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Apple Seeks Sanctions Against Samsung for Unlawful Use of Apple-Nokia Patent License Terms
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I never said they shouldn't be penalized. The attorney even more so.
Pulling out of negotiations doesn't seem like a remote possibility though - if they need to use patented tech, they need to negotiate, no?
We only have a few data points to judge this but I think this goes farther than just seeing something. To understand the terms you have to read it. If you know it is not for you, you should look away and stop hearing/reading the terms. No matter how you look at it, this looks quiet a bit wrong all over.
No if law has been broken. This is not a patent issue, it is a leak of confidential information, a serious allegation
Apparently not. I don't know in how much trouble Samsung is with this, but Samsung's "outside counsel" is in deep ****. And I mean _deep_.
On the other hand, the correct thing to do if you receive that kind of information from your outside counsel is to stop reading as soon as you realise what you received, and call your company lawyers immediately. Under no circumstances should that information ever have been passed on within Samsung.
Samsung outside counsel, according to the article.
What happens: For some reason Samsung convinced the court that Samsung's lawyers should have access to the information, but Apple also convinced the court that Samsung itself shouldn't. So the info went to lawyers working for Samsung, but not part of Samsung, with very strict orders not to pass it on to anyone within Samsung. That's quite common practice.
The Korean government and courts have clearly emboldened Samsung and other powerful domestic conglomerates to do whatever they want. The only remedy left for companies victimized by their actions will be prolonged litigation in foreign courts.
Most likely Samsung legal counsel, Quinn Emmanuel, needs to withdrawl or be fired.
Dr. Ahn also need to be fired being a bozo actually stating and reciting the confidential agreement
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There was talk of Samsung paying shills since the GS2 launch. Some people got mega buttburt at the notion, but now we know there is a high possibility that Samsung's most dedicated defenders are also on Samsung's payroll.
I am sure you'll find one or two people who could come up with the perfect excuse for this:
"Everyone does it".
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This is old news, and it is mere speculation regarding any Samsung marketing attacks on Apple. However, add things like this to Samsung's apparent efforts to optimize their phones for benchmark software, and one has the impression that Samsung thinks consumers are stupid and they are quite happy to attempt to deceive them. This is not the pattern of behaviour that a company uses to allow the quality of their products to speak for itself.
At any rate this is why so many of us in MR asked for there to be a separate forum for 'Alternatives to iOS/iPhone'. There were many trolling posts attacking Apple that were posted by newbies who wrote in poor English and who gave exaggerated praise for Samsung products. I wonder how much of the Apple 'fanboy' vs Samusng 'fandroid' animosity was actually part of Samsung's marketing strategy, as speculated in the blog. At any rate the tone in alternatives forum seems reasonable now, although people still have disagreements.
Well, Samsung can't do anything if the outside lawyers that they hired are stupid. On the other hand, you can get punished for things that aren't really your fault (because you are to some degree responsible for what your outside lawyers do). I can't quite say where the boundaries are.
However, everyone receiving this data should have _immediately_ called their company lawyers, and the correct thing to happen would be a message to Apple's lawyers like "50 of our employees received this information by mistake, we deleted all copies that we could find including from our backups, and we told all these employees to not tell anyone what they read under any circumstances".
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some days you cannot when all headlines are legal battles.
I am sure you'll find one or two people who could come up with the perfect excuse for this:
"Everyone does it".
/s
You didn't read actually what I posted, right? It is quite common that company A gives highly confidential information to _the lawyers_ of company B, with strict instructions to not pass anything to company B itself. Everyone does it.
The lawyers then passing things on, against strict instructions by the court, that is highly unusual. It's the kind of thing that turns a lawyer into an ex-lawyer.
No - if you're Samsung you just copy it anyway and put a little money away for attorney and judicial fees.
puleeeze. WE DON'T CARE. This stuff is so boring and inconsequential. Patent suits are just an everyday part of business. There is nothing special or interesting about them. Companies use them as weapons and bargaining chips in their quest to make more money for shareholders. It really has nothing to do with the merits of technologies or who invented them etc. It's not an idealogical war between Apple and Samsung. It's just another day at the office. And a boring one, at that.