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Because that seems to be the norm here, sadly. Just look at any post, there are always those who have to criticize anything Apple does even when it has nothing to with the topic.
Sure I know I’ma long-standing member of this forum and have had to defend my ‘positive’ take on Apple a multitude of times. You’re dammed if you do. But clearly equally Dammed if you don’t. I don’t follow any herd and walk my own path. I love Apple. But I don’t love what I’m seeing on this trailer. There didn’t seem to be any highlight stand out moments, no intriguing story arc, and bland characterisation. It’s only a teaser I know and I hope I’m wrong as I love Jennifer.
 
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So you want Apple TV+ to just be a clone of Netflix and HBO?

Yes in that they have many good/great shows that cover a wide range of possible content, on a yearly basis.

Apple can't even seem to get a launch date or a price for this stuff. I heard about this particular show at least 2 years ago on this site, what the heck is taking so long?
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Looks like Apple slapped together a script based on Charlie Rose’s sex scandal on CBS’ morning show, except in this portrayal of reality, there are not as many colored people in the world because everyone is so “color blind” that different looking people don’t get representation on the screen.

I was thinking Matt Lauer but yes same deal. Now we just get to watch the depressing drama of it.....G rated of course.
 
Based purely on the trailer, I'm in. Looks to be quite a bit more substantial than my initial first impression of 'sit com/drama'.
 
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Apple can't even seem to get a launch date or a price for this stuff. I heard about this particular show at least 2 years ago on this site, what the heck is taking so long?

“Can’t even seem to get a launch date”?
Just because you have ants in your pants, doesn’t mean that Apple doesn’t know what they’re doing. They made the announcement that it’s coming out this Fall and by all measures, they’re keeping to that launch window.

They’re building an entire TV network with dozens of shows and working with the industry’s top talent. They didn’t take the easy route of licensing content and instead are producing their own — all of it, all original content. You think they’d do this in a few months?
 
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It doesn't matter if its outdated,, the situation remains the same. It's just for profit gaining like Hollywood do.
 
Yikes

Maybe stick to making iphones.

Hard to believe their first piece of content is going to be the combination of the two biggest tropes from early 2000s movies. Romantic comedy, meshed with cable newsroom intrigue, and peppered with a little dash of ripped from the headlines #metoo plotlines.

This is bound to be derivative drivel, just because this genre has already been overdone so many times.
 
Looks decent with a great cast. However like many I'm not really looking for yet another streaming service to add or more content. I already have dozens of series queued up that I don't have time to watch/finish!
 
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Based purely on the trailer, I'm in. Looks to be quite a bit more substantial than my initial first impression of 'sit com/drama'.
Yeah, same here. I am SO OVER the crappy office place comedies. This is a breath of fresh air to me.
 
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Sure I know I’ma long-standing member of this forum and have had to defend my ‘positive’ take on Apple a multitude of times. You’re dammed if you do. But clearly equally Dammed if you don’t. I don’t follow any herd and walk my own path. I love Apple. But I don’t love what I’m seeing on this trailer. There didn’t seem to be any highlight stand out moments, no intriguing story arc, and bland characterisation. It’s only a teaser I know and I hope I’m wrong as I love Jennifer.

Ok. Fair point.
 
This show is made for women to watch on their iPads.

Most of you saw the trailer. Tell me if this looks like a $15 million an episode show?

Apple is like the new kid who is buying drugs for the first time and over pays for his first dime bag, but for streaming content lol
 
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Well I think there was just a story put out by MR today that said the price of Arcade is going to be $4.99/mo. Now that I can see as being totally worth it for someone who plays lots of iOS/Mac/TV games, and there are more out there than you think.

Yeah if I subscribed to Arcade, News, TV, Music, plus my non-Apple subscriptions like Netflix, Hulu, HBO, and the like, then I would have to spend nearly every waking moment on an Apple device and that's just not feasible haha. But to be fair, I think even Apple realizes this and that might be why they don't want to bundle them all together just yet. For example, some people might be huge news and magazine junkies but not really gamers or TV watchers, so ten bucks a month makes sense for them. Or people who just absolutely love games but hardly ever read magazines. Though I imagine they'll offer them as a bundle in the not too distant future. Probably just trying to see what's popular and what's not so they can bundle them appropriately.
Yeah, but that's exactly why you want to bundle together. I have an advertising minor that I haven't done much with, lol, but from what I remember you just want people to see value in something. It doesn't matter if they actually use it as long as you can get them to buy or subscribe to it. That's a big reason why you always see things buy one get one half off, or even on things like in-game microtransations for skins you'll have a limited time skin that just came out and it will list the regular price and then the marked down price, even though it never sold for that price before and was sold for that price the entire time it was available. People want to "get in" on a deal. A lot of people see the perceived "value" of a bundle and how they can get everything together for "one low price" or however it's pitched. That gamer might not ever go out of their way to buy into Apple News+, but if you bundle it with everything else and they're paying a few bucks a month for something they never use? That's money in Apple's pocket and in the pockets of the content creators. I know it doesn't make sense to people with common sense like us, but so many people fall victim to this sort of marketing.

One other scenario is the family one. I could see a family bundle being huge once more content is added. There are more varieties of interest. Just taking our family for example, I'm into gaming and my wife likes reading magazines. We both listen to music and there are some shows on Apple TV+ that one might be interested in but not the other, and maybe one so far that we might both like. In our case, a bundle might make sense because we have enough varied interest. Then there are our kids, who don't use devices much, but my daughter just started kindergarten and will get an iPad through school before long and will start having her own tastes in music as well. My son is a couple years behind her. They're also making children's shows on Apple TV+. If they could bundle all of that for around $35/mo and it works across all of our devices and includes 2TB shared iCloud storage, that could be a good value for our family. It all depends on the pricing and content, but I think a bundle makes more sense for families than it does for the majority of individual users.
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The reason Disney can afford to lower their pricing is that their offerings are mostly already available from their catalog.
It doesn't matter why, to the consumer. It's all about the value.
 
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Yeah, but that's exactly why you want to bundle together. I have an advertising minor that I haven't done much with, lol, but from what I remember you just want people to see value in something. It doesn't matter if they actually use it as long as you can get them to buy or subscribe to it. That's a big reason why you always see things buy one get one half off, or even on things like in-game microtransations for skins you'll have a limited time skin that just came out and it will list the regular price and then the marked down price, even though it never sold for that price before and was sold for that price the entire time it was available. People want to "get in" on a deal. A lot of people see the perceived "value" of a bundle and how they can get everything together for "one low price" or however it's pitched. That gamer might not ever go out of their way to buy into Apple News+, but if you bundle it with everything else and they're paying a few bucks a month for something they never use? That's money in Apple's pocket and in the pockets of the content creators. I know it doesn't make sense to people with common sense like us, but so many people fall victim to this sort of marketing.

One other scenario is the family one. I could see a family bundle being huge once more content is added. There are more varieties of interest. Just taking our family for example, I'm into gaming and my wife likes reading magazines. We both listen to music and there are some shows on Apple TV+ that one might be interested in but not the other, and maybe one so far that we might both like. In our case, a bundle might make sense because we have enough varied interest. Then there are our kids, who don't use devices much, but my daughter just started kindergarten and will get an iPad through school before long and will start having her own tastes in music as well. My son is a couple years behind her. They're also making children's shows on Apple TV+. If they could bundle all of that for around $35/mo and it works across all of our devices and includes 2TB shared iCloud storage, that could be a good value for our family. It all depends on the pricing and content, but I think a bundle makes more sense for families than it does for the majority of individual users.
Ah you raise a good point about the family thing that someone like myself, a young single guy, naturally would not think of first lol. Although I do recall from Apple's services keynote earlier this year that they will be making at least some of the new services shareable across families. Sort of like how you can already do that with Music and iCloud storage.

But before you say it haha, I know, a bundle with everything included right off the bat would be better than subscribing to each one individually and sharing them. And I'm sure Apple will bring that fairly soon. As I said in my last comment, I wouldn't subscribe to all of these things separately because it would be expensive and there's no way I would have the kind of time necessary for making each subscription worth the price for me. But $40/mo or whatever for everything Apple offers AND I can share it with my family? Yeah you better believe I'll peep the Arcade or check out a magazine or two ;)
 
I watched the trailer a couple of times and as much as it intrigues me, I doubt I’ll watch it. Just my $.02, but certainly promising to see what Apple is capable of.
 
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