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Apple Seeds Tenth Beta of macOS Mojave to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

I've been using Mojave and for me, its flagship feature isn't Dark Mode, but how polished everything is.

I was able to compare a clean install of High Sierra with a clean install of Mojave and Mojave is definitely noticeably faster on the same iMac. I would usually attribute that to a new install being fresh but both of these were installed on a wiped drive and on the same iMac so it's definitely the OS that performs better. And it's still in beta!

I like most of Dark Mode but I can't live with the dark Finder windows. App icons were designed for a light backdrop don't work really well on a dark screen.
 
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How's the stability of this thing? Thinking of downloading from High Sierra but don't know if I want to risk it yet.
 
ipedro said:
I've been using Mojave and for me, its flagship feature isn't Dark Mode, but how polished everything is.

I was able to compare a clean install of High Sierra with a clean install of Mojave and Mojave is definitely noticeably faster on the same iMac. I would usually attribute that to a new install being fresh but both of these were installed on a wiped drive and on the same iMac so it's definitely the OS that performs better. And it's still in beta!

I like most of Dark Mode but I can't live with the dark Finder windows. App icons were designed for a light backdrop don't work really well on a dark screen.
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Agreed. High Sierra was a hot mess from the beginning and still is, in many ways. Password prompts lose window focus, contacts syncing doesn't work properly with iCloud despite countless reinstalls/resetting PLIST files on my part, and the entire OS has just been a mess from the get-go. I remember installation (clean install) taking about 40 minutes on my rMBP 2015, while Mojave's installer took 20 minutes (clean install).

IMHO, High Sierra, along with Mavericks, were among Apple's historic worst releases, along with 10.0 Cheetah and 10.0 DP2, as well as System 6 (I think?). I remember the initial release of 10.5.0 (Leopard) not being too hot, either, as well as the infamous hosed 10.2.8 update (Firewire).

Seriously hoping Mojave will bring back the stability of Sierra, Yosemite, Snow Leopard, and Tiger. So far, in the betas, it does seem to be.
 
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Agreed. High Sierra was a hot mess from the beginning and still is, in many ways. Password prompts lose window focus, contacts syncing doesn't work properly with iCloud despite countless reinstalls/resetting PLIST files on my part, and the entire OS has just been a mess from the get-go. I remember installation (clean install) taking about 40 minutes on my rMBP 2015, while Mojave's installer took 20 minutes (clean install).

IMHO, High Sierra, along with Mavericks, were among Apple's historic worst releases, along with 10.0 Cheetah and 10.0 DP2, as well as System 6 (I think?). I remember the initial release of 10.5.0 (Leopard) not being too hot, either, as well as the infamous hosed 10.2.8 update (Firewire).
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Yep. Luckily I had a few friends move to High Sierra first and then warn me, so I've just stuck with the regular Sierra on my iMac 5K and 2017 MacBook Pro. It has been rock solid, too. In fact, everything has been so stable I'm afraid to move on. I think I'll wait a couple months on Mojave and see if they've fixed the numerous issues High Sierra has had. Not sure what's going on over at Apple but it seems like iOS 11 and High Sierra were the worst operating systems they've put out in a decade. I really hope that iOS12 and Mojave do not continue the trend.
 
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So much for METAL compatible graphics cards.

Still cannot install it. And Fat chance I'll be buying a new Mac just for DARK MODE! LOL

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HansHeino said:
Yes they did, a few hours later.
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Typically, MacRumors updates its original post to reflect that. The post for the previous developer build was not updated and I can’t find any references to that build being released to the public.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/27/apple-seeds-macos-mojave-beta-9/

Only the eighth beta appears to have been released most recently to the public, unless I’m missing something:

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/20/apple-seeds-macos-mojave-beta-8/
 
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syntax said:
Typically, MacRumors updates its original post to reflect that. The post for the previous developer build was not updated and I can’t find any references to that build being released to the public.

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/27/apple-seeds-macos-mojave-beta-9/

Only the eighth beta appears to have been released most recently to the public, unless I’m missing something:

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/08/20/apple-seeds-macos-mojave-beta-8/
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True, the public beta availability was mentioned in the comments though: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ve-to-developers.2134229/page-2#post-26390411
 
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Shame it won't run on my seven year old laptop or desktop. Obsolescence is coming too quickly.
 
I wish Apple would release updates for Nvidia drivers 600/700 series...
 
Vjosullivan said:
Shame it won't run on my seven year old laptop or desktop. Obsolescence is coming too quickly.
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I believe this is due to the 32 bit processors, rather than anything else.
The "current" crop of supported Macs appear to all be 64 bit i5 or i7 machines. I know this is the difference between the supported 2012 Mac Mini lineup, as the previous generations were all 32 bit machines.
 
Hodar1 said:
I believe this is due to the 32 bit processors, rather than anything else.
The "current" crop of supported Macs appear to all be 64 bit i5 or i7 machines. I know this is the difference between the supported 2012 Mac Mini lineup, as the previous generations were all 32 bit machines.
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In the past it’s been mentioned that it’s whether the machine’s GPU can support Metal or not that determines the cutoff.
 
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Unfortunately most of the apps I have to use for work like PowerPoint crash upon startup in Mojave.
 
Hodar1 said:
I believe this is due to the 32 bit processors, rather than anything else.
The "current" crop of supported Macs appear to all be 64 bit i5 or i7 machines. I know this is the difference between the supported 2012 Mac Mini lineup, as the previous generations were all 32 bit machines.
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No they weren't. Only the Core Solo/Duo Macs back in 2006 were 32-bit. The slightly later Macs (up to 2010ish) also had 32-bit EFI firmware, which was what Apple used to justify the last major cutoff. Although, that reasoning was pretty factitious since 64-bit Linux ran fine on those machines in EFI mode.

This time it's the ridiculous deprecation of OpenGL in favour of Apple's proprietary Metal that's caused it, and the lack of support on those older GPUs for the hardware calls Metal uses. Better reasoning than the 32-bit EFI one but still a bit shaky.
 
Hope this one finally fixes Airdrop not working at all and thumbnails not showing a real preview of the file. Been submitting both as bugs for at least the last 4 betas.
 
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