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Watch Band Kit !! now included in your Apple Developer account.
My prediction:

Good morning... good morning, thank you thank you...
We have some exciting products to show you, we will skip our store and sell updates.... we will begin with our most personal device yet.. The Apple Watch.. tremendous satisfaction.. our customers loooove our products.... we have some news and to tell you all about it....

[Watch bands] in slooowww moootionnnn

It is amazing, only Apple could do it.
Next, iOS... people loooove iPhone, number one in satisfaction.. the marriage between hardware and software, "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware", bricked devices on day one after multiple betas? what? I can't hear you.. beautiful iOS, don't worry we will make yor iPhone slow but we are doing you a favor.. you must upgrade c'mon!!, if not we will partially restore performance with the next beta versions... No new UI Design so Jhonny you can skip this one. Maps, wow you have to check the new Maps, we are almost at the same level of Google maps, but hey.. our App Icon is better!... Siri.. Siri now knows about Soccer... whaaatt!!! that is crazy (actually I would be happy with that).

Next!
OS X, errgg.. mac OS .. eerrrhgg Mac OS.. errrgg NOT iOS: we can't wait to tell you how we came with the new name (it will be funny).... features? right right.. well let seeee... SIRI !!! you can say "Hey other Siri" (because "Hey Siri" is for your phone, you don't want to confuse them), and check that new spotlight !! wow, Mail is faster, you won't notice but is faster!, and you know is new because it has a new wallpaper!! thank you back to Tim..

We are thrilled with our amazing technology, Last year we released Health Kit, today we have released Watch band Kit, we can't wait to see what are you going to do with that, we want to know, really.

Oh and check out the Store after the keynote, we threw a rose gold MBP and you may find is faster, thank you for comming, thank you, namaste..
 
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Nothing is a surprise anymore. No offence to Macrumours but there are too many leaks lately. We already know what if anything will be introduced.

We know very little about iOS 10 and the OS X updates, and we know about as for sure as we could that they will be discussed.
 
As an iPhone user, I'm hoping for a big iOS 10 release. As a prospective first time Mac user, I look forward to what the next OS X will bring as it'll be my first version of OS X.

As an avid member of the Waiting for Skylake MBP crew, I'm hoping for some mention, a teaser, something that shows us that we have something on the horizon for the MBP. No mention at all, like in March, would be a big downer.

As a general Apple fan, I just look forward to another keynote, as I enjoy them immensely.


I just wanted to say that the footer on your posts is brilliant (and hilarious)! After reading the MacBook Pro's waiting for Skylake thread for years, it'd be useful if you posted in there a little more :D Some people just never learn....
 
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Here's your shot card! Game on.

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I think with just magical, amazing, revolutionary, thrilled and incredible I'd have trouble getting off the couch. I fear that will all those words I'd need more than one bottle of scotch ;)
 
new MBP has to be launched NOW in June. I can't wait until September or December. My unibody won't make it. I am already running 2 version older of the OS X.
 
There's also a possibility we could see the debut of new hardware products, and much of the Mac line is in need of an update.

That's right. It's time, Apple would finally update their Mac line, especially the Mac mini and Mac Pro ...
 
yeah I'm sick of disposable desktop computers.

...but you like cheap computers like the iMac?

Unlike, say, the original Macintosh, which cost $5000-$6000 after you adjust for 30 years of inflation. The original IBM PC also started at about $4000 in today's money. If you're not in that league, how about a Commodore 64 for $1500 after inflation (excluding display and disk drives)?

Economies of scale are everything for electronic goods. Prices dropped as the market exploded, and the exponential increase in power & sophistication meant they could sell that market a new machine every couple of years even if the machines were expandable. Now, the technology is mature, a 10-year-old computer will probably do the job and the only way manufacturers are going to get the same turnover is if they artificially build-in obsolescence - or raise prices.

What Apple have done is a bit of both: their entry level models have the worst built-in obsolescence, but if you get all the trimmings you'll still have a computer that's good for 5 years.

TLDNR: Obsolescence keeps prices down.

I actually thought this was sarcasm the first time I read it. Now I realise its not.

Sarcasm and reality are not mutually exclusive.
 
"and Apple Pay support for web browsers, allowing Apple Pay to be used to make purchases via Safari much like PayPal."

not for third party browsers like Firefox.... (not yet anyway), but u know Apple will allow this at some stage...

Much in the same they restricted TouchID initially, then opened it up later.

Only thing to get excited with this year?

I dunno what i'm waiting for... ... but I am .... maybie an updated Mac (even if it's a small increase0 ahead of the TouchID ones later on would still be ok....


I'm still waiting reagradless then i'll buy products after WWDC.... Not before :D
 
I really wish people would stop saying this. Two out of the past four WWDCs introduced brand new hardware.

Well, this give you a sense and an indicator of what people wants. How long have consumers have being waiting and expeting a hardware upgade that on every even we finally expect Apple to do so and nothing, competition is using latest tech while Apple waits until the next keynote aboout Mac? when that will be? after the watch OS, tv OS events, after the watch band events? after the re-introduction of iPhone 5? or they could show a new hardaware design in this WWDC if they have something to show.
 
...but you like cheap computers like the iMac?

Unlike, say, the original Macintosh, which cost $5000-$6000 after you adjust for 30 years of inflation. The original IBM PC also started at about $4000 in today's money. If you're not in that league, how about a Commodore 64 for $1500 after inflation (excluding display and disk drives)?

Economies of scale are everything for electronic goods. Prices dropped as the market exploded, and the exponential increase in power & sophistication meant they could sell that market a new machine every couple of years even if the machines were expandable. Now, the technology is mature, a 10-year-old computer will probably do the job and the only way manufacturers are going to get the same turnover is if they artificially build-in obsolescence - or raise prices.

What Apple have done is a bit of both: their entry level models have the worst built-in obsolescence, but if you get all the trimmings you'll still have a computer that's good for 5 years.

TLDNR: Obsolescence keeps prices down.



Sarcasm and reality are not mutually exclusive.
imac is not cheap computer. They are great computers but I use Mac Pro. I can care less if price is down. Price is nothing compared to longevity.
 
...but you like cheap computers like the iMac?

Unlike, say, the original Macintosh, which cost $5000-$6000 after you adjust for 30 years of inflation. The original IBM PC also started at about $4000 in today's money. If you're not in that league, how about a Commodore 64 for $1500 after inflation (excluding display and disk drives)?

Economies of scale are everything for electronic goods. Prices dropped as the market exploded, and the exponential increase in power & sophistication meant they could sell that market a new machine every couple of years even if the machines were expandable. Now, the technology is mature, a 10-year-old computer will probably do the job and the only way manufacturers are going to get the same turnover is if they artificially build-in obsolescence - or raise prices.

What Apple have done is a bit of both: their entry level models have the worst built-in obsolescence, but if you get all the trimmings you'll still have a computer that's good for 5 years.

TLDNR: Obsolescence keeps prices down.



Sarcasm and reality are not mutually exclusive.

I don't agree at all - the only thing thats slowed down in the last decade are silicon chip speeds - which people seem obsessed about on her and actually make one of the smallest differences to your computing experience unless you're constantly exporting renders (eg video editors or encoders) or a musician that uses many plugins at the same time.

Meanwhile hard drive speeds have increased in the last 5 years more than ever - they were the stagnating part for over a decade, when CPU cycles were what often double, hard drives remained 7200rpm spinning. SSDs started creeping in about a decade ago and the technology got better, they quickly saturated SATA buses and now in every high end system universally they are are on PCI-E cards and in the latest MacBooks and iMac reach ridiculous speeds of up to 2000MBPS where as 5 years ago you'd be lucky to get 350MBPS and ten years ago maybe 80MBPS from a spinning drive.

Graphics cards have continue to increase at a rapid rate - in the last 3-4 years Apple have gone retina in all their iMac and Macbook Pro/Macbook models and many other manufacturers have got HI-DPI. These are much bigger jumps and have a much larger change to user experience than an increase in CPU speed ever will.

Optical media has all but died and in replace internet speeds have gone faster and faster and has been supported by Wifi standards which have increased in speed 5 times over the last decade and are now getting close to gigabit ethernet.

Gigabit ethernet which has been the standard for about 8 years but will eventually be superseded by 10 gigbit ethernet and you'll be able to almost run SSD like speed drives on a LAN!

We've gone from needing everything inside of a computer to achieve any sort of throughput required for graphics or heavy processing to having Thunderbolt which introduced an incredible 10gbps throughput outside of a computer chassis! Thunderbolt 2 doubled on this and Thunderbolt 3 available starting this year is going to give us 40gbps along a single cable, these are insane advances.

Between 2011 and 2013 alone we had the jump to USB3 which dramatically changed the face of cheap external devices. The next jump is going to be to a USB-C connection on all devices which can do everything from HDMI to Thunderbolt 3 to external PCI-E connections to USB3.1 and everything in between.

Keyboard designs have changed, new techniques have been developed, things have got faster but lighter and easier to carry around - battery technology hasn't increased too much but all the work in CPU and other parts has to give us batteries that last 12 hours!

RAM has also increased ten fold and DDR4 will be universal soon with lower power consumption and double the speed of standard DDR3.

Apple have developed a trackpad that doesn't even have a physical click but feels like it does and soon we'll be seeing OLED strips.

So quite the opposite, I don't think computer technology has remotely stagnated, I like upgrading on a year basis because i'm a tech geek who enjoys the new features and tweaks - but there are many people on these forum who are very happy with their 5-7 year old MacBooks (especially the ones that have 17" monitors and love them) so tell them about their planned obsolesce.
 
It doesn't feel like we've had many rumours this year, particularly about iOS 10, so I'm excited to see what's unveiled. But if they don't announce new MacBook Pros I'll be disappointed, regardless of how good the new software looks - the processors are available and it's nearly the back-to-school season; Apple must be really stupid to delay the launch until September/October.

I was overly excited for the March event but that turned out to be relatively boring, so I'm hoping WWDC will be different.
I'm hoping the lack of software rumors mean they will focus on increased stability and under the hood performance enhancements rather than new features, I realize from a marketing standard they can't go back to a two year cycle for OS X but it would be nice if they just worked on bug fixes and speed for the next version. That plus new macs would be great, I'll probably be buying one in the not too distant future, and would love to see something that would make me excited to get a new one.
 
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I don't agree at all - the only thing thats slowed down in the last decade are silicon chip speeds - which people seem obsessed about on her and actually make one of the smallest differences to your computing experience

...well, yes, CPU speed doesn't make a big difference when it only goes up by a few %. When it doubles every 2 years, you notice.

Since I got my current MBP in 2011, clock speeds haven't really changed much, but architectures have changed, and a comparable new Mac would be, what, 20-30% faster? So after 5 years I would see a small, but useful speed increase.

C.f. this site that shows clock speeds: in the late 90s, clock speeds were going up by 10-30% per year - in 1995, you have the Pentium @ 120MHz. Five years later: Pentium 3 @ 1000MHz. Now, CPU frequency doesn't translate directly to performance but, believe me, if your clock frequency goes up by a factor of 8, you have a different class of machine. That 1995 machine could probably edit (very slowly) grainy quarter-screen Quicktime movies. A 1998 machine with a suitable codec card could outclass it and happily edit full-screen SVHS quality MJPEG video. The 2000 machine would do near-pro-quality DV good enough for low-budget movies or pro journalism.

My 5-year-old MBP might creak a bit at 4k, but I think it could manage - if it had been a 2011 Mac Pro with an upgradeable graphics card it wouldn't break a sweat.

Meanwhile hard drive speeds have increased in the last 5 years more than ever

...and what made the big difference was the switch from HD to SSD and the associated huge reduction in seek times. You can reap most of that advantage by slamming a SATA SSD in your 5-year old machine (I did that 3 years ago). Meanwhile, the price drop on SSDs has been rather disappointing - it still costs a wad to get SSD capacity to match the HD capacity of 5-year-old laptops.

As for "faster" SSDs - I'd throw back your comment about CPU speeds: everybody obsesses about the sustained transfer speed of PCIe SSDs, and that's great if you're endlessly moving huge media files around, but for most people the difference comes as soon as you chuck in a cheap-jack SATA SSD and your seek times no longer depend on moving lumps of metal.

Graphics cards have continue to increase at a rapid rate

...yet my 2011 Mac happily runs Minecraft, about the only innovative 3D game to emerge in the last 3 years.

Optical media has all but died
...leaving my 2011 MBP with a nice slot for another hard drive. Sweet. Which 2016 laptop comes with 3TB storage?

Gigabit ethernet which has been the standard for about 8 years but will eventually be superseded by 10 gigbit ethernet and you'll be able to almost run SSD like speed drives on a LAN!

Yup - I could hang one of those off the Thunderbolt port on my 2011 MBP. Yes folks, Thunderbolt is 5 years old.

Between 2011 and 2013 alone we had the jump to USB3 which dramatically changed the face of cheap external devices.

Yup - got a USB3 ExpressCard that plugs in to my 2011 MBP (or I could use Thunderbolt)... are you starting to see my original point about why it is a bad business model to make upgradeable computers?

The next jump is going to be to a USB-C connection on all devices which can do everything from HDMI to Thunderbolt 3 to external PCI-E connections to USB3.1 and everything in between.

Ding! This is what we're really waiting for, and what most people will be listening for at WWDC. However, there's a whole can of worms involving different flavours of cable (several grades of USB-C, passive TB3, active TB3), DisplayPort 1.2-over-Thunderbot vs. USB-C in DisplayPort 1.3 alternate-mode, MST, SST etc. to be sorted out.

Keyboard designs have changed,

Yes, everybody here keeps saying how much they love the new MB keyboard. Not.

RAM has also increased ten fold

???

Apple have developed a trackpad that doesn't even have a physical click but feels like it does and soon we'll be seeing OLED strips.

I'll give you that the trackpads are cool - but hardly a game changer (the original glass trackpad was a big thing for laptops though - first usable laptop pointing device IMHO).

So, do the OLED strips mean I can program them to match my new watch strap?

Seriously - that will depend very much how they are used. Do I now need to look at the OLED strip as well as the screen to discover functionality?
 
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The complete blindside of the MacBook's return compared to the iPhone 4 leaks all over shows that Apple has a sharp sense of control over product details. What I'm surprised with is just what others have said; the number of leaks lead to no surprises in the events anymore.

I'm still amazed that the retina MacBook was a complete one-more-thing secret, but compared to the original iPod / iPhone / iPad / MacBook Air launches there's no pizazz or wonder anymore. Not to mention, forcefully calling devices "magic" (like the trackpad) doesn't help either.
 
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