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Summary of the keynote:
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LMAO! Love it!
[doublepost=1465860127][/doublepost]I think the biggest thing to take from this conference is that there is now an entire watch os version that includes minnie mouse.

AND....

get this, you can change the color of her dress. Coming in 2017, an API that lets you develpers write apps that change the color of minnie's dress because apple only supplies 2 colors by default.

In messages, you can make the text bigger...and smaller (applause!!). But there is more!!! You can also make the font bold (standing ovation).

Just one more thing...

The background can change too... *people drop dead in their seats from the excitement*


had to troll a little
 
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Seems like redesign of the lock screen and interactions there along with widget and notifications would be a quite a fair bit for many people. The photos improvements will be as well. Don't think many were expecting anything drastically new/different--basically it's mostly about expectations (and how realistic they might be).

Could be. I was however surprised by the live play-by-play comments from CNET, Verge, and others. Even the audience really didn't get into most of it. It didn't come across as a "positive" event.
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LMAO! Love it!
[doublepost=1465860127][/doublepost]I think the biggest thing to take from this conference is that there is now an entire watch os version that includes minnie mouse.

AND....

get this, you can change the color of her dress. Coming in 2017, an API that lets you develpers write apps that change the color of minnie's dress because apple only supplies 2 colors by default.

In messages, you can make the text bigger...and smaller (applause!!). But there is more!!! You can also make the font bold (standing ovation).

Just one more thing...

The background can change too... *people drop dead in their seats from the excitement*

had to troll a little

ROTFLMMFAO!!! :D

Do you by any chance do product shot commercials?
 
I wonder if any of the people claiming its a software/developer conference are actually developers. I felt that developers were not the primary audience for this keynote.

If they can spend an hour talking about iMessage gimmicks or another bad interface for Apple Music, surely they could slot in something about Swift or Metal? More than the "btw there's an API" that we got for most of the "features"
 
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Carl Icann used to get inside huge bloated companies, replace the board and get the idiot entitled CEO fired.

Why he just sold the stock and didn't do this for Apple ?
 
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At some parts the presenters were begging for applause! Eg - the swift playground coding keyboard

There were a few good features but a lot of filling for time.
 
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4 months waiting for the anoucement of new hardware, especially the macbook air...
 
I wonder if any of the people claiming its a software/developer conference are actually developers. I felt that developers were not the primary audience for this keynote.

If they can spend an hour talking about iMessage gimmicks or another bad interface for Apple Music, surely they could slot in something about Swift or Metal? More than the "btw there's an API" that we got for most of the "features"
The whole week is full of developer talks and meet ups, the keynote was more of a public thing to highlight what's coming up (both from the consumer and developer point of view, and both were mentioned).
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All fluff and no substance. The long wait for new hardware continues.

4 months waiting for the anoucement of new hardware, especially the macbook air...
Not that this was really an expected place for those.
 
The thing that disappointed me the most, given that we all sort of knew there wasn't going to be any hardware, was the fact that they spent like two minutes on MacOS. It seemed to get the least attention out of anything introduced today. It doesn't bode well for the future, at least. And yes, many of the things introduced in iOS seemed gimmicky and they spent far too much time on it. I'm not a "hater" for thinking this was an underwhelming keynote.
 
Feels less like a developer conference and more like a self congratulatory ode to corporate diversity with a healthy slice of gimmick.

I was SERIOUSLY expecting more from iOS 10!

I was stoked when he said this was going to be the biggest iOS release ever with 10 tent pole features.

As he was going along I kept thinking ok, theres 5 more features left lets see, then 4, then 3...2...1...HUGE let down this time!

WAIT! ...One more thing!

*displays bee-boppy little video of all the mediocre features*

WTF?!

Felt like a slap in the face lol, never gonna trust a "one more thing" from Apple again.
 
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I wonder if any of the people claiming its a software/developer conference are actually developers. I felt that developers were not the primary audience for this keynote.

If they can spend an hour talking about iMessage gimmicks or another bad interface for Apple Music, surely they could slot in something about Swift or Metal? More than the "btw there's an API" that we got for most of the "features"

Agree - felt more like (especially iOS and Swift) it was aimed at the teenage and younger generation.
Bells, whistles, stickers, big bubbles, and emoji, Oh My!

Felt like someone there should have done a Clara Peller.
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The thing that disappointed me the most, given that we all sort of knew there wasn't going to be any hardware, was the fact that they spent like two minutes on MacOS. It seemed to get the least attention out of anything introduced today. It doesn't bode well for the future, at least. And yes, many of the things introduced in iOS seemed gimmicky and they spent far too much time on it. I'm not a "hater" for thinking this was an underwhelming keynote.

One aspect I look at in these is that if I use a competing function (ex: Google Maps), what presented would entice me to use the featured function instead?
From that perspective I saw very little, if that much.
Disappointing.
 
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If Apple and Windows
Worst WWDC in years.

Phil Schiller needs a new fire up his ass to start innovating again.

Text effects and emojis, you must be ****ing kidding...

And the state of affairs with the Mac Pro is going from Pathetic to Utterly Hopeless.
its appears how our feelings are more important than work related Mac Pro or any hardwares.
 
Agree - felt more like (especially iOS and Swift) it was aimed at the teenage and younger generation.
Bells, whistles, stickers, big bubbles, and emoji, Oh My!

Felt like someone there should have done a Clara Peller.
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One aspect I look at in these is that if I use a competing function (ex: Google Maps), what presented would entice me to use the featured function instead?
From that perspective I saw very little, if that much.
Disappointing.
I don't know, there are likely more than plenty older people that are using emojis and all kinds of other "fun" things in various other existing messaging apps/platforms already as well.
 
Of course there's new hardware.

They just didn't announce it today.

Or yesterday, or last month, or this year, and generally except for the MB nothing in a year Mac-wise.

Not even giving the Air a current gen processor (let along more pixels) with no new MBPs either - so nothing except the underpowered, underported, untypeable (for many), overpriced PinkBook except for past their prime and moldering form factors.

People who rely on me for advice on when to buy new Macs haven't heard much in a long time. Right now it's more that one still can't find a non-twitchy touch pad experience on a Win machine that keeps me - well that and a few apps (for which there are equivalents or other platform versions).

And the brand prestige so hard won is turning from aspirational to faux haute coutre (although that's kind of an oxymoron. Sir Jony, Angela A and Tim have no non-precious vision.

I thought I was the only aghast spectator in the forums until I started noticing that every month there are more long faces here. But I don't think the management team is listening (nor that they care much about what mere users are looking for).
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I can't believe anyone would skip work to watch a Keynote.

It used to be worth doing...
 
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one thing that i am tired of is them saying they have paid out so much money to developers. So they've almost paid out $50 Billion?? If you take out Microsoft products, Adobe products, Angry Birds, and the rest of the huge publishers how much does that number go down to?

I imagine that statement would be more correct if they said, .."Paid almost $50 Billion to corporations". The other small percent goes to those who've managed, through hook or crook, to get into the top 10, breaking the mold but thats few and far between. I mean, do they think we are really that stupid?
 
You mean SMS?
If you don't have an iPhone you don't have an iPhone...

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Just wait for the related keynote.

These days, who knows if the person on the receiving end has an iPhone. Which further leads to the point, why did they spend so much time talking about it if it relies on both ends having an iDevice? If you have to be cognizant of the recipient's device, who is going to use it?
 
Minnie Mouse, the old flapper girl, has relatives too:

The comic strip story "Mr. Slicker and the Egg Robbers" (published September 22–December 26, 1930) introduced her father Marcus Mouse and her unnamed mother, both farmers. The same story featured photographs of Minnie's uncle Milton Mouse with his family and her grandparents Marshal Mouse and Matilda Mouse. Her best known relatives, however, remain her uncle Mortimer Mouse and her twin nieces, Millie and Melody Mouse, though most often a single niece, Melody, appears.

So many new watch faces! I think Mortimer will appeal to the youngsters and attract them to become smartwatch programmers.
 
Oh it's not about the girl. If it was a 9 year old boy, my response would change ZERO.

You are right, it's healthy to have a perfect balance, but you can't tell me that you as a parent are allowing your children to decide this balance or do you still control and ensure that they are exposed to both? If the latter, you are just a smart parent and are aware. But most parents aren't like you. Most parents will get this app and think it's beneficial for my child and whalla.. child got a brand new parent.

And please don't misunderstand me picking on this little girl. I'm not picking on her and absolutely think there should be more female developers. I have had the pleasure to work with and interview many different developers and trust me when I say, women skills were no different from men's and both sides had people that excelled greatly. I also was very lucky to be able to draw offers and did so, in my opinion, in a fair manner not singling out man & women. That said, I won't lie, my co-workers did downrate women. So the issue is there, it's just not what I was saying.
I had been letting my 11 year old decide for herself the balance because she's naturally well balanced, or at least she has been since she was a toddler. She will do a little bit of this, a little bit of that without much nagging or direction from me...usually. But like the older kids in the family who preceded her, the further into puberty she gets, the more I have to direct her or her tendency now is to become a sofa slug with the iPad or books. Books are great but everyone needs to balance reading with exercise.

TV is not an issue in our house. Only my husband watches a few programs. I haven't followed a program since Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended. Edit, correction: I watched Backyardigans, Scooby Doo and Transformers with the kids. I have a rule: Everything the kids watch, I watch with them.

I agree with you in that children aren't getting enough of a childhood these days, and I acknowledge and agree with your concerns. But it's always been true that any resource can become a crutch and a detriment in the hands of lazy or uninvolved parents.

What I like about Swift Playgrounds is that it will enable even a child to learn a useful skill and give him or her an outlet for creativity and problem solving and imagination, while also being a boredom buster. It's a win-win proposition and better than more passive entertainment.

I think it's also a fantastic opportunity for non technical moms and dads to try and pick up a new skill as well, along with their children. I can't wait to sit down with my daughter and see what there is to learn and what we can create.

I haven't tried to write a program since I tried to make this really stupid Artificial Intelligence simulation in Atari Basic in 1985. It was pathetic. But I am not stupid and I have some better ideas so I'd like to give Swift a try. It's never too late!
 
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No I get that it's a learning tool, but why don't we just start teaching advanced bio chemistry to children so they have a headstart? Create a cute little app. It's very very unhealthy.

As for video games, yes, I enjoyed them too as a child. But I also played outside, I had friends, I had social skills (which are very important later in life). I'm looking around and it's the same things everywhere; in restaurants, waiting areas, even in parks!! I wish I was generalizing but I don't think I am. Typical scenario: kid screams, mom gives kid iPad, you could see kid is no longer aware of his surroundings. Mom says "enough computer time", kid screams bloody murder, dad gives kid iPhone.

Trips, anywhere you go, parent's don't spend time with their kids. Kids are raised by iPads & iPhones. Very few have any social skills whatsoever. And even those coming out of highschool, are just as bad. I was trying to hire an entry level developer and a lot of these kids that interviewed did cool things as kids (program wise). But had ZERO social skills, were depressed, had severe mental issues (not a psychiatrist, just an observation). Just saying, when a child is a child, they learn the skills that will allow them to grow up. In the end I hired someone who had luckluster computer skills, but was very excited and had the ability to learn fast. His childhood almost had virtually no tech time except some basic video games. I've been mentoring this kid for a few years, and he has already surpassed knowledge of many adult developers. And he is able to lead meetings, talk non-programming language with non-techies. Very striking contrast from someone who knew nothing but computers growing up.

They will learn this stuff anyway. Otherwise they are "smart" when they are a kid and but become useless as adults because anyone can learn this stuff, but not everyone can do it in a manner that is useful to anyone. And hoping that a kid makes a million dollar app, well, play the lottery instead.

I guess my complaint, instead of teaching kids how to program create an app, that detects other kids in the room and shuts off all electronics in the room until the kids start talking to each other. I promise you, that would be 80 times more beneficial to children then a f*ing learn swift app.

These days it's all about making apps and having apps for s**t like toothbrushes to wearable socks with bluetooth. Let the children be children - playing outside, learning how to co-exist with each other and having taught the fundamentals of a good human being with social studies and building relationships with each other.

Turn off your iGadget all that hard work is gone. Turn off your computer none of these 70/80/90hr week programming skills will exist. It's a stupid computer but we are headed towards that road where we rely so much on technology once we shut off our gadgets we breakdown and go into deep depression.

Programming is a very mundane job. You spend countless hours in front of a computer and the end result is the same - shut off the damn thing and all your work is invisible.

BUT we live in a capitalistic world and the pursuit of material things for oneself is greater than anything else. Whatever brings in the cash i guess.
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Just wow. They spent longer on iMessage than they did on macOS.

Well look at Snapchat - wtf is that app good for? Tons of stupid animations and funny stamps. All for the joy of being vain as f88k. That's the world we live in folks. When a messaging app like snapchat is worth what, $7billion? companies that make pure water for 3rd world countries drinkable isn't even worth 10% of snapchat. Yet we value how apps can make us even more vain than ever.

Apple doesn't want to loose the # of users. If people start using snapchat more and more or the next best chat app instead of iMessage what's the point of using an iPhone? That's why you won't see iMessage on any other platform except for iOS. And not to forget that there are tons of users in china apple wants to capture. Chinese love vanity apps and this is right up their alley. Today's presentation of features isn't necessarily for american audiences it's really for the love of china.
 
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