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Apple Seeks to Gain Control of iPhone5.com Domain
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It's just a simple way to redirect traffic that tries that address, and, more importantly, to prevent other sites from poaching off the name and making money with redirects to porn or other shady links.
It may seem like a good idea, but can end up costing a lot of money. There is no way that a judge wouldn't rule that the registration was in bad faith if it goes to court, as long as it happened after the iPhone became successful, and especially if you ask Apple for money.
Reposting because of extreme relavance in this case.
Besides the business issues of customers confused by the ownership of these sites, Apple has to protect its trademarks. The law is very clear on this, you either protect the mark or loose control of it.
Even if that isn't the case here, these registered names can be sold off to whomever. This has already happened with Porn sites but the potential is for far worst to gain control of the address. Think political parties like the democrats, Apple doesn't want to be associated with complete lunacy.
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They do what they have to do to protect their ability to trademark and market their product. It has nothing to do with being a bully.
Besides the business issues of customers confused by the ownership of these sites, Apple has to protect its trademarks. The law is very clear on this, you either protect the mark or loose control of it.
Even if that isn't the case here, these registered names can be sold off to whomever. This has already happened with Porn sites but the potential is for far worst to gain control of the address. Think political parties like the democrats, Apple doesn't want to be associated with complete lunacy.
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They do what they have to do to protect their ability to trademark and market their product. It has nothing to do with being a bully.
Apple is such a big corporate bully!
It has the money and legal clout to do whatever it likes...trampling over anyone who they perceive as a miniscule threat or just because "they can".
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because they hold a trademark on iPhone and they are the only ones that can use it. That is so long as they defend that right. Given that this is a site about Apple's product there's no way the owners can claim their use of the term iPhone is about anything else. So legally Apple needs to make this attempt
Ahh speculation on iPhone5 feature list
Apple may or may not change the glass back but I have to say it is no where near as fragile as you imply.
If you are one of those idiots wearing his phone on his belt, to enhance self importance, then screw you.
In any event Apple really does have some screwed up concepts with respect to file handling in iOS right now. The way Photos, Camera and iPhotos handle pics is terribly screwed up and lead to excessive user frustration. In fact I'm surprised that Apple has screwed this up so badly. They really should be ashamed of themselves.
Actually I would like that as long as the iPhone doesn't get to much bigger.
OLED sadly still suck. As to readability outdoors brighter backlighting will take care of that.
So have you actually broken one of these backs? The fact is my iPhone 4, with it's glass back, has outlasted my 3G's back.
Apple may or may not change the glass back but I have to say it is no where near as fragile as you imply.
A given.
HDMI, you are kidding right? Most likely Apple will go with vastly different technology if they replace the dock connector at all. Think Thunderbolt here. Ideally they need a more open attititude to app access to the port also.
and what good would that do?
Nobody will argue against longer battery life but 2 days is wishful thinking right now.
That should be a high priority for Apple.
Patent issues have caused a problem for Apple here.
That will never happen.
Well in an open world that might be nice. The problem is how do you think Apple would be able to convince the platform owners to build in this support.
A feature that causes more problems than it solves.
There remains many syncing & iCloud issues that need to be resolved, it isn't just WiFi.
What good would that be. Seriously if you have to remove the phone from your pocket you can press the home button before you even have your hand out of the pocket. That should light up the screen for you.
If you are one of those idiots wearing his phone on his belt, to enhance self importance, then screw you.
FaceTime?
This is one of those things that at first I have to reject and then realize there is considerable potential here. This would only be acceptable if unrestricted developer access was allowed.
That would be nice in one sense, but it would open huge liability issues for Apple. Think about it only one kid crashIng an Airplane wold cost Apple billions.
Well not in the base model! The idea isn't bad but many won't want to pay for it. This is actually one reason why I think Apple really needs two or there different phones to market.
You mean their isn't an app for that already.
Well yes and no. What Apple is doing now isn't good enough so I have to agree that some sort of access is needed. However we don't need Finder / file browser like access seen in desktop systems nor do we need to loose security.
In any event Apple really does have some screwed up concepts with respect to file handling in iOS right now. The way Photos, Camera and iPhotos handle pics is terribly screwed up and lead to excessive user frustration. In fact I'm surprised that Apple has screwed this up so badly. They really should be ashamed of themselves.
I can sort of take it or leave it here. Done right this could be very useful.
I suspect some are being considered but many of your wants will likely never come to pass.
Apple broke the back of the artificial features mindset. What makes iPhone compelling is the operating system and the extreme flexibility it offers users. Few if any of the above mentioned features will drive sales.
I don't know if you've noticed this about Apple, but they tend to focus on making real changes, that really improve the experience of using the product, as opposed to fluff changes. You have some real changes listed, but a bunch of them are fluff.
Having said that, once in a while I go camping with my iPhone. I bring an external battery pack to charge it at night during those trips.
This wouldn't be fluff, so much as you're looking the wrong way. Apple is adopting Thunderbolt, not USB 3.0, as the successor to USB 2.0.
There's nothing stopping you for going out and buying your own stylus for your iPhone. As it is, however, a stylus is downright silly. As Jobs put it, you're born with 10 that you've grown up using, why do you need an 11th?
The ball is in Microsoft/Netflix's court on this one. Apple has already made AirPlay, and some 3rd party manufacturers integrate support into their devices. Neither the Xbox nor Roku support AirPlay because that would strengthen iTunes stranglehold over videos* and music, something neither Microsoft nor Netflix want.
*Far from a stranglehold, but still, it weasels some market from Netflix to Apple. Something Netflix definitely isn't interested in.
You want an LED for the sole purpose of indicating missed calls? Just hit the hold or home button and it'll tell you right on the home screen... this request is just silly.
If you want something in Apple's ecosystem, use FaceTime. If you want to break out of it, use Skype, or any other VOIP app.
The ratio of the number of times I've seen a laser pointer used properly to the number of times I've seen one used to just irritate me says please don't include one...
How on earth does that help? Apple provides developers with many ways of having their apps share files with other apps. Why would the developer ever need direct access to the files?
Why? What exactly does this change or improve? If you really care about audio quality for a game or movie, you'll be using headphones.
Why? The battery lasts about as long as your body does. At some point, you have to lie down and go to sleep. When you go to sleep, plug your phone in. It's easier to get into this routine of nightly putting it on the charger then putting it on the charger once every few days. Getting into the nightly charging routine means that when you get up, your phone is fully charged. You'll never wake up in the morning, glance at your phone and realize it's at 10% while you're heading out the door.
Having said that, once in a while I go camping with my iPhone. I bring an external battery pack to charge it at night during those trips.
This wouldn't be fluff, so much as you're looking the wrong way. Apple is adopting Thunderbolt, not USB 3.0, as the successor to USB 2.0.
There's nothing stopping you for going out and buying your own stylus for your iPhone. As it is, however, a stylus is downright silly. As Jobs put it, you're born with 10 that you've grown up using, why do you need an 11th?
The ball is in Microsoft/Netflix's court on this one. Apple has already made AirPlay, and some 3rd party manufacturers integrate support into their devices. Neither the Xbox nor Roku support AirPlay because that would strengthen iTunes stranglehold over videos* and music, something neither Microsoft nor Netflix want.
*Far from a stranglehold, but still, it weasels some market from Netflix to Apple. Something Netflix definitely isn't interested in.
You want an LED for the sole purpose of indicating missed calls? Just hit the hold or home button and it'll tell you right on the home screen... this request is just silly.
If you want something in Apple's ecosystem, use FaceTime. If you want to break out of it, use Skype, or any other VOIP app.
The ratio of the number of times I've seen a laser pointer used properly to the number of times I've seen one used to just irritate me says please don't include one...
How on earth does that help? Apple provides developers with many ways of having their apps share files with other apps. Why would the developer ever need direct access to the files?
It will be a great loss if the iphone5 site goes and we lose all 3 of the threads in the general forum. A sad day indeed
Is a bit ridiculous though, say I made a website called iphoneu.com as in I phone you, and setup some VoIP site or something, then 5 years down the line apple creates an iPhoneU powered by Uranium, I'm shafted
Is a bit ridiculous though, say I made a website called iphoneu.com as in I phone you, and setup some VoIP site or something, then 5 years down the line apple creates an iPhoneU powered by Uranium, I'm shafted
That's not how these things work.
4 + 1 = 5, we've already covered the fact that Joe Schmoe doesn't know that this is the sixth generation iPhone, only nerds.
This is good news for consumers who don't want official looking domains pointing to unofficial websites.
I understand why Apple would want control over the domain, but I think it's wrong to use organisations like WIPO to steal it off the owner of the domain.
Now, I know some of you will waffle on about trademark protection and other such stuff, but what if iphone.com actually had nothing to do with the phrase "iPhone"? What if it was for "Ip Ho Ne"?
In any case I don't see why Apple can't just buy the domain. Then again, they only have $100 billion in the bank...
Now, I know some of you will waffle on about trademark protection and other such stuff, but what if iphone.com actually had nothing to do with the phrase "iPhone"? What if it was for "Ip Ho Ne"?
In any case I don't see why Apple can't just buy the domain. Then again, they only have $100 billion in the bank...
The only way that would happen is if you actually used the brinding "iPhoneU" instead of "IphoneU" or something similar.
Didn't you answer your own question?
I think this is the first time I have heard anyone on the Internet argue for shorter battery life on any device.
I dislike slow news weekends. And pretty much every weekend is slow on them...
Pity, when I got the most time on my hands there's nothing going on to dive into and when I go to MR I freak out looking at the unspeakable amount of new stories...
(except Mac Pro stories!)
Glassed Silver:mac
Pity, when I got the most time on my hands there's nothing going on to dive into and when I go to MR I freak out looking at the unspeakable amount of new stories...
(except Mac Pro stories!
)Glassed Silver:mac
I'm not arguing for a shorter battery life than the current iPhones, just shorter than "multi-day". Until devices can charge over the air, I think a battery that lasts 16 hours on a full charge is perfect.
(Once charging happens over the air, people won't need to get in the habit of charging their phone each night.)
Go back to spectating..no ghetto phones around here.
Funny how you go back behind the skirting board after seeding an off-topic post...
'laser pointer'... Look mom a whacky Apple laser pointer!!!
That big red Thunderbirds LED at the top of the phone will surely tell you of that missed call! Yikes!
Yes, with the Android market of 300+ different phones you should find what you need...
Funny how you go back behind the skirting board after seeding an off-topic post...
'laser pointer'... Look mom a whacky Apple laser pointer!!!
That big red Thunderbirds LED at the top of the phone will surely tell you of that missed call! Yikes!
Yes, with the Android market of 300+ different phones you should find what you need...
Time to pay up, or did we change the rules for eminent domain for the internet to be only for large companies.
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When did Apple or any large billion dollar company become the only ones that matter online. iPhone5 is not a trademark its just a description if not how long before we run out of words because of copyrighted madness.
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Because its about scaring the next domain they want. Its all about fear and having some small owner have to go to court and pay out 10 of thousand if not more is in the best interest of Apple and other companies like them. I bet if it was IBM who had the iphone5 we would not even be discussing this ever.
Fear is its own reward.
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Wrong if the entity suing you has the money they will take you to the cleaners and you will pay and pay till you give up. For Apple its all a right off as it should be. Power is its own reward so yes he could loose his URL still, not likely but still possible.
http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/08/generic-domains-owned-by-large-corporations/
http://articles.bplans.com/running-...e-business/domain-names-and-trademark-law/200
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When did Apple or any large billion dollar company become the only ones that matter online. iPhone5 is not a trademark its just a description if not how long before we run out of words because of copyrighted madness.
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Because its about scaring the next domain they want. Its all about fear and having some small owner have to go to court and pay out 10 of thousand if not more is in the best interest of Apple and other companies like them. I bet if it was IBM who had the iphone5 we would not even be discussing this ever.
Fear is its own reward.
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Wrong if the entity suing you has the money they will take you to the cleaners and you will pay and pay till you give up. For Apple its all a right off as it should be. Power is its own reward so yes he could loose his URL still, not likely but still possible.
http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/08/generic-domains-owned-by-large-corporations/
http://articles.bplans.com/running-...e-business/domain-names-and-trademark-law/200
Time to pay up, or did we change the rules for eminent domain for the internet to be only for large companies.
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When did Apple or any large billion dollar company become the only ones that matter online. iPhone5 is not a trademark its just a description if not how long before we run out of words because of copyrighted madness.
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Because its about scaring the next domain they want. Its all about fear and having some small owner have to go to court and pay out 10 of thousand if not more is in the best interest of Apple and other companies like them. I bet if it was IBM who had the iphone5 we would not even be discussing this ever.
Fear is its own reward.
If you don't actively protect your intellectual property in court, you will end up loosing the right later on.
People are trying to make money off of companies and products that spent millions/billions of dollars and often decades of time developing.
I remember in the past when people would buy domain names based off popular companies/products/celebrities/movies ect. only to sell it to the same companies for thousands of dollars.
Not so much anymore with new laws coming into effect.
Want to make money? Spend your own time and money making your own products & services instead of leeching off of someone else.
http://m.techcrunch.com/2011/11/23/google-goes-after-youtube-domain-typo-squatter/
What??? Google does this to??? Wow, i thought only the evil companies like apple do this!!!
More childish hate for Apple from the Android users here...nothing to see here.
Lemme guess, Apple takes it to the extreme....right?
What??? Google does this to??? Wow, i thought only the evil companies like apple do this!!!
More childish hate for Apple from the Android users here...nothing to see here.
Lemme guess, Apple takes it to the extreme....right?
Apple has been producing iPhones for several years. This site, iPhone5.com, is actually a discussion site about iPhones, which means that the name was most definitely picked exactly because Apple builds a phone and calls it "iPhone", and because these guys expected that Apple would call the next iPhone model "iPhone 5".
Now I find it a bit annoying that you use the term "waffle" for people mentioning trademark protection. You seem to insinuate that these people don't know what they are talking about. Quite the opposite. The name "iPhone" _is_ indeed protected by a trademark. Which means nobody but Apple can use "iPhone" in the area of mobile phones - which is exactly what this site does. Now if that web site had nothing to do with iPhones and didn't use the name "iPhone5" with the intent to get visits from people looking for information about new iPhones, then things might be different. But that's not the case, so you are engaging in some rather pointless what-ifs.
With all that said, why should Apple buy the domain name? And how much should they pay in your opinion? And who would decide the amount? What if Samsung had bought the name "iPhone5.com", or Apple had bought "www.galaxy.whatever.com"?
Just to make this clear: In the case you quote, Google looks to be even more justified than Apple is, because they are acting against a purely despicable domain squatter.
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