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I'm wondering what time I'll have to go to my local AT&T store to get a good spot. Idk how crazy or dedicated the people are around here...hopefully 9 o'clock the night before should be ok!
 
But the Android fanboys said the screen sucked and it wouldn't sail...errr...sell. ;) :eek: :rolleyes: Bought one myself. 16GB Black. Haters gonna hate. GO APPLE. :D
 
Just out of curiosity, did anyone find that their original "discount upgrade price" date got changed for the better at the last minute? Yesterday (Thursday) both Apple and AT&T were showing 11/25 as my discount upgrade eligibility date, but this morning at around 8am when I checked both sites, they BOTH had been changed to eligible right now! Sweeeet. Needless to say, I ordered my 64GB right away. :D
 
why do they not make more than enough? surely this phone is not that damn difficult to make since basically it's the same damn design as the last...do they just like the sound of "sold out"?
 
Can we still buy one in the store on launch day? (Assuming we stand in line, of course.)

in theory yes.

they always set aside a particular number of each model for pre-orders, the rest go to the stores.

so if you are within the first X that want the whatever model, you are good.

I'm going to be on a set all that weekend so I couldn't preorder because my apartment isn't safe for deliveries. and I can't go stand in line. But i'm thinking I'd rather have an unlocked one since I have a gig in OZ next month, another in France in January etc. Better to be able to go local sim and save on roaming fees.
 
Nobody wants this phone. They will never sell. There won't be any lines. No website crashes. It is such a disappointment. The entire world is going to wait for the iPhone 5, which I predict Apple will be forced to release in January or face bankruptcy.

Wait, what? How many?

I love this phone. It is the best phone ever. Let me tell you the top 999 thousand reasons why you should buy the iPhone 4s. I always knew this would be the best selling iPhone ever.
 
Can we still buy one in the store on launch day? (Assuming we stand in line, of course.)

I haven't seen anything about buying in the stores, but perhaps that's a given. No sure.
Clearly, Apple allocates its available launch inventory by channel.

They tell AT&T "you get 300,000 units at launch, the next shipment of 100,000 might be two weeks out. You figure out how you want to sell these."

Apple wants to book pre-orders, but also wants the "buzz" of the availability of iPhones at their retail bricks-and-mortar stores each day. There is a significant population of consumers who actually want to touch the device before they make their purchase decision.

Google didn't get this and they stumbled badly with their online-only retail strategy for the original Nexus smartphone. They bungled telesales, live customer service and a multitude of other details that true retailers know make a big difference.
 
That's tremendous! Despite it's "disappointing" premiere, it's doing quite good.

I still want a larger screen however (satisfied with the hardware upgrades...still dreaming about a 720p 4" iPhone with epic PPI)...
 
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Pre-ordered min earlier today!!
I ordered 2 white 16gig for me and my wife!
I too wanted a redesigned iPhone but I really liked all the new features specially the camera and icloud.
Siri just seems like the cherry to top it off.
People said this phone was a flop but NUMBERS NEVER LIE....
 
why do they not make more than enough? surely this phone is not that damn difficult to make since basically it's the same damn design as the last...do they just like the sound of "sold out"?

Trollers gonna troll

but to feed him, "if" they made 200k per vendor and 200k for retail. 800k is a **** ton of phones. Doubt it's that many but it has to be close.

Either way, 2 white's will be delivered at the office next friday. Oh Siri where have you been all my life?
 
Impressive.

I just hope I can get a phone in November.
Pre-order now. (Assuming the system is still taking pre-orders.)

You'll still get it earlier than waiting a few weeks then trying to order. You can always try that online store/bricks-and-mortar store dance, but usually you can cancel your online order if for some reason you acquire a unit at a B&M store first.

But based on your post, it seems like you would be willing to pre-order online, then forget about it until it shows up.

In a way, I'm in a similar situation. I'd love to place an online pre-order for a factory-unlocked 64GB iPhone 4S, then forget about it and carry on about my business until it ships sometime in November. But Apple isn't accepting unlocked handset pre-orders.
 
why do they not make more than enough? surely this phone is not that damn difficult to make since basically it's the same damn design as the last...do they just like the sound of "sold out"?

So they should just wait and release it in February so they can make enough to go around. And you will provide the storage for 25 million phones. I'm sure Tim will be calling you personally to set things up.

Or since it is just really the iPhone 4 and they are lying to everybody about being all new internals, they should just wave their magic wands and say abracadabra. Why don't you just google "Assembly line" and see how things are really made.

and you also realize that it would still take weeks or months to ship all those phones. It's not like you can just put 25 million of them on one airplane.
 
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UHH..UHH...Well, the iPhone 4 sold out in like 5 hours but this one took like 2 hours longer. Yeah! So that means people don't like the iPhone 4S! Yeah! That's it! Haha! DROID! woot!

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Hey did you hear? You can still preorder on Apple's website, but you have to wait two weeks to get it! Last year, you couldn't preorder after the first day! The iPhone 4S is a JOKE! People hate it!

//Hater 3

Apple must it only had 400,000 iPhones made on launch date to create a big buzz, I'm sure Nexus Prime will sell at least 50 million on day one and destroy apple.
(More like wishful thinking hater but you get the picture)
 
Trollers gonna troll

but to feed him, "if" they made 200k per vendor and 200k for retail. 800k is a **** ton of phones. Doubt it's that many but it has to be close.

Either way, 2 white's will be delivered at the office next friday. Oh Siri where have you been all my life?

honey i have the iphone 4 and will be getting the iphone4s since a man will purchase it for me(whom work at apple)...Trust i would not buy the junk i would have went nexus prime
 
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Apple must it only had 400,000 iPhones made on launch date to create a big buzz, I'm sure Nexus Prime will sell at least 50 million on day one and destroy apple.
(More like wishful thinking hater but you get the picture)

I'm pretty sure that the Nexus Prime will also fly and lay golden eggs too ;)
 
I think they allot some for preorder, and some for walk in. At least that's how it worked with the 3GS & 4. I preordered both, but walk-ins were still able to buy on day one. However, they only lasted until noon or so.


Can we still buy one in the store on launch day? (Assuming we stand in line, of course.)

I haven't seen anything about buying in the stores, but perhaps that's a given. No sure.
 
Impressive.

I just hope I can get a phone in November.

If you are waiting for eligibility on AT&T, keep checking. I know several people who have been bumped up and I notice several people here saying the same.
 
This shouldn't surprise anyone considering 1) launch day was spread over 3 US carriers covering 250 million US customers, compared to last year's launch being restricted to just 100 million AT&T customers; 2) the additional 4-months between a June and October launch means that some iPhone 4 customers became re-eligible on launch day than they would have otherwise (mimicking the effect AT&T's decision to move up renewal dates last year); and 3) the passing of Steve Jobs, while certainly a tragedy in every sense of the word, might have reminded some who were on the fence why they loved Apple products and to get the last iPhone Steve was alive to witness.

why do they not make more than enough? surely this phone is not that damn difficult to make since basically it's the same damn design as the last...do they just like the sound of "sold out"?

If we lived in a world where replicators were a reality, then perhaps you'd have a point. Until then, Foxconn has to make the phones, get them onto trains, planes, and ships, and Apple (probably through a courier here) has to get them off ships, onto planes, onto trucks, and then to stores and doorsteps. The entire process requires a lot of upfront preparation and it wouldn't be cost effective to make 1-2 months worth of demand and hold it as inventory until launch day. Not only does it drain cash (the sunk cost of making the phones, insurance, and storage), but it also would cause needless bottlenecks throughout the supply chain once the initial spike left the factory. The entire system can only move as fast as its slowest part. If there are only enough truck drivers to deliver 1 million iPhones per week (hypothetically), then that's all any company would logically produce.
 
why do they not make more than enough? surely this phone is not that damn difficult to make since basically it's the same damn design as the last...do they just like the sound of "sold out"?

Trust me, they make every possible one they can sell.

Do the math, and it starts to make more sense. Assume it takes one minute on an assembly line to make one iPhone. That's 1440 iPhones per line per 24 hours. Some will fail inspections, so I dunno, say it's 1400 per line per day.

OK, say they have 60 days to be making them. That's 84,000 per line.

Say they have ten lines going for 60 days, that's 840,000 iPhones, which for all we know is close to what they had for themselves and the three carriers for pre-orders.

My numbers are way off, but really I'm trying to make more of a point -- it actually does take time and energy to make this darn many of a pretty complex electronic gadget. There are major constraints on various elements of the device -- processors, screens, other various chips, cases, etc. There are thousands of components after all, and not having enough of any ONE of them will keep the device from being made.

Apple is selling more smartphones of a single model than any other manufacturer by FAR. It's a challenge, a legitimate challenge, to keep up with demand. In fact, since the first iPhone and iPad went on sale, they essentially have NOT been able to keep up with total demand, globally.
 
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I love how all the "droids" talk about marketshare 2-weeks BEFORE Apple's annual iPhone announcement.

As I told all my Android friends 2-weeks ago... "ask me again in 6-weeks"
 
Some lucky soul is gonna get a white iPhone 4s 32gb earlier than expected if my current iPhone 4 32gb doesn't sell on Craigslist by 5pm tomorrow!

Here's to hoping!
 
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