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Innovation comes from the expenditure of capital, human and otherwise. If I can't ensure getting an adequate return on that investment due to others using my innovation, without compensation, I will not expend those resources. If those resources are not expended, innovation suffers.

Since the beginning of time, Apple has been crying foul about people stealing their IP. Oh, they took this from me. They copied that. If everyone keeps taking stuff from us, we won't make any money, and we won't have any reason to innovate. What's the incentive?

If I were Apple, I'd say in response...

You mean besides being one of the top 5 riches companies in the world? A company that basically sells variations of 8 products? I'd say your attempts to innovate have turned out pretty damn well for you all. Were I a more cynical person, I'd say your attempts to "protect what you've created" by patenting the minutiae of everything you've laid your hands on is really a very transparent attempt at controlling the market by riding your previous innovations into the ground, while not putting in any more hard work.

Trampling on intellectual property rights gives a one-time, short-term boost to innovation as others, who are incapable of innovating, profit for the labor of those creative few. But eventually, the creative few, will pack up their belongs and go tend their own little gardens. And we the public will be left with stale, lagging technology.

I'll tell you the biggest problem with the current patent system. It allows for ideas, concepts, and end results to be patented, not the implementation . I'll give you an example of one of the stupider things I've seen get submitted to the patent office.

Jeff Bezos had this idea for a tablet. It has very little hardware in it. The only thing it has in it is a minuscule amount of ram, and a CPU powerful enough power to accept inputs to send over the internet and drive the display. No harddrive of course. It's cloud based. All content is processed and delivered from the cloud.

...lets disregard the fact that what he's describing is basically a super fancy television. The patent's still pending last I checked.

The real kicker isn't that he's trying to patent an implementation. Just the basic idea. So if someone goes out and builds a working version of this concept, they're infringing on his IP.

And why should that be patented? Everyone has ideas. Ideas are cheap. Concepts are cheap. It's the implementation that's important. If you're allowed to patent basic ideas, then that means NO ONE ELSE CAN MAKE OR IMPROVE UPON IT. Innovation, being the improvement upon established ideas as much as it is new one, dies. Cuz at some point, a bunch of corporations are going to own all the ideas and concepts. What do we do then? Pay these companies exorbitant amounts of money to build working versions of their ideas? Pay them to improve upon their designs?

Good thing this is only a recent problem, because Apple would've been choked to death by IBM before they even got out of the garage.

The only things that should be patentable is implementation. You can think of a steam engine and build it, but only the specific mechanical construction should be your intellectual property. If someone else comes out with a better steam engine than yours, well...too bad. Guess you gotta go back to the drawing board and come up with an even better steam engine than his if you want to keep making money. You can't own the concept of an engine powered by steam, Thomas. Sorry.

And don't even get me started on software patents, which are basically patents for math formulas and specific ways of wording and organizing things.

The whole system needs to be rehauled in a big bad way.

But who is John Galt anyway?

An idiot who's grand idea to take all the inventors up into the mountains to pout and stroke their collective egos would've blown up in his face in about 3 years time.
 
I've used 3 phones in the last 6 months....still have all of them too. Why's that so crazy? I use two of them at a time (work requires an iPhone, and I have the One as my personal phone).

The OP made it clear that he/she uses a new phone and then switches back to an iPhone... and it appears it was actually 19 different phones. The OP did not say that he/she uses an iPhone and another phone at the same time. Although, maybe I am the crazy one... I have used the same for phone for the last two years! ;)
 
Hehe, here's the link

Good headline and good intoxication from Florian Mueller.

Now, you can read what the case is really about and you can see that the judge is not hired by Samsung and he didn't judged against Apple.

Well, if you count judging against Apple being in a panel with three more judges softening a sentence against Apple then yes, he has judged against Apple. By the way, a sentence that has been the same in any country, including USA.
 
Why Apple?

Samsung products are always inferior to Apple products. They will always be one step behind you guys.
What is the point of suing them? Can't you focus on making your products better and stop fearing that Samsung would overtake you guys.

Obviously your presumption has no takers in Apple.

Apple is obviously fearing Samsung and obviously Apple feels Samsung does not produce inferior products....
 
Good headline and good intoxication from Florian Mueller.

Now, you can read what the case is really about and you can see that the judge is not hired by Samsung and he didn't judged against Apple.

Well, if you count judging against Apple being in a panel with three more judges softening a sentence against Apple then yes, he has judged against Apple. By the way, a sentence that has been the same in any country, including USA.

I'll agree that the article's title is a bit more biased than the rest of the content. Regardless, that's not my idea of an unbiased judge. Especially, if you notice one of the later paragraphs:

"Mueller himself has found himself embroiled in a somewhat similar situation, having served as consultant to Oracle (as well as Microsoft) while also writing about the patent battle between Oracle and Google."


Now, I can't help it but notice a pattern here.
 
I'll agree that the article's title is a bit more biased than the rest of the content. Regardless, that's not my idea of an unbiased judge.

Why he is not unbiased? Are you accusing the other FOUR judges if biased?

Especially, if you notice one of the later paragraphs:

"Mueller himself has found himself embroiled in a somewhat similar situation, having served as consultant to Oracle (as well as Microsoft) while also writing about the patent battle between Oracle and Google."


Now, I can't help it but notice a pattern here.


What pattern?
 
Apple Seeks to Add Samsung Galaxy S4 to U.S. Patent Lawsuit.
or
Apple publicly admits that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is a threat to the iPhone
 
Sorry - but you apparently don't know much about technology based on your comment above.

It's not just battery life and/or size. It's about the actual technology and whether or not a 5" screen back in 2007 was cost-"effective" (IE - wouldn't blow up the price for the consumer to the tunes of hundreds).

Did I say that it's only about the battery size? The poster said that the battery life would be abysmal in 2007, which is incorrect. Battery tech hasn't really advanced since 2007 and today a 5" screen phone has more or less the same battery life as a 3.5" screen phone. I was only arguing about the battery life part.
 
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I am so sick of Apple and their patent trolling!

There is no way that the Galaxy S4 infringes on any of Apple's patents. It's so far ahead of the iphone 5 its ridiculous.
 
Take a look at how baseball gloves changed through the years. They used to be smaller.



Great analogy (sarcasm)

Take a look at how the size of steering wheels changed over the years, oh wait, they didn't, because they are dependant on the length of the human arm.
 
Did I say that it's only about the battery size? The poster said that the battery life would be abysmal in 2007, which is incorrect. Battery tech hasn't really advanced since 2007 and today a 5" screen phone has more or less the same battery life as a 3.5" screen phone. I was only arguing about the battery life part, if you bothered to read what I wrote.

Battery life might not have changed. But screen technology has. So again - you can't say that in 2007 - a battery would have been able to run a 2007 5" screen. Or do you have a time machine and can verify that for us?
 
Battery life might not have changed. But screen technology has. So again - you can't say that in 2007 - a battery would have been able to run a 2007 5" screen. Or do you have a time machine and can verify that for us?

Being able to run a 5" screen depends mostly on the amount of pixels you want, because the GPU will be doing the rendering. In 2007, if you wanted a retina resolution screen on a 5" device, that wouldn't have been feasible since there was no mobile GPU that could drive that many pixels at a reasonable framerate. But if the screen size is your only fixed parameter, then you could have made a 5" screen at the same resolution of a 3.5" nonretina screen, which would have been driven by the same GPU on the original iPhone at a decent framerate.

Simply look at the iPad tech to see how it works. The first 2 iPads had 25Whr batteries, and basically all components except the screen were different. (Different CPU GPU etc). But the exact same battery gave you more or less the exact same usage time. iPad 3 and iPad 4 have a 42.5Whr battery to give you the same usage time, due to increased screen resolution (same size screen but 4 times as much resolution required almost twice as bigger battery). So the key factor was resolution. Sure size is an issue as well since you need more backlighting to light up a bigger screen but like I said, you can put a bigger battery when you have a bigger case, so size has advantages for battery life as much as disadvantages.

Also, I'd love to see you respond to that poster in the same attitude as you respond to me, because he doesn't have a time machine either (I bet).
 
You'll be back... we ALL come back.

Yes... I was an owner of these phones in this order...

iPhone

iPhone 3G

T-Mobile G1

iPhone 3G

iPhone 3GS

Moto Droid

iPhone 3G

Nexus One

iPhone 3GS

iPhone 4

Galaxy S II

iPhone 4

iPhone 4S

Galaxy Nexus

Galaxy S III

iPhone 5

Note II

HTC One

and now currently...

iPhone 5.

Yes... you will be back. They ALL COME BACK!

Well considering you changed your phone four times in less then a year, I'd say you don't know what you want?

Anyway.....

Samsung may just as well automatically add all its devices to the Apples lawsuit. And I can't find anywhere the reason Apple has for adding the S4? It all seems, well that new S4 is going to take our sales so let's add it to our lawsuit! Both sides are pathetic but Apple the most as they should have stopped at the S2, but no they just want to remove their competition anyway they can.

IOS7 better be a friggin revolution!
 
Being able to run a 5" screen depends mostly on the amount of pixels you want, because the GPU will be doing the rendering. In 2007, if you wanted a retina resolution screen on a 5" device, that wouldn't have been feasible since there was no mobile GPU that could drive that many pixels at a reasonable framerate. But if the screen size is your only fixed parameter, then you could have made a 5" screen at the same resolution of a 3.5" nonretina screen, which would have been driven by the same GPU on the original iPhone at a decent framerate.

Simply look at the iPad tech to see how it works. The first 2 iPads had 25Whr batteries, and basically all components except the screen were different. (Different CPU GPU etc). But the exact same battery gave you more or less the exact same usage time. iPad 3 and iPad 4 have a 42.5Whr battery to give you the same usage time, due to increased screen resolution (same size screen but 4 times as much resolution required almost twice as bigger battery). So the key factor was resolution. Sure size is an issue as well since you need more backlighting to light up a bigger screen but like I said, you can put a bigger battery when you have a bigger case, so size has advantages for battery life as much as disadvantages.

Also, I'd love to see you respond to that poster in the same attitude as you respond to me, because he doesn't have a time machine either (I bet).

You're the one that told him he was completely wrong. As if it were fact.

He stated "In 2007 the battery on a 5' screen phone would last an hour, the phone would cost $2000 and graphics would be extremely slow."

You already admit graphics would be slow as chips in 2007 driving a 5" phone would suffer performance wise, no? Cost? Can't say $2000 definitively - but it would definitely be more expensive - and likely cost prohibitive unless the screen was utter garbage. In which case - why bother.
 
You're the one that told him he was completely wrong. As if it were fact.

And where did he state anywhere in his post that what he's saying is only his opinion? His attitude was no different than mine. He stated things as they were facts as well. And I didn't see any harsh replies from you to his post.

He stated "In 2007 the battery on a 5' screen phone would last an hour, the phone would cost $2000 and graphics would be extremely slow."

You already admit graphics would be slow as chips in 2007 driving a 5" phone would suffer performance wise, no?
No I don't? I said only if the screen resolution is the same as today's retina 5" screens. If the screen was the same resolution as 2007's 3.5" screens, then there wouldn't be any performance hit. So what he said is wrong since he didn't say anything about resolution. And nobody in 2007 would have wanted a retina resolution device since there were no retina mobile screens of any size.

Cost? Can't say $2000 definitively - but it would definitely be more expensive - and likely cost prohibitive unless the screen was utter garbage. In which case - why bother.

I have no idea about the cost. Actually a 5" screen at the same resolution as the original iPhone could have been cheaper than the 3.5" one since it'd have a lower PPI.

Edit: First gen iPad's display costs 95$ and the iPhone 4 display costs 44$. They are the same resolution of same year, one is 9 times bigger and costs twice as much. I know things aren't linear in tech, but with a linear increase a 5" display at the same resolution of the original iPhone, which had a 19$ display, would have a 30$ display. But true, this is a very rough estimate.
 
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And where did he state anywhere in his post that what he's saying is only his opinion? His attitude was no different than mine. He stated things as they were facts as well. And I didn't see any harsh replies from you to his post.


No I don't? I said only if the screen resolution is the same as today's retina 5" screens. If the screen was the same resolution as 2007's 3.5" screens, then there wouldn't be any performance hit. So what he said is wrong since he didn't say anything about resolution. And nobody in 2007 would have wanted a retina resolution device since there were no retina mobile screens of any size.



I have no idea about the cost. Actually a 5" screen at the same resolution as the original iPhone could have been cheaper than the 3.5" one since it'd have a lower PPI.

Edit: First gen iPad's display costs 95$ and the iPhone 4 display costs 44$. They are the same resolution of same year, one is 9 times bigger and costs twice as much. I know things aren't linear in tech, but with a linear increase a 5" display at the same resolution of the original iPhone, which had a 19$ display, would have a 30$ display. But true, this is a very rough estimate.

You simply can't state the above without a time machine. Or having been in the industry and having first hand knowledge as to costs and efficiencies. You can conjecture all you want.

And I didn't give him the same attitude because I agree with him and think his comments have more validity than yours having been in the tech world for over a decade. Not just a consumer. But IN the tech world. That and - what rule is it that anyone has to treat everyone equally on a message board?

Have a great day.
 
You simply can't state the above without a time machine. Or having been in the industry and having first hand knowledge as to costs and efficiencies. You can conjecture all you want.

And I didn't give him the same attitude because I agree with him and think his comments have more validity than yours having been in the tech world for over a decade. Not just a consumer. But IN the tech world.

Have a great day.

So the attitude has nothing to do with it, since we both stated things as facts, and you only reply to me because you agree with him, even though he does not have a time machine either and stated things as facts. So you don't have any issue with people conjecturing without actual proof, yet you accused me for exactly that. Fine, I can't expect people to be consistent.

And how do you know that I'm just a consumer? And how does "being in tech world" makes any difference unless your area is exactly manufacturing costs of displays? Any developer would be technically someone in the tech world yet would have no clue about this issue including many people working for Apple. Are you working for a display manufacturer? If so, fine. Give me some details which I can't google myself about the manufacturing costs about different display sizes of 2007.


Otherwise, you have no more clue than anyone of us whether or not you are in the tech world.
 
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