunner2000 said:
Did they finally fix the green button being maximize instead of fullscreen? Are 3rd party apps like TotalFinder and XtraFinder now compatible?

If not, then this update is useless.
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The update is not about accomodating the shortcuts to your liking, and will never be. Stop asking. On the other hand, folders on top would be nice...
 
Jess13 said:
Yeah that might be a culprit, because yes I have a glass trackpad. My three-finger drag is broken, I have no reason why. The bug/reason might have somehow altered functionality, so three-finger drag items/Finder windows has been replaced with three-finger back and forth through Finder windows.
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R3k said:
Im missing this too, but i hve a different scenario. At some point my ability to use multi gestures to move windows and files around the finder has been removed. 2009 Macbook Pro. OSX 10.11.3 regular release.

It Used to be a preference, but can no longer find it. Intentionally removed id say.
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They changed the location of the three-finger drag. To activate it, you need to go to System Preferences > Accessibility > Mouse & Trackpad > Trackpad Options… and check Enable dragging with three finger drag.
 
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Jess13 said:
Yeah that might be a culprit, because yes I have a glass trackpad. My three-finger drag is broken, I have no reason why. The bug/reason might have somehow altered functionality, so three-finger drag items/Finder windows has been replaced with three-finger back and forth through Finder windows.
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I think my three finger drag was disabled when I upgraded to 10.11 and to enable it you have to go to Preferences, Accessibility, Trackpad and then I think advanced options or something. They really made it hard to find. Kinda stupid because I always thought it was super useful.
 
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danielagos said:
They changed the location of the three-finger drag. To activate it, you need to go to System Preferences > Accessibility > Mouse & Trackpad > Trackpad Options… and check Enable dragging with three finger drag.
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Thank you!
 
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Three finger drag: System Preferences>Accessibility>Mouse & Trackpad>Trackpad Options

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mithion said:
I don't really understand people who complain that apple is going through too many betas, but then also complain about lack of quality control. It is precisely for the reason of quality control that they are going through betas. If it takes a couple of extra builds to fix bugs, by all means do it!

It's for the same reasons I'm also again a fixed release schedule. Apple releases new versions of OSX like clockwork every fall, but I disagree with that philosophy. I'd rather them release their stuff when it's ready as opposed to "release every fall" because that's what people expect. Who's with me on this?
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If new versions of OS X had their release slip beyond the fall, software such as TurboTax could not be validated to run on them before tax season.
 
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