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Yeah - what is up with that??? WTF is going on? It's all for China's consumer smartphone market now - completely different company.
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It's actually beginning to hurt.

Ok,this is the worst ever WWDC i haven't seen,happy i haven't lost time with this Cookies
 
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That's not confirmation bias, they didn't release hardware at a number of WWDCs before the rMBP. Actually read my post, my point was that just because it's WWDC doesn't mean there's no chance for hardware. Again, I already acknowledged that I know it's software focused, but it's not unreasonable to expect some kind of announcement given they've done it in the past and the lack of Mac updates. Good try though.

Your point would be fine expect that they were responding to the "Apple has lost it's way because there was no hardware announced" posts. I clearly understand that its possible and has happened multiple times in the past. But there were insider tips saying "Nope, no hardware" and people still didn't manage their expectations.

I wouldn't have been surprised if there was hardware, but I was not at all surprised that it didn't happen. But lots of people are freaking out about this just because they had unreasonable expectations.

So telling people to "get over themselves" when they are pointing out that these people were unreasonably expecting hardware is a little over the top.
 
My notes from the event - watch via Apple and commentary from CNET.

My summary: So much cosmetic I think JI has a new supplier. Loreal? Revlon? :rolleyes:

Notes:
  • Video on the watch screen. Will there be a swing away magnify face for the watch?
  • Siri getting an IQ increase? Siri was promoted to 1st grade. Lot's of expansion of use, almost no increase in smarts
  • Apple TV improvement.... marginal. When do we get the real stuff? Lot's of fluff
  • iCloud - the most broken Cloud system around. Adding without fixing. Ouch. Wonder how that device to device swipe will really work.
  • Dumb Siri on the MacOS .... Not really useful. Give Siri a makeover / brain instead.
Intermission: so far am not seeing anything "earthshaking". serious yawn so far

  • Cosmetic lock screen update - how much do we actually do from the LS? Quick view at most... Maybe a quick reply.
  • Swipe up the right (or left) and you get additional widgets. Unlock and open app is quicker. Swipe/swipe or touch/touch...
  • Have my Apple Watch and iPhone and will look like I'm twerking trying to use some of this stuff... :eek:
  • Trying to follow Google Photos.... from 2014.
    • Trying to follow Google Photos.... more from 2015.
    • New. Exciting. So last year. :oops:
  • Maps.... enhancing a "not quite there" map app that doesn't replace Google Map - Apple Maps isn't good enough
    • Why would I ever use it?
    • What's my driver?
  • Apple Music - gets new makeup. wow. not. Please fix the functionality. Bold Font? Ouch!
    • Lyrics? Really? So Amazon 2013
  • Doesn't look like my iCrap folder is getting any smaller. Cosmetics doesn't cut it.
    • At least I can delete some?
  • Still no group messages and search is still broken ... sigh
    • More cosmetics.
    • New Super Sparkly look! OMG, somebody just kill iMessage and get a real app. Please :confused:
  • Why can't they make an iMessage that just works. What a circus it is turning into. Barnum would laugh!
  • ... and all you see on your watch is a single big letter... Yep.
  • Let's break iMessage and cover it with a band-aid sticker...
Final: :(
  • My score on a 0-10 scale for this ... 3.
  • Sigh..... pretty much a waste of time this was.
  • A lot of makeup and very little "It's Simple and It Just Works".
  • Nothing from pretty much anyone's Top Ten Must Have list.
  • It's like they spent a lot of time trying to catch up and didn't. No "killer" function.
 
My notes from the event - watch via Apple and commentary from CNET.

My summary: So much cosmetic I think JI has a new supplier. Loreal? Revlon? :rolleyes:

Notes:
  • Video on the watch screen. Will there be a swing away magnify face for the watch?
  • Siri getting an IQ increase? Siri was promoted to 1st grade. Lot's of expansion of use, almost no increase in smarts
  • Apple TV improvement.... marginal. When do we get the real stuff? Lot's of fluff
  • iCloud - the most broken Cloud system around. Adding without fixing. Ouch. Wonder how that device to device swipe will really work.
  • Dumb Siri on the MacOS .... Not really useful. Give Siri a makeover / brain instead.
Intermission: so far am not seeing anything "earthshaking". serious yawn so far

  • Cosmetic lock screen update - how much do we actually do from the LS? Quick view at most... Maybe a quick reply.
  • Swipe up the right (or left) and you get additional widgets. Unlock and open app is quicker. Swipe/swipe or touch/touch...
  • Have my Apple Watch and iPhone and will look like I'm twerking trying to use some of this stuff... :eek:
  • Trying to follow Google Photos.... from 2014.
    • Trying to follow Google Photos.... more from 2015.
    • New. Exciting. So last year. :oops:
  • Maps.... enhancing a "not quite there" map app that doesn't replace Google Map - Apple Maps isn't good enough
    • Why would I ever use it?
  • Apple Music - gets new makeup. wow. not. Please fix the functionality. Bold Font? Ouch!
    • Lyrics? Really? So Amazon 2013
  • Doesn't look like my iCrap folder is getting any smaller. Cosmetics doesn't cut it.
    • At least I can delete some?
  • Still no group messages and search is still broken ... sigh
    • More cosmetics.
    • New Super Sparkly look! OMG, somebody just kill iMessage and get a real app. Please :confused:
  • Why can't they make an iMessage that just works. What a circus it is turning into. Barnum would laugh!
  • ... and all you see on your watch is a single big letter... Yep.
  • Let's break iMessage and cover it with a band-aid sticker...
Final: :(
  • My score on a 0-10 scale for this ... 3.
  • Sigh..... pretty much a waste of time this was.
  • A lot of makeup and very little "It's Simple and It Just Works".
  • Nothing from pretty much anyone's Top Ten Must Have list.
Given how many here would often talk about uninstalling various stock apps, that alone comes off of a top ten list for many (here and places similar to this one) it would seem.
 
What happens when you send one of those fancy new messages to someone who doesn't have an iPhone? Do they just see little aliens all over the screen??

How about when you send one like that oversized "DONE" to an Apple Watch?
See just the "O" unless you swipe?
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Given how many here would often talk about uninstalling various stock apps, that alone comes off of a top ten list for many (here and places similar to this one) it would seem.

There were a couple. I was really surprised at the minimal amount of improved or new functionality.
I will be glad to "delete" all my iCrap folder apps.
 
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Summary of the keynote:
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How about when you send one like that oversized "DONE" to an Apple Watch?
See just the "O" unless you swipe?
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There were a couple. I was really surprised at the minimal amount of improved or new functionality.
I will be glad to "delete" all my iCrap folder apps.
Seems like redesign of the lock screen and interactions there along with widget and notifications would be a quite a fair bit for many people. The photos improvements will be as well. Don't think many were expecting anything drastically new/different--basically it's mostly about expectations (and how realistic they might be).
 
Can those trolls please go back to their Android, Samsung or whatever forums?
Is it so boring over there that it's more fun hindering us to discuss?
I think that it was a good keynote. Lots of good functionality to come.
Good that they focus on software (developer! conference).
Andy
 
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people say it is a develop conference so it's ok to just talk about software ?

it's like developers don't use mac minis, mac pros, mac books pros or apple displays.

Tim needs to be fired and fast
 
Dear god, the worst Steve Jobs keynote was 10000x better than this...
Seems like people have some rather imaginary expectations and recollections of the past.
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people say it is a develop conference so it's ok to just talk about software ?

it's like developers don't use mac minis, mac pros, mac books pros or apple displays.

Tim needs to be fired and fast
They do use those devices, it's just that the conference isn't about that.
 
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this is like an interactive learning game though...
I do agree w you that kids are spending many hours behind a tv, but is that bad? I did the same watching tv when I was a kid and was able to play many outside games throughout my childhood. Kids these days need friends and places to play safe that is what we are missing. When I was little we used to grab skateboards as makeshift goals and start playing soccer w random kids that were playing games around the area. Nowadays you do that and your skateboard/ball/pants are gone

No I get that it's a learning tool, but why don't we just start teaching advanced bio chemistry to children so they have a headstart? Create a cute little app. It's very very unhealthy.

As for video games, yes, I enjoyed them too as a child. But I also played outside, I had friends, I had social skills (which are very important later in life). I'm looking around and it's the same things everywhere; in restaurants, waiting areas, even in parks!! I wish I was generalizing but I don't think I am. Typical scenario: kid screams, mom gives kid iPad, you could see kid is no longer aware of his surroundings. Mom says "enough computer time", kid screams bloody murder, dad gives kid iPhone.

Trips, anywhere you go, parent's don't spend time with their kids. Kids are raised by iPads & iPhones. Very few have any social skills whatsoever. And even those coming out of highschool, are just as bad. I was trying to hire an entry level developer and a lot of these kids that interviewed did cool things as kids (program wise). But had ZERO social skills, were depressed, had severe mental issues (not a psychiatrist, just an observation). Just saying, when a child is a child, they learn the skills that will allow them to grow up. In the end I hired someone who had luckluster computer skills, but was very excited and had the ability to learn fast. His childhood almost had virtually no tech time except some basic video games. I've been mentoring this kid for a few years, and he has already surpassed knowledge of many adult developers. And he is able to lead meetings, talk non-programming language with non-techies. Very striking contrast from someone who knew nothing but computers growing up.

They will learn this stuff anyway. Otherwise they are "smart" when they are a kid and but become useless as adults because anyone can learn this stuff, but not everyone can do it in a manner that is useful to anyone. And hoping that a kid makes a million dollar app, well, play the lottery instead.

I guess my complaint, instead of teaching kids how to program create an app, that detects other kids in the room and shuts off all electronics in the room until the kids start talking to each other. I promise you, that would be 80 times more beneficial to children then a f*ing learn swift app.
 
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I just wonder how much longer the iWatch will be around until it has a silent funeral? I know quite a few people who dashed out to buy them and now no longer wear them.
Seems like the OS is getting better and better for it. And there hasn't even been a new hardware revision that will breathe even more life into it all. Sounds like we are ways off from any of what you bring up.
 
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I suppose we were all looking for specifics to meet some of our development needs. I found the move to better integrate macOS with IOS devices somewhat a relief. Perhaps we will see this reflected in the next iteration of hardware too. Also, an awareness of the greater world market was evident. Wondering when Apple will present keynote level developer's conferences in India and China.
 
Who says they can't do both? Kids play. They get bored. They get hobbies. Mine likes to crochet. All of the kids seem to like to build Minecraft stuff when the weather is bad or they have some downtime without their friends.

I think it's great a little girl has native interest or was encouraged to pursue an interest in tech. Nobody seems to bat an eyelash at a little boy obsessed with his science kit or a little girl sitting quietly knitting or making beaded bracelets, but if a little girl shows up at a developers conference why assume she was coerced into it? She looked thrilled to be there to me.

Oh it's not about the girl. If it was a 9 year old boy, my response would change ZERO.

You are right, it's healthy to have a perfect balance, but you can't tell me that you as a parent are allowing your children to decide this balance or do you still control and ensure that they are exposed to both? If the latter, you are just a smart parent and are aware. But most parents aren't like you. Most parents will get this app and think it's beneficial for my child and whalla.. child got a brand new parent.

And please don't misunderstand me picking on this little girl. I'm not picking on her and absolutely think there should be more female developers. I have had the pleasure to work with and interview many different developers and trust me when I say, women skills were no different from men's and both sides had people that excelled greatly. I also was very lucky to be able to draw offers and did so, in my opinion, in a fair manner not singling out man & women. That said, I won't lie, my co-workers did downrate women. So the issue is there, it's just not what I was saying.
 
It was a developer/software conference, not surprised that hardware was not releases. I am surprised that the only desktop graphics card in a Mac is 3 years old... and that they didn't give us a sustainability/green energy update. Overall solid B-. Sometimes I wonder if Apple is just busy building their new home.... and it will be few years before they start back full time.
 
I was fine with no hardware release. After all, most of the lineup is only a few years old. I am still happy as long as I get my rebuilt iTunes and music app........ Oh wait.
 
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I like a lot of the new features announced.

  • SOS on AppleWatch
  • I'm glad they brought back locations to Photos
  • The more intelligent moments in Photos is also really cool, plus the ability to automatically create a video (ala iMovie Trailers)
  • It's great to finally be able to have Skype deeply integrated into the OS
  • Text transcriptions of voicemail
  • The ability to have apps integrate with the caller ID and see what might be spam, and not, etc
  • I actually think the messages additions are really nice and fun. I'll definitely be using them with my family. (I'm 26, not 12)
  • The ability to store files off in the cloud to save on storage space is awesome! To have that deeply integrated with the OS is amazing to say the least.

I mean the list goes on. I was really, really pleased with the announcements made. But it seems that I'm in the minority.

You are not. Let the trolls troll. :)
 
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