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These days, who knows if the person on the receiving end has an iPhone. Which further leads to the point, why did they spend so much time talking about it if it relies on both ends having an iDevice? If you have to be cognizant of the recipient's device, who is going to use it?
Most of my family uses iDevices (wife, son, father, sister, brother, niece etc.).
If they don't have an iDevice they might get SMS or Mail.
I don't chat with people that don't have an iDevice.
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These days, who knows if the person on the receiving end has an iPhone. Which further leads to the point, why did they spend so much time talking about it if it relies on both ends having an iDevice? If you have to be cognizant of the recipient's device, who is going to use it?
If you chat a lot with random strangers, you might be right. You could send your heartbeat and a cute little flower that you drew, and you wouldn't know whether the stranger got it or not.

If most of your messages are within a close friends or family, you tend to know what devices they have.
 
Most of my family uses iDevices (wife, son, father, sister, brother, niece etc.).
If they don't have an iDevice they might get SMS or Mail.
I don't chat with people that don't have an iDevice.
Andy

If you chat a lot with random strangers, you might be right. You could send your heartbeat and a cute little flower that you drew, and you wouldn't know whether the stranger got it or not.

If most of your messages are within a close friends or family, you tend to know what devices they have.

Well most people I chat with use Android devices, so the cutesy little message enhancements they demoed are mostly useless.
 
Carl Icann used to get inside huge bloated companies, replace the board and get the idiot entitled CEO fired.

Why he just sold the stock and didn't do this for Apple ?
I bet Warren Buffet was none to pleased having recently made heavy investments in Apple. They just don't seem to be able to innovate any more. If a watch is the best they can come up with then can the last one to leave the building please switch the light off.
 
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Overall, I was pretty happy with everything (despite the cringeworthy Apple Music presentation - Note to Apple: stop trying to be overly hip, its atrocious).

Relieved to know I wasn't the only one who thought that part was awful. I actually turned the volume off and waited for it to end.
 
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Spoiler alert...no new MacBook Pro's...bummer...

It's a dev conference. Not a hardware conference.
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I bet Warren Buffet was none to pleased having recently made heavy investments in Apple either. They just don't seem to be able to innovate any more. If a watch is the best they can come up with then can the last one to leave the building please switch the light off.

He didn't buy it for himself. He gave the money to buy it for someone else
 
I hate to brag.... but I called no dark mode.

No dark mode, no OLED display in 2016 on the iPhone.
Dark mode will come next year, and we may expect a complete overhaul of iOS for the 10th anniversary of iPhone. But it is too early to talk about that
 
The whole week is full of developer talks and meet ups, the keynote was more of a public thing to highlight what's coming up (both from the consumer and developer point of view, and both were mentioned).
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Not that this was really an expected place for those.

They've always used the WWDC Keynote to announce new hardware in the past.

Add in that 100% of those attending and 99% of those watching on the web are Mac users and I would say that it's very much the right place to announce new hardware.

Some of us run businesses and need to plan ahead. We need to know when new Macs are launching. I really think the time has come for Apple to re-introduce a Mac only event/keynote. Maybe bring back the MacWorld Conference in January every year. That way we're not eagerly awaiting every keynote to see if there is any Mac hardware announcements.
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Most of my family uses iDevices (wife, son, father, sister, brother, niece etc.).
If they don't have an iDevice they might get SMS or Mail.
I don't chat with people that don't have an iDevice.
Andy

I would say you are very much in the minority.
 
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Dark mode was introduced for tvOS.
This actually makes sense if you think about it. Your Mac and your TV are in relatively consistent lighting environments, so a static dark mode settings will often times look consistently acceptable. However, your phone must perform in the brightest and darkest environments and everything in between. Apple is going to want to improve that experience while also giving you reason to buy a new iPhone. My prediction is that they are likely to build sensor/display tech in the next iPhone to dynamically vary the display depending on your environment. Maybe the next evolution of the true tone technology introduced in the iPad pro? If it's hardware dependent, then of course they would leave it out of the beta and introduce it as a selling point when the new iPhone is announced instead.
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I hate to brag.... but I called no dark mode.
This actually makes sense if you think about it. Your Mac and your TV are in relatively consistent lighting environments, so a static dark mode settings will often times look consistently acceptable. However, your phone must perform in the brightest and darkest environments and everything in between. Apple is going to want to improve that experience while also giving you reason to buy a new iPhone. My prediction is that they are likely to build sensor/display tech in the next iPhone to dynamically vary the display depending on your environment.

Maybe the next evolution of the true tone technology introduced in the iPad pro? If it's hardware dependent, then of course they would leave it out of the beta and introduce it as a selling point when the new iPhone is announced instead.
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Man, this was an awful WWDC.
Some nice features on every OS but nothing earth shattering.
Endless demos of ordinary features.
Some of those Craig/Cue jokes are starting to get old. Time to move on.
Too many presenters (iMessage couple, lady on Music demo and Swift Playground woman)
Lack of hardware.

I have been following keynotes for many, many years and this one is one of the worst ones.


Uh...your not the intended audience then. "When you make everything about you, your world gets awfully small" -quote by me, no one else.

Snarky response aside (my apologies), we all need to remember that this is a developer conference. The only people among us who should be really excited are those that work in, or profit from, third party software development. Well... and detail nuts like me that get excited when maps allows you to search POI's along your existing rout. (gateway to full featured multi point routing anyone?)
 
They've always used the WWDC Keynote to announce new hardware in the past.

Add in that 100% of those attending and 99% of those watching on the web are Mac users and I would say that it's very much the right place to announce new hardware.

Some of us run businesses and need to plan ahead. We need to know when new Macs are launching. I really think the time has come for Apple to re-introduce a Mac only event/keynote. Maybe bring back the MacWorld Conference in January every year. That way we're not eagerly awaiting every keynote to see if there is any Mac hardware announcements.
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I would say you are very much in the minority.
Always?
 
No new hardware? Apple has lost their minds.

It WWDC aka (Work Wide DEVELOPERS Conference), it is meant for DEVELOPERS not consumers. Plus if Apple unveiled everything in one event for the year, they would lose the attention of the public. We don't have the attention span anymore for one event a year.

I will say that with the release of iOS 10 this fall we can expect to see a new iPhone launched aside it. They aren't going to release a new iPhone without new software, but they could always release new software with out new iPhone. But I don't think they would do that.
 
How do I make money from a collapse of apple stock value? This year is completely rubbish. Apple used to deliver very nice gear where the software were a minimalistic enabler. Now they are following Microsoft and make their products a container for useless bloatware. Long gone are the days of "it just works". Im sure of that if Jobs was alive Tim would have got a escort out of the building by some big boys with sidearms, and a big bag with dollars of cource.
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It's a developer's conference! What did you expect?
I have only seen power-points. if developers were their expected audience they would have shown a lot of code. This is the platform for product marketing nothing else.
 
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I would say you are very much in the minority.
The minority of what. People using iPhones?
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Well most people I chat with use Android devices, so the cutesy little message enhancements they demoed are mostly useless.

Then why don't you use whatsapp?
I've heard that it's not bad.
Well if you like Zuckerberg logging your chats...
 
The minority of what. People using iPhones?
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Then why don't you use whatsapp?
I've heard that it's not bad.
Well if you like Zuckerberg logging your chats...

I don't need whatsapp or the new message big emojii or fireworks, simple text works fine. My whole point was that spending that much time on those specific enhancements during the keynote was a huge waste of time, especially as far as developers are concerned.
 
They've always used the WWDC Keynote to announce new hardware in the past.

Add in that 100% of those attending and 99% of those watching on the web are Mac users and I would say that it's very much the right place to announce new hardware.

Some of us run businesses and need to plan ahead. We need to know when new Macs are launching. I really think the time has come for Apple to re-introduce a Mac only event/keynote. Maybe bring back the MacWorld Conference in January every year. That way we're not eagerly awaiting every keynote to see if there is any Mac hardware announcements.
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Trouble with that idea is given the dearth of new Mac hardware of late it could be a very short event. :rolleyes:
 
No dark mode, no OLED display in 2016 on the iPhone.
Dark mode will come next year, and we may expect a complete overhaul of iOS for the 10th anniversary of iPhone. But it is too early to talk about that

You are dreaming. No dark mode is ever coming in next 5 years :) Dark modes just don't make sense.
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Dark mode was introduced for tvOS.

Yeah, I know... I was talking about iOS. Makes sense on tvOS but I highly doubt it will ever come to iOS. I hope not.
 
You are dreaming. No dark mode is ever coming in next 5 years :) Dark modes just don't make sense.
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Yeah, I know... I was talking about iOS. Makes sense on tvOS but I highly doubt it will ever come to iOS. I hope not.

Clock App is already dark in iOS 10 and watchOS is dark from the very beginning.
Why it wouldn't make sense?
 
Clock App is already dark in iOS 10 and watchOS is dark from the very beginning.
Why it wouldn't make sense?
Because as soon as user opens safari or email, the background has to be white. And it would be like a smack in the head each time.
 
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