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great question. There is an audience for this, but it is minuscule compared to the population that needs a stable, “it just works” operating system.

what’s amazing to me is how many aspects of the os break each release which get no additional functionality.
That’s how I felt about the face like emoticons and all the junky message stickers but seems lots of others love those type of features. So perhaps this feature will be widely popular among the average user as well. Not my cup of tea.
 
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great question. There is an audience for this, but it is minuscule compared to the population that needs a stable, “it just works” operating system.

what’s amazing to me is how many aspects of the os break each release which get no additional functionality.
I'd like to see them pull another 10.6.
Just take a full update to do nothing but fix bugs, clean up code, do optimizations and refinements. Spend time tweaking and perfecting the already included tools. Not add anything that would take a very minimum amount of work to do. Just focus on the core OS itself and what's already included.
To be frank I'd really like to see MS do the exact same. Take a few update cycles to do NOTHING but fixing open bugs, cleaning up any code that needs it and spending time to re-write what needs to be. Just do what they can for 6mo-12mo focusing ONLY on bugs and performance. Don't add anything new. Just all hands-on deck to FIX.
 
I'd like to see them pull another 10.6.
Just take a full update to do nothing but fix bugs, clean up code, do optimizations and refinements. Spend time tweaking and perfecting the already included tools. Not add anything that would take a very minimum amount of work to do. Just focus on the core OS itself and what's already included.
To be frank I'd really like to see MS do the exact same. Take a few update cycles to do NOTHING but fixing open bugs, cleaning up any code that needs it and spending time to re-write what needs to be. Just do what they can for 6mo-12mo focusing ONLY on bugs and performance. Don't add anything new. Just all hands-on deck to FIX.

That will happen when support for x86 is gone and they can strip out all x86 support. Same thing that happened when 10.6 completed the PPC-Intel transition.
 
Is it just me or these updates take forever to show up on M1 macs? On my intel Macs the update shows immediately, the M1’s haven’t found any update. This happens every updated.
 
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I'm curious about the time machine issues others are experiencing. Time Machine seems to be working fine for me. M1 Pro MBP and 2014 Mac mini both on macOS 12.0.1
 
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What issues are they? Glad I didn’t install this new macOS yet.
Time Machine keeps saying it’s Waiting to complete the first backup. I’ve tried to no avail to get it to complete.

Seeing as how other people are experiencing the same issue, I’ve given up trying. I’m assuming it’s a bug and hope it will get fixed by Apple.

There’s a thread here about it.

Edit: and an Apple support thread here.
 
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I'm curious about the time machine issues others are experiencing. Time Machine seems to be working fine for me. M1 Pro MBP and 2014 Mac mini both on macOS 12.0.1
Just curious. If you open boot into Recovery Mode and try to select to restore from a Time Machine backup, does your Time Machine back up show up as a valid source?

Given all the issues, I would suggest you check that it shows up just so you’re not relying on something that isn’t going to work.
 
I'd like to see them pull another 10.6.
Just take a full update to do nothing but fix bugs, clean up code, do optimizations and refinements. Spend time tweaking and perfecting the already included tools. Not add anything that would take a very minimum amount of work to do. Just focus on the core OS itself and what's already included.
To be frank I'd really like to see MS do the exact same. Take a few update cycles to do NOTHING but fixing open bugs, cleaning up any code that needs it and spending time to re-write what needs to be. Just do what they can for 6mo-12mo focusing ONLY on bugs and performance. Don't add anything new. Just all hands-on deck to FIX.

Even Snow Leopard had some pretty serious bugs for the first few versions. Although they don't mention it much anymore, Apple has largely been on a tick-tock release cadence with features/optimizations for a while now. Mavericks, El Capitan, High Sierra, and Catalina were all refinements of the previous versions focusing on performance and clearing out old code rather than on adding new features. In many ways Monterey is this to Big Sur, and in my experience Big Sur was much more responsive than Catalina.
 
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That’s how I felt about the face like emoticons and all the junky message stickers but seems lots of others love those type of features. So perhaps this feature will be widely popular among the average user as well. Not my cup of tea.

I think you’re right about the popularity. Lots of folks watch content together remotely via zoom, for example.

My point is every single user needs a reliable OS. Developers need their API functionality not to be buggy. Apple used to deliver both, it’s why we all loved the Mac. Today, ,this is not the case as updates can’t be trusted until months of bug patches.
 
Fingers crossed it fixes the Time Machine backup issue - still not had a successful backup on my new 14" MacBook Pro as it goes through the motions and appears to be creating the local backup volumes / bundles, but never updates the remote backup on my NAS. From what I've found through my searches it appears to be a Monterey issue with M1.

And that several minute black screen part of the update worries me every time. Was just about to hit the power button when it span the fans up - which I think is the first time I've actually heard them in 2 weeks of ownership! - so I let it continue and eventually it rebooted again and continued with the progress bar.
 
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Just curious. If you open boot into Recovery Mode and try to select to restore from a Time Machine backup, does your Time Machine back up show up as a valid source?

Given all the issues, I would suggest you check that it shows up just so you’re not relying on something that isn’t going to work.
Seems like a restore should be fine... I'm not doubting others are having issues of course, but I didn't have any major issues.

It did take forever to do the first backup (I setup my new MacBook as new instead of restoring from Time Machine.) And by forever I mean days and days maybe a week or two, I forget. This is to a network Time Machine drive connected to another Mac but still I wouldn't expect it to take more than overnight. Two days max.
 

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Animations seem smoother on the M1 MacBook Pro. Especially the System Preferences is very responsive.

Keep in mind I installed Beta 3 from 12.0.1.
 
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