Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
This thing looks great. I'm probably going to pick one up for travel, and keep one lightning and one USB-C cable plugged into it at all times. Then I can charge all my stuff with one charger I can just spool up and toss in my bag without thinking.
 
But, … why’s  making these seeing their reason for not including them with new iPhones? Oh! The two ports reduce plastic footprints?!

Oh boy!
 
Last edited:
  • Disagree
Reactions: The Cappy
Wow, that‘s some ugly wall wart.
This charger MUST internally be more than 35W, because no electrical switch is 100% efficient. If it offers JUST 35W when one device is plugged in, it can’t physics-ally provide 17.5 watts when two high demand devices are plugged in. WHAT IS APPLE HIDING?!?!?
pretty sure, there's some deactivated stage manager code hidden in that ugly wall wart.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Unregistered 4U
I'm baffled they didn't do higher wattage. I know MBA is not exactly high-powered, but why not do a dual charger that could fast charge both an iPhone and the mac?

Also, and I almost can't believe I'm asking for this, but why do I have to get a charger bundled? I have 2 x 100w with triple USB-C and 1 USB-A. I don't need new chargers for the foreseeable future.
Why don’t you just give the charger you got to other users?
 
Unless you guys drop the massive square 3 pin plugs and switch to something like the rest of mainland Europe. Chargers don't need earth, but you would still need the earth pin to open the other 2 slots, hence it being difficult to make a compact charger. South Africa is slowly switching over to Schuko plugs with new buildings. They still have the old round UK 3 pin plugs, just big enough for a child's finger.

Apple already sells a compact UK version of the 18w and 20w chargers. The fact that they were able to fit a UK plug on what is likely smaller than the US version of this dual port charger is why people are disappointed.

MU7W2_GEO_GB
 
I wonder if getting this for travel with an iPhone, watch and say an iPad would work well? Typically I bring the MagSafe Duo and two 20-watt plugs. If I plug the iPad and the Duo into this 35-watt adapter will it take forever to charge all three devices?
 
Unless you guys drop the massive square 3 pin plugs and switch to something like the rest of mainland Europe. Chargers don't need earth, but you would still need the earth pin to open the other 2 slots, hence it being difficult to make a compact charger. South Africa is slowly switching over to Schuko plugs with new buildings. They still have the old round UK 3 pin plugs, just big enough for a child's finger.

None of you who commented on the size of pins on UK plug seen an actual iPhone charger for the UK.

It’s already compact and has folding pins. Just need to add another hole in it.
 

Attachments

  • D632BF65-D195-4063-A897-99613643F012.jpeg
    D632BF65-D195-4063-A897-99613643F012.jpeg
    117.8 KB · Views: 82
  • Like
Reactions: ksec and linuskuai
This charger MUST internally be more than 35W, because no electrical switch is 100% efficient. If it offers JUST 35W when one device is plugged in, it can’t physics-ally provide 17.5 watts when two high demand devices are plugged in. WHAT IS APPLE HIDING?!?!?
Nothing, really. It wouldn't be a surprise that the internal construction is conservatively specified. It's a very common practice - build better than the bare minimum.

If you operate too close to the edge you risk a higher percentage of product failures. Meantime, the outputs could still be limited to a certain peak power, again for the purpose of safety/reliability. Let's say the internal build is capable of delivering 40 watts or more, with each output limited to a "safe" maximum of 17.5 W.

I know, I know, there are people out there who demand every milliwatt of available power (I'm talking to you, laptop video editors and gamers!) and feel cheated when Apple sets different, cooler limits. "It's my responsibility if my Mac melts down!" Only it isn't just your responsibility. The manufacturer still gets publicly pilloried for making a product that melted down. So Apple sets safety/reliability-based limits/build standards that are on the conservative side. Live with it.
 
They couldn’t male it 40W, so each device would receive 20W? Or 10/30 for watch and Mac/iPhone since 13 pro max can receive up to 27W.

Power delivery operates at up to 3.0A at fixed voltage levels, e.g. 5V, 9V, 15V, 20V.

USB-C cables can be divided into three ranges - 0-60W, 60-100W, and up to 240W.

5V @ 0.5A and at 1A (2.5W and 5W) is the non-PD legacy mode. You also have a lot of proprietary non-PD modes, such as using resister detection in the iPod/iPhone/iPad USB-A cords to go up to 12W, or various Qualcomm quick charge iterations.

So the 'round numbers' are typically more like 15W, 27W, 45W, 60W, and 100W, with things like Qi and USB-A ports often resulting in odd values.
 
Well, the 20W UK charger built by Apple is actually quite genuinely designed, small in size and foldable, this and Apple Watch Magnetic Charging Dock are the only two Apple chargers I've bought happily... wondering why Apple wouldn't continue using this design for the UK market
Ah, interesting, I didn't realize they even made one with folding prongs, I didn't think they could do that with the size of them.

I just remember seeing the pics of the monstrosity that you plug into the normal travel adapters that have the removable plug types.
 
I tried using the 20W that came with my iPad mini for my Macbook Air when studying once, the percentage did not go up at all. Not even heavy usage, just watching videos and doing flashcards.

I do have an intel MBA though, but the wattage they chose is still ridiculous. If they release something like this for the MBP I might just get that one.
That’s strange. I’ve used the 20W for my M1 MBA for several months, and it always charges.
 
Is it asking too much in 2022 to have fast charging (at least when there is only one device plug-in) and 2 ports?

It would have been only one option instead of two, and they could charge more for it. So less SKU, more money and happier customer!
No, of course not. Apple engineers and plans their devices YEARS in advance. This was probably developed before 20w fast charging.

Apple always makes the correct decisions. 😏

Seriously though…. HUGE miss not making it 40watt. So stupid. (unless fast charging is magically enabled for two iOS devices…)
 
  • Like
Reactions: JustSomebody12
I just got both of these today and here's what my kitchen scale says, along with the plugs from the World Travel Adapter Kit.

compact adapter: 106g
regular adapter: 97g (without plug)

USA, CHN plugs: 18g
BRA, KOR, EUR, AUS plugs: 30g
GBR plug: 41g
Thanks for this, it’s really helpful. How would you say they both compare to Apple’s 20w adapter, size wise?
 
Just using a cheap ruler in my office...

20W USB-C adapter (US ver.): approx. 58mm long (incl. prongs), 42mm wide, 28mm thick
35W dual (regular): approx. 55mm square (prongs folded), 28mm thick
35W dual (compact): approx. 50mm square, 27mm thick (prongs stick out ~2mm when folded so you can grab them)
 
What a waste. I may own every apple product from the last 10 years, except for the monitors that cost thousands, but buying their branded power blocks is not one of them. I already own two 2 usbc charges that are 40W and Amazon sent them in one day. I wish Apple would stick to innovating new products.
 
  • Like
Reactions: segfaultdotorg
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.