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Apple today seeded the seventh beta of macOS Ventura to its public beta testing group, allowing non-developers to test the new macOS Ventura operating system ahead of its release. The seventh beta comes following the sixth public beta and it corresponds with ninth developer beta released earlier this week.

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Public beta testers can download the macOS 13 Ventura update from the Software Update section of the System Preferences app after installing the proper profile from Apple's beta software website.

macOS Ventura introduces Stage Manager, a new multi-tasking option for focusing on a task while having other apps waiting in the wings. Stage Manager puts your main app front and center, tucking your other apps to the side for quick access.

Continuity Camera allows you to use your iPhone as a webcam for your Mac, offering much better camera quality than the built-in Mac camera. Apple is building special stands to hold the iPhone with a Mac, and there are neat features like Desk View, which uses the Ultra Wide lens.

Handoff now works with FaceTime so you can answer calls on the Mac and then transfer them over to another device, and Messages is gaining undo, edit, and mark as unread features. SharePlay now works in Messages in addition to FaceTime, and the Mail app has been overhauled. Search is more relevant, emails can be scheduled, and there's even an option to undo an email for up to 10 seconds after it's sent.

Apple brought the Weather and Clock apps to the Mac, redesigned System Preferences and renamed it System Settings, and added support for Shared Tab Groups. Passwords are being replaced with more secure Passkeys in iOS 16 and macOS Ventura, and there are updates to Spotlight, Visual Lookup, Live Text, and more.

There are a ton of other features in macOS Ventura, and we have a full rundown available in our dedicated macOS Ventura roundup.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Seventh Public Beta of macOS 13 Ventura
 
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diamornte

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What's messed up is that as a professional TV editor, I cannot upgrade my Macs to the latest OS because none of my editing programs are ever ready for the transition - and this includes company VPN software I use to work from home that is not stable on the new Mac OSes. As a company that caters to "pros," Apple has work to do. Their Mac OS development needs to be tailored to work with professional software that "pros" actually use. And this isn't including Final Cut Pro, Apple's software. Apple is fully invested in FCP so it feels hopeless to think they would work with Adobe or Avid on making compatible OS and software development & releases.
 

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how has Ventura been so far?

Probably will hang out on Monterey for a while on my m1 air and upgrade a couple months after GM.
I been using it since the first Ventura beta, this is the ninth beta of MacOS 13. For me on 1 M1 24" iMac and a M1 Max 16" MPB its been stable. Safari issues with sVOD sites sometimes causing a lag with interface responding on occasion has been better. Using Safari with normal URL has been normal. No applications quitting, no process you need to worry about running high CPU. The Weather app aka Dark Sky is enough of attraction to make you upgrade immediately. Not using external displays presently.
 
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What's messed up is that as a professional TV editor, I cannot upgrade my Macs to the latest OS because none of my editing programs are ever ready for the transition - and this includes company VPN software I use to work from home that is not stable on the new Mac OSes. As a company that caters to "pros," Apple has work to do.
More like the companies that software you say are not updated against Ventura are at fault. Ventura was initially released June 6. You can alway add your observations on what works and what doesn't on this thread.
 

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Whoever is at fault, this happens all the time with every new OS release, so the one who can fix it the most is Apple.
The whole point of an extended beta for several months against a major OS revision is to get 3rd party developers educated to what needs to change, implemented, be aware of for future revisions of existing software to work properly. A lot of older software is still intel running in Rosetta 2. You would need to clarify the apps you are having issues as universal or intel and send feedback to Apple about these problem you see with feedback assistance as well as communicate with those vendors.
 

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More like the companies that software you say are not updated against Ventura are at fault. Ventura was initially released June 6. You can alway add your observations on what works and what doesn't on this thread.
Ventura was not released on June 6. It was announced, and the beta was released. Developers, other than through their beta channels, are generally not able to release next-OS-release-specific-updates until the public version lands. That hasn't happened yet.
 

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Seems my wifi issues on Ventura were fixed when I turned my VPN kill switch off. This beta installed no muss no fuss and wifi working as expected.
 

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I've been tempted to run the beta on my M1 iMac, but I may just hold off a bit longer until the RC drops.
 

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Ventura was not released on June 6. It was announced, and the beta was released. Developers, other than through their beta channels, are generally not able to release next-OS-release-specific-updates until the public version lands. That hasn't happened yet.
When I said it was initially released I wasn't talking about pubic OTA release but the first dev beta at WWDC 2022. 3rd party developers can certainly issue updates to their software that are compatible with Ventura betas as the process to RC and public release. With the mix of developers, public beta testers and other seed testers this is the time to update/fix your software, not after Ventura is fully released in sometime October. I dislike software that breaks with a new release of a OS and there is no ETA for it to be fixed. ;)
 
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I've been running it since the first beta and it's been very bad mostly in Visual Studio Code. Pasting seems to frequently take several seconds. Of course, this could have been a coincidence but I didn't have these issues before. This is the last time I go with a Beta.
 

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how has Ventura been so far?

Probably will hang out on Monterey for a while on my m1 air and upgrade a couple months after GM.
Aside from the expected little Ui issues, I haven’t experienced anything that prevents me from working. Parallels is also running my Win11 installation on my M1 MBP. The most annoying issue is some menu and mousing UI glitches in MS Office apps. Annoying, but easily manageable with the keyboard. Hopefully, this new beta fixes it OR MS updates Office to fix these issues.
 
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What's messed up is that as a professional TV editor, I cannot upgrade my Macs to the latest OS because none of my editing programs are ever ready for the transition - and this includes company VPN software I use to work from home that is not stable on the new Mac OSes. As a company that caters to "pros," Apple has work to do. Their Mac OS development needs to be tailored to work with professional software that "pros" actually use. And this isn't including Final Cut Pro, Apple's software. Apple is fully invested in FCP so it feels hopeless to think they would work with Adobe or Avid on making compatible OS and software development & releases.

If your stuck using software that doesn't update very often, just run one year behind on macOS....you know, when macOS 14 comes out, then upgrade to macOS Venture. Rinse and repeat every year.

If the software you actually use isn't updated to the latest version of macOS, it isn't like you are missing out on any features you need anyway. Plus you will have the advantage of getting to use a much more stable version of macOS every year.
 
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Still frustrated that Safari cache’s so many instances that it’s like a snake eating its own tail. Flushing the cache via the developer menu is literally memory pressure relief for the system. Genuinely curious why Safari has been doing this for so long…
 

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Still frustrated that Safari cache’s so many instances that it’s like a snake eating its own tail. Flushing the cache via the developer menu is literally memory pressure relief for the system. Genuinely curious why Safari has been doing this for so long…
Great reminder, the telltale signs might be the tab becomes unresponsive for some time, such as not able to scroll vertically, or auto spelling doesn't respond to an underlined work you just typed.

Back aways you had google crowing about their online caching making Safari score lower numbers than Chrome. You can see in the earlier post how much faster Safari local caching changed between MacOS 12.3 and 12.4. But there is something not quite fixed that causes the most recent Safari to not release memory sometimes as it should.
 

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how has Ventura been so far?

Probably will hang out on Monterey for a while on my m1 air and upgrade a couple months after GM.
I've been using it since the first public beta on a base M1 MBA.
I haven't had any major issues and it was stable for me but I also don't use any exotic software. It's mostly Word, Affinity Photo, Safari, Excel, Spotify and the odd Apple Arcade game.
Some relatively minor (for me) stuff like Mail freezing when quitting it, widgets in Notification Center being broken, delayed notifications for messages - but those are all fixed now.

I'm still somewhat on the fence about the new System Preferences Settings but I don't know if that's because it's actually not very good or because I'm used to the old one.
 
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