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Also another thing with mdnsresponder is that it is widely used outside of Apple - many routers (including Apple's own which is based on VxWorks) utilise it, Microsoft I'm sure tested their own implementation against what is out there

Microsoft doesn't have an implementation of ZeroConf.
 
Wow, I don't know where to start...

I have seen so many of these comments that you mentioned. I think Apple is supposed to release a perfect operating system that works for everyone without any betas.
 
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3 - Insane battery drain. I was getting 20+ hours under iOS 8 two weeks ago. Now I'm getting 4-6 hours with iOS 9 beta 1. This is easily the highest priority bug to fix - it impacts me every day and renders my iPhone for the later part of the day. This isn't a small problem that requires a bit of tweaking - this seems like a massive issue that needs to be fixed immediately. It may be a small issue code wise... maybe just a busy loop somewhere wasting power in the background... but it has a huge impact on user experience

Nothing is a massive issue in beta 1. Even if the OS crashed every 30 seconds beta testers aren't supposed to go around getting their knickers in a twist about it. You would submit a bug report, and advise you are unable to test further and wait for beta 2. You don't demand a beta 2 'immediately.'

If your user experience is being impacted every day then you shouldn't have installed a developers' beta 1 OS on your phone. If this were a release candidate, you might have a point, but there are months ahead where the beta process will take its usual course. You may find the battery drain is actually a very low priority bug right now, depending on how much Apple know about the causes, and how much work would be involved to fix it.
 
The included firmware update of the new 10.10.4 PB changed my grey 2012 Mac mini boot screen to the new black/white design. Nice look. :cool:
(If it finally would fix the kernel panic and graphics flickering problem that 10.10.3 brought, I'd be happier... but at least it will crash more beautiful now :p).
 
So.. We get yet another Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.4 BETA just one week after the last one, but still no iOS 9 BETA2 to fix the battery drain? :(

I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you now. Maybe you'll think twice before installing a beta operating system on a cell phone next time.

Yosemite is a released product, with existing bugs users are suffering from. It's clear which one should be the more important -- which is a stupid argument as well. They're two operating systems with different teams. There's no evidence a release on one side is coming at the cost of the other. It's just a matter that one team is ready for a new beta and the other is not yet.
 
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From the timing, perhaps this is getting close to being rolled out. I have to agree with the other posters though. 10.11 is where its at. I don't think we'll see too much more from apple with regards to 10.10
 
This could be the last stable release for sometime, so happy they take their time. When they release the new OS, it's going to bring with it new bugs.
 
OS X Yosemite? What is this nonsense? El Capitan is where it's at. I barely remember Yosemite. What version was that . . OS X 10.3? I'm pretty this came before Tiger right? hmmm . . . . .

It's so funny when they announce a 6-month preview of the next-gen OS you act like the previous gen isn't only 6 months old. LOL
 
It will release along side iOS 8.4 on 30th of June. Unless they will simply offer the Apple Music app separately through Mac App Store? But that sounds unlikely as that would rely on users actually grabbing it themselves. Or perhaps it will be pushed as a update to iTunes?

Didn't anyone actually watch the keynote?

Apple Music is a part of iTunes on the Mac and Windows.
 
Can i ask...given that the beta for the next version is out. do updates to this version get replicated into the next beta of the next version or do bugs continue.

in case that doesn't make sense. lets say in this beta they fix a bug that is in a bit of the new version that hasn't been touched - does the bug fix get moved into the new version as well. i.e. how does software development work? is there a common core and who ever is building a new version always uses the latest?
 
Nothing is a massive issue in beta 1. Even if the OS crashed every 30 seconds beta testers aren't supposed to go around getting their knickers in a twist about it. You would submit a bug report, and advise you are unable to test further and wait for beta 2. You don't demand a beta 2 'immediately.'

If your user experience is being impacted every day then you shouldn't have installed a developers' beta 1 OS on your phone. If this were a release candidate, you might have a point, but there are months ahead where the beta process will take its usual course. You may find the battery drain is actually a very low priority bug right now, depending on how much Apple know about the causes, and how much work would be involved to fix it.

I understand the risks involved with installing a beta OS on my device. That's why everything is backed up. Before installing the OS, I made sure I'd be okay if my entire iPhone was bricked as a result (it would suck, sure, but I could manage.)

I'm not demanding anything. Nowhere in that post did I use a word like that. I mentioned it was easily the most severe bug.

Here's what I don't understand: you don't think it's a big issue. If iOS 9 was released today, that is the issue everyone would be talking about. No one would care about the other issues, because they're all trivial compared to this one. Apple shouldn't put off fixing it - if they put it off, then they run the risk of having other issues pop up.

Given the relative lack of other issues, this is something they need to fix in beta 2. Honestly, if they fix the battery drain issue, they could ship beta 2 as the release version of iOS 9, I think. Apple Music and News can wait and be added in 9.1. Or they could be apps you get via the App Store, no update required.
 
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Given the relative lack of other issues, this is something they need to fix in beta 2. Honestly, if they fix the battery drain issue, they could ship beta 2 as the release version of iOS 9, I think. Apple Music and News can wait and be added in 9.1. Or they could be apps you get via the App Store, no update required.
This is not an iOS thread.
 
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Is this available in Public beta yet? The article's title says it is but when I log in to beta.apple.com (Public Beta Program) it says it's "Coming Soon".

You got me all excited!
 
Is this available in Public beta yet? The article's title says it is but when I log in to beta.apple.com (Public Beta Program) it says it's "Coming Soon".

You got me all excited!

That's for 10.11. This is for 10.10.4, which is indeed in public beta.
 
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