Apple Set to Become First $4 Trillion Company

[Abazigal]

Apple's 'Move to iOS' app makes Google Play's top 40 app list

One of Apple's apps for Android has popped up on the Google Play's store top downloaded apps over Christmas. Here's why the "Move to iOS" app has launched itself into the top 40, and what it does.

appleinsider.com

Apple’s stock performance certainly doesn’t seem to match with the online discourse we are seeing here.

Maybe we are the ones who are getting old and the ones increasingly out of touch, rather than Apple.

 

[DELLsFan]

Congrats, Apple.

$4T worth? Impressive.

I wonder how much they pay in liabilities to the People's Republic of California and China?

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

lol. Jokes. I thought it was hypocrisy.


Pretty sure people keeping repeating something of an easy error annoyed you. Otherwise why correct something that you said happens all them time. What is the point of correcting someone for something when it isn’t the actual point of the post. Someone even corrected me for putting 3 emojis instead of the required one on this thread! But we are all wired differently.

I still want to know why people prefer Android instead of why they hate Apple. I get the jealousy and being envious, but is it just because it’s the only alternative no matter how bad their ecosystem is?

You should ask someone who uses Android. I don't own a single Android device, no point in asking me at all.

I know it might be hard to believe that someone can use Apple devices and not worship Apple and think they can't do any wrong at all but yeah it's true. Sorry.

 

[steve09090]

You should ask someone who uses Android. I don't own a single Android device, no point in asking me at all.

I know it might be hard to believe that someone can use Apple devices and not worship Apple and think they can't do any wrong at all but yeah it's true. Sorry.

It was a general question. This isn’t about you.

I never suggested anyone should be worshipping Apple, so stop being condescending. It’s pathetic. My entire question was about another post which is why people prefer Android, not why people worship (as you suggested) Apple devices.

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

It was a general question. This isn’t about you.

I never suggested anyone should be worshipping Apple, so stop being condescending. It’s pathetic. My entire question was about another post which is why people prefer Android, not why people worship (as you suggested) Apple devices.

I just couldn't resist, as soon as I saw the thread 👸

 

[hans1972]

You wouldn't drop them in an instant because you're locked into the ecosystem and Apple is arguably the king of this strategy. Where would you go? Nowhere. Don't sit there and tell me you'd be able to move your entire digital life out of the Apple ecosystem we both know that's a lie.

That's not difficult for a technical person. Even for non-technical people, Google provides great tools for going from iOS to Android.

Hardware
Mac -> Windows PC
iPhone -> Android phone
iPad -> Android tablet or a very huge Android phone
Apple Watch -> Wear watch or Samsung watch
Apple TV -> Chromecast or a smart TV
Airport -> any network router
Apple Magic Keyboard -> any Bluetooth keyboard
Apple Magic Mouse -> any Bluetooth mouse

Files and iCloud Drive
Method 1: Copy files from iCloud Drive and local file system to OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox
Method 2: Create a shared drive in Windows and copy files directly from the Mac to the PC
Method 3: Copy files from iCloud Drive and local file system to a USB drive, copy from USB drive to Windows PC

iCloud Photo Library
Method 1: Have Google Photo getting all the photos and uploading them to Google Photo
Method 2: Open Photos on the Mac, select all photos and videos, export to Windows share, USB drive or even directly to OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox folder on the Mac
Method 3: Open iCloud.com on your PC, open iPhotos, select all the photos, download them to the Windows PC

Photos without iCloud Photo Library
Method 1: Open Photos on the Mac, select all photos and videos, export to Windows share, USB drive or even directly to OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox folder on the Mac
Method 2: Enable iCloud Photo Library and use the methods for iCloud Photo Library

iCloud emails
Method 1: Open gmail.com, import emails directly from iCloud from there
Method 2: Use any IMAP-enabled mail client on the Mac or Windows, open your iCloud account in said mail client, upon another IMAP account (Gmail, Outlook.com etc.) and copy each folder manually with drag and drop

iCloud contacts
Method 1: Open gmail.com, import contacts directly from iCloud from there
Method 2: If you're using something else like outlook.com, you can use Method 1, then export as CSV and import to outlook.com and others
Method 3: Open icloud.com and Contacts, select all contacts, export as VCF, use spreadsheet or website to convert from VCF to CSV, open outlook.com, import the CSV from there

Apple Music
Use Spotify.

If you need to transfer playlist, use utilities like Tune My Music, Soundiiz or even a free service such as https://playlists.cloud

Notes
Method 1: Use Exporter from Mac App Store
Method 2: Install OneNote on the Mac, sync Notes through iCloud, for every single note share it to OneNote
Method 3: Use "Obtain your data" service from Apple

iMessages
Method 1: Use a third-party application on Mac or PC, e.g. iMazing, TextMessage, TenorShare
Method 2: Use a third-party solution from Github, usually free like iMessage-exporter

Non-Apple Software
Almost all software is available on Windows and Android.

 

[@Brett]

Go to gadget share price. I would argue Apple shares are undervalued compared with Tesla shares.

 

[vantelimus]

Apple's 'Move to iOS' app makes Google Play's top 40 app list

One of Apple's apps for Android has popped up on the Google Play's store top downloaded apps over Christmas. Here's why the "Move to iOS" app has launched itself into the top 40, and what it does.

appleinsider.com

Apple’s stock performance certainly doesn’t seem to match with the online discourse we are seeing here.

Maybe we are the ones who are getting old and the ones increasingly out of touch, rather than Apple.

We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

 

[steve09090]

That's not difficult for a technical person. Even for non-technical people, Google provides great tools for going from iOS to Android.

Hardware
Mac -> Windows PC
iPhone -> Android phone
iPad -> Android tablet or a very huge Android phone
Apple Watch -> Wear watch or Samsung watch
Apple TV -> Chromecast or a smart TV
Airport -> any network router
Apple Magic Keyboard -> any Bluetooth keyboard
Apple Magic Mouse -> any Bluetooth mouse

Files and iCloud Drive
Method 1: Copy files from iCloud Drive and local file system to OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox
Method 2: Create a shared drive in Windows and copy files directly from the Mac to the PC
Method 3: Copy files from iCloud Drive and local file system to a USB drive, copy from USB drive to Windows PC

iCloud Photo Library
Method 1: Have Google Photo getting all the photos and uploading them to Google Photo
Method 2: Open Photos on the Mac, select all photos and videos, export to Windows share, USB drive or even directly to OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox folder on the Mac
Method 3: Open iCloud.com on your PC, open iPhotos, select all the photos, download them to the Windows PC

Photos without iCloud Photo Library
Method 1: Open Photos on the Mac, select all photos and videos, export to Windows share, USB drive or even directly to OneDrive/Google Drive/Dropbox folder on the Mac
Method 2: Enable iCloud Photo Library and use the methods for iCloud Photo Library

iCloud emails
Method 1: Open gmail.com, import emails directly from iCloud from there
Method 2: Use any IMAP-enabled mail client on the Mac or Windows, open your iCloud account in said mail client, upon another IMAP account (Gmail, Outlook.com etc.) and copy each folder manually with drag and drop

iCloud contacts
Method 1: Open gmail.com, import contacts directly from iCloud from there
Method 2: If you're using something else like outlook.com, you can use Method 1, then export as CSV and import to outlook.com and others
Method 3: Open icloud.com and Contacts, select all contacts, export as VCF, use spreadsheet or website to convert from VCF to CSV, open outlook.com, import the CSV from there

Apple Music
Use Spotify.

If you need to transfer playlist, use utilities like Tune My Music, Soundiiz or even a free service such as https://playlists.cloud

Notes
Method 1: Use Exporter from Mac App Store
Method 2: Install OneNote on the Mac, sync Notes through iCloud, for every single note share it to OneNote
Method 3: Use "Obtain your data" service from Apple

iMessages
Method 1: Use a third-party application on Mac or PC, e.g. iMazing, TextMessage, TenorShare
Method 2: Use a third-party solution from Github, usually free like iMessage-exporter

Non-Apple Software
Almost all software is available on Windows and Android.

People often say they are locked in because they would have the pay for the app again. This is under control of the app developer, not iOS, Android, Windows or any other OS. Any developer can allow someone to have multiple devices or even just access on any single device.

People who stay with Apple are not "locked in" to Apple. They choose to stay there.

 

[turbineseaplane]

People make up stuff on the internet. Every time someone starts a thread about an issue they have he is the 1st one to respond that its their fault because he doesn't have any issues lmao Everything is just peachy in Apple World for some people even though they lie.

I have friends and acquaintances that will pretend everything is perfect in Apple World when talking to android people, but when we're alone they'll tell me how much their iPhone sucks or some other Apple product but they stay because it's too much of a hassle to switch or because everyone they know has Apple....and there are A LOT of people out there like that...stuck for some reason even though they wish they had more choices.

Yeah .. Apple land is full of little issues and niggles, I totally agree

Apple does too, or they wouldn’t have literally a never ending list of things to fix (or try to)

 

[WarmWinterHat]

Go to gadget share price. I would argue Apple shares are undervalued compared with Tesla shares.

Tesla shares are so overpriced that they are used an example in economic classes. That's a bad example.

 

[Abazigal]

Last decade their R&D expenditure is less that $200 billion. Same period, they've spent nearly $700 billion on their own stock.

Clearly shows where the priorities are, shareholder value > product.

I don't see the issue with this.

This says that Apple remains extremely disciplined with their spending, and it makes sense to return excess revenue to the shareholders (the money is rightfully theirs). I am not sure why you expect Apple to toss every last cent they have into R&D (beyond a certain point, you are not going to see a meaningful return on your investment), and I feel that statements like this are intended to stoke some form of moral outrage more than they are about striking some form of meaningful conversation.

 

[green_diyos]

I hope they up the dividends a bit more than they did the past two years, but I'm not arguing with the overall growth the past five years since I retired. 😀

Go $AAPL

I can see the share price pushing market cap to $5 trillion if they doubled dividend. ;-)

I'd have enjoyed life at >$200k annual div.

 

[mansplains]

I’m doing my part, subscribing to every app I can

 

[wouwout]

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[avz]

Good for Apple, I just hope that those valuation numbers factor in that the insignificant, transitory recession will still be here for another 10+ years.

 

[neomorpheus]

What's to feel bad about?

Just look at the obscene prices on the Mac Mini storage and memory upgrades.

I love Apple products, but I do feel they have lost their soul a bit. Could just be me getting older though.

As a customer since the Apple ][ days, I miss The Woz philosophy, being able to upgrade my computer components, being able to open them easily to dust them off (for example and yes, looking at you Mac Studio).

But most of the things they keep doing are great, especially the move to Arm.

Sadly, nobody ever guided me or suggested to buy their stocks back then, so no, i’m not a millionaire thanks to them.

 

[svish]

Good going Apple. Expecting to reach the milestone very soon and will surely be the first company to do so. Great for shareholders too.

 

[SidricTheViking]

General observation. I find if you have to use three emojis to try and emphasise your point - you don't actually have a point.

Allow me to politely disagree. As a user of the ‘Trimoji’ for about a decade now, I find it to be useful in many situations.
😎🇮🇪☘️

 

[SidricTheViking]

Just on this. They have 2 billion active devices this does not equal 2 billion customers. There are only 8 billion people on the planet. Extremely unlikely 1 in 4 own an Apple device.

Thank you. I was tempted to start pointing this out but it would have needed far too many replies to previous posts.

 

[steve09090]

Allow me to politely disagree. As a user of the ‘Trimoji’ for about a decade now, I find it to be useful in many situations.
😎🇮🇪☘️

It tells a story 🥵🇦🇺🦘

 

[9081094]

Surely you are being sarcastic?

Saying their hardware isn’t theirs is false. They design almost all, except some of the technical aspects that they buy in (like the wifi chips). They produce high quality devices. The windows laptop I recently bought is junk in build and quality compared to my 2020 MacBook Air. Both in software and hardware. Why the hell does it force an update once a week when I have to turn it on? And then it takes at least an hour (sometimes 3) before I can use it.

With regard to software. How do you transfer photos from one device to another? How about if you want to send a webpage you are looking at to your other half, or a friend when they are on another device?

If I make a change to 1 of my 3 Apple TV's the others replicate that change. Instantly (And yes I can turn that feature off).

If you have 2 Bluetooth speakers next to your TV, how do you turn them into a stereo pair when the Sonos Stuffs up once again?

Apple products have value because they simply work better together than any other devices. Over to you to explain how other ecosystems work better together.

While those are nice options I agree with it’s not only Apple who has those possibilities. Samsung, Google offers them too. I also might invite you to watch the possibilities of Huawei’s harmonyOS to see what’s already possible. Yes, the look and feel is very Apple like and they probably copied the best from Apple.

You also forget that the things Apple has only work with Apple. Considering Apple has about 8% marketshare in the pc business it should considered to be a handicap.

That’s why WhatsApp is the standard in Europe because very few are using messages and you want to be able to communicate with colleagues, family and friends.

Apples closed system is a handicap for all living in an area where Android and windows dominate. Outside the us that’s in the most part of the world.

Apple is able to communicate well with others but has chosen not too. This isn’t playing well for them in the long term because they’re going to be left out.

Only if you’re in the Apple ecosystem you benefit from those possibilities you point out above. Whereas Android and windows found a way to play nice (like Apple) with eachother. The same integration and more Apple is providing.

 

[RestlessCaviar]

Only $4,000,000,000,000? Such a fragile poor company will definitely still need protecting from the big bad European communists.

 

[9081094]

Apple's 'Move to iOS' app makes Google Play's top 40 app list

One of Apple's apps for Android has popped up on the Google Play's store top downloaded apps over Christmas. Here's why the "Move to iOS" app has launched itself into the top 40, and what it does.

appleinsider.com

Apple’s stock performance certainly doesn’t seem to match with the online discourse we are seeing here.

Maybe we are the ones who are getting old and the ones increasingly out of touch, rather than Apple.

Can you stop with using “we” when speaking for yourself?

 

[Abazigal]

Can you stop with using “we” when speaking for yourself?

So long as a single one of us remains, we are legion.