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Can we talk about computers again?

What do you think the iPhone is?

Seriously, it has far more computing power in it than several generations of Macs. It connects to the Internet. It runs applications. It sends and receives email. It manages personal contacts. It plays games.

It is a computer.

And it is the future of computing (or at least, the approach of increased capability and mobility in computing devices is). Apple is very savvy to push this direction.
 
What do you think the iPhone is?

Seriously, it has far more computing power in it than several generations of Macs. It connects to the Internet. It runs applications. It sends and receives email. It manages personal contacts. It plays games.

It is a computer.

And it is the future of computing (or at least, the approach of increased capability and mobility in computing devices is). Apple is very savvy to push this direction.

I agree. I'm just not sure how it will end. I guess AI and Terminator style crap might be our future :D
Good I won't be around when that happens as we're gonna get owned big time.
 
Wonder how many have yellow screens or still won't activate? Wonder how many existing users that registered their early interest still can't get one?

Impressive figures to be sure, aside from that, the whole thing has been a resounding disaster.

It really wasn't a resounding disaster, it was more like 50 people with defective screens [the rest were all just set to a different colour profile to be more accurate] and the other million people have perfectly fine iPhones. You're going to hear more about the complainers because MacRumours can be an echo chamber, a few people get a dud, then MacRumours reports on it, then AppleInsider does, then every other Mac site and it gets blown out of proportion. People hold expectations way too high with Apple, Apple isn't perfect, nor is any other company and any new product refresh is going to have problems no matter who releases it or how much they test it.


I think it's been a resounding success and I think Apple handled it extremely well, they did better then most companies would. You think Nokia would put up with what Apple did? I don't. Apple released a server straining service today [mobile me] and had millions of people activating their phones, they pulled it off if you ask me. They had the *same* problems last year, people just had them in their house instead of in line.


I'm very happy with the turnout and I can't wait to get my iPhone!
 
I haven't read through all 8 pages so...

Surely the reason they reached 1 million so quick this time is purely down to the fact that this launch had more countries involved compared to gen 1 :)
 
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I haven't read through all 8 pages so...

Surely the reason they reached 1 million so quick this time is purely down to the fact that this launch had more countries involved compared to gen 1 :)

Don't let the facts cloud marketing! :p
 
That's just insane - I read that some 02 stores were selling 40 iPhones per hour which is more than they usually sell in an entire day

I doubt they even had that many in stock! Its was a farce.

I read it on 9to5mac.com
Apple's UK network partner O2 last week told Macworld UK: "Demand is really high. In some of our stores we have been selling 40 iPhones an hour - the same level of sales those stores usually do in a day."
 
Really amazing turnout for Apple, if I had the spare cash I would be walking around with one myself. I did upgrade to the 2.0 firmware. I will probably be stuck with this phone for at least another 6 months.
 
Don't let the facts cloud marketing! :p

True, I think there are distorted figure here. Specifically if that number is sold to retail or actual sell-through to customers. Whatever, it must be a large percentage given most places seem to have sold out.

It's still plastic though :(
 
I know, but you can't say that "Friday is one day after Friday", can you? :)

Technically you can, given the Aussies & Kiwis were getting there phones on what was Thursday in the USA, so from a US perspective there were actually 4 selling days through till end of Sunday.
 
True, so really we can say Apple underestimated demand and isn't producing enough units. They probably need to have produced 3 or 4 million iPhones to truly meet demand. Which is pretty impressive. Hopefully they should keep pace, with about 2-3 million phones sold a month till the end of the year. Then release the 32GB model for a boost till June timeframe. New iPhone then, rinse and repeat.

Is it just me, or are people just intent on slamming Apple because units sold out in some places? Apple sold 1m units in the first weekend. Period. Some places sold out (due to limited supply) and others did not. A majority of the units went to the USA. Reason? The USA makes up the largest population of the countries receiving iPhones on July 11. If Apple sold 1m units (even if some were on backorder) AND there are still units available in some areas, that means AT LEAST 1 million units were available for sale before the product was launched. I don't think even Apple expected the sellout they got in the first weekend (not to say they didn't hope for it).

If Apple had decided to delay the launch further until more units could be in each place, then everyone would have been ripping Apple for delaying the launch. How quickly do you think a company can manufacture 10,000,000 units? Instantly? A week? A month? Why not just enjoy the fact that the new iPhone 3G is shipping and selling at an extreme rate, even if it means waiting for yours a bit longer. The more iPhones that are out there, the more developers will design incredible apps to use on it. And THAT is a good thing.

I personally won't cry about getting mine in a month or two after the initial hype has worn off. My wait will be short, my activation will be fast and smooth, and more apps will be available for me to choose from. But then, i'm not completely nuts!! ;)

... or maybe I am. LOL
 
They do have the incentive, the 30% cut from the paid applications, and the bigger the ecosystem the more phones they'll sell.

But there's no guarantee that apple would make enough to cover the costs of testing on any given application. There's no question there will be a number of apps that sell practically nothing. I agree with the second point, but the question is whether the boost to the ecosystem makes enough money for apple to cover the costs of testing apps. I'm skeptical that it would be worth it.

Yes, don't get me wrong. It still is a success. I just think how Steve Jobs worded it - it is misleading.

What specifically was misleading?
 
I read it on 9to5mac.com
Apple's UK network partner O2 last week told Macworld UK: "Demand is really high. In some of our stores we have been selling 40 iPhones an hour - the same level of sales those stores usually do in a day."

Well, quite. That is probably an extrapolated rate - the quotation should more credibly have read: "Demand is really high. In some of our stores we have been selling out of our total supply of 20 iPhones within 30 minutes - the same level of sales those stores usually do in a day."
 
I'm waiting for Rogers to say something along the times of:

"iPhone has been an overwhelming success in Canada and sold out in all our and Fido stores. This shows it was a vocal minority that complained about our affordable iPhone contracts"

This, despite:

1. Apple not selling iPhones in their stores
2. Rogers iPhone stocks severely limited

You wait, Rogers will spin it to their advantage.

Item (2) is not very well known to the public - that Apple revolted against Rogers and will turn this into their advantage.
 
I'm still a bit wary about the App Store.

If sales figures continue to be healthy (and I believe they will), then we're likely to see a LOT more large and small developers flock to the platform. Apple simply doesn't have the resources (or rather, doesn't want to devote the resources) to test and vet all the apps going up on the App Store.

I think at some point, they're either going to limit those who can submit apps (boooh!), throw everything up on the App Store without testing (not really an option), or allow people to distribute apps directly via the web.

I doubt that will happen, it's normally up to the developer to test the application either by them selves or outsourcing it, and if Apple do the testing the same as other carriers and phone companies, they'll do a simple certification check that takes about 4 hours at the most. It either passes or fails, if it fails the devs have to fix it before it will get released.

Bear in mind that other phone companies and carriers won't do full QA testing on applications, they'll just test it to make sure that it doesn't break the phone, and test it to make sure that the phone still functions as a phone.

And if you think about it if a dev releases a broken app, how long will it take for people to be aware of it and tell everyone else?
 
Taking the 3G plunge

Well, I've been absorbing all of the feedback, good and bad, on the new iPhone over the past weeks (both rumors and, now, hands-on experience). I'm taking a deep breath, relinquishing my iPod Touch and diving headfirst into iPhone ownership in a few days. I'll be happy to post my experiences, and how they relate to my extensive use of the Touch.
 

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Wonder how many have yellow screens or still won't activate?
Impressive figures to be sure, aside from that, the whole thing has been a resounding disaster.

Since the activation problems were a server issue,and the servers have been up since Friday afternoon,I'd say Zero.

Extreme cockup and embarrassment,but disaster?A little strong.
 
sigh

:eek: sigh.

Ok the macphone has been released
(Opps meant iphone, but it might as well be a macphone :p)
App store released
MobileMe released
Snow Leopard will be in about a year
No date on the new mini's and my wife needs one bad (may just have to buy what is selling now).
Still ongoing rumors about an aluminum macbook or revamp macbook pro.

Although if the iphone is any indication, stick with plastic for better wifi

Looks like it will be hum drum until January, nothing to really look forward to right now.....
 
agreed

Well, loyalists so think because he is NOT doing wrong AT ALL. The iPhone 3G launch is the most successful launch of any portable phone in history, and represents the launch of a telephone that has revolutionized the whole market, sending seismic waves to those dinosaur competitors such as Nokia and Siemens.

In a nutshell, what do we have then?

- Macs growing at 3x the rate of the industry, and being already the leaders of the higher-end consumer market, without ANY compromises in terms of overall quality, reliability and design;
- iPods with an astounding lead in the music player market, with iTMS just mirroring that;
- the iPhone quickly to become the leader of the smartphone market in the world.

So what is he doing wrong? NOTHING. He is the best and most successful CEO of the world now, and by far the best CEO Apple has ever had.

And, of course: MICROSOFT IS DEAD with its ridiculous Windows Mobile.

I completely agree with everything said. Can't deny the facts

*** An iPhone in every hand ***
 
zomg!

my upgrade eligibility kicks in on the 23rd.. sooo excited!! can't wait!!!!:D

but ya, wow, 1M iphones. that's a big number:p
 
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