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Well, I have an iPhone X and use the Dreem ‘case’ that accompanies the Dreem folio - it magnetically snaps into the folio. I use JUST the case these days (have for months) - no folio. I have dropped my iPhone on all sorts of hard surfaces, many times. Never has the screen cracked. It’s a X...no fancy ceramic glass. Goes to show that all it really takes is the wrong trajectory/landing for a display to crack. Period.
I love the dreem folio case. Let’s me just carry the phone easily yet can have my wallet attached in a second
 
I can only speak for myself, but I’ve had the iPhone 12 Pro since launch and this is the best condition I’ve ever had an iPhone with 5 months of usage
As luck would have it, I got my first deep scratch this afternoon. I don’t even know how I got it, I made a conscious effort to keep my phone in separate pockets from my keys. Only my airpods were in the same pocket which is a pretty blunt item.
 
Sorry, I can't look at all there uneducated comments. If you really want to know why the phone landed on a gravel, not concrete, it's simple - legal. I work with this stuff, so I know. If the phone would have landed on concrete and was fine, Apple would face legal action again. They would be accused of false advertisement and so on. This was a safer bet to get a point across and to avoid legal issues. Hope this comment gets some up votes so people would see a reason behind this and wouldn't jump to a immature conclusion.
People aren't uneducated... They're simply pointing out how stupid it is to publish such an ad that has zero logic to it.
 
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Sorry, I can't look at all there uneducated comments. If you really want to know why the phone landed on a gravel, not concrete, it's simple - legal. I work with this stuff, so I know. If the phone would have landed on concrete and was fine, Apple would face legal action again. They would be accused of false advertisement and so on. This was a safer bet to get a point across and to avoid legal issues. Hope this comment gets some up votes so people would see a reason behind this and wouldn't jump to a immature conclusion.
Very few people are concerned about dropping their phone in the sand.

A lot of people, however, are deathly afraid of dropping their phone on the sidewalk or street.

Thus, this commercial is a ridiculous demo -- legal indemnification or not -- that simply demonstrates their hesitancy to show the phone to be durable, meaning, they shouldn't have even bothered as it makes them look a bit clueless.
 
What's an "ad"? On "TV"?

I remember watching "TV" back in the 90s - is it still on?

Hank: "But I’ve been having talks with Dick Cavett about the possibility of a co-host."

Artie: "Cavett? What’s he doing?"

Hank: "What’s he doing? Artie. He has his own talkshow on CNBC."

Artie: "CNBC? What the hell’s that? What’s that mean?"

Hank: "Don’t you know?"

Artie: "No. My TV stops at channel 13 the way it’s supposed to."
 
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Sorry, I can't look at all there uneducated comments. If you really want to know why the phone landed on a gravel, not concrete, it's simple - legal. I work with this stuff, so I know. If the phone would have landed on concrete and was fine, Apple would face legal action again. They would be accused of false advertisement and so on. This was a safer bet to get a point across and to avoid legal issues. Hope this comment gets some up votes so people would see a reason behind this and wouldn't jump to a immature conclusion.
You've just described what misleading advertising is then. Apple can afford another lawsuit if their claims don't stand up to the test.
 
All the people complaining about it landing on dirt. Do you really think it would’ve shown broken had it landed on concrete? :rolleyes:
 
Sorry, I can't look at all there uneducated comments. If you really want to know why the phone landed on a gravel, not concrete, it's simple - legal. I work with this stuff, so I know. If the phone would have landed on concrete and was fine, Apple would face legal action again. They would be accused of false advertisement and so on. This was a safer bet to get a point across and to avoid legal issues. Hope this comment gets some up votes so people would see a reason behind this and wouldn't jump to a immature conclusion.
Pretty sure people know this; that’s why they’re making fun of it.
 
Dropbox is the gold standard of cloud storage, whether you cared or not. I don't support them, but majority of enterprises do. I never see Apple reducing their cloud storage. The one that did that was Microsoft, because 5GB is the common rate for free. Majority of other cloud providers also offer 5GB as their free tiers. Google is the exception because they have a different business model.

iCloud is optional anyway, and it's 99cents for 50GB. Google doesn't even offer a 99cents tier. Shouldn't then you demand Google to offer 99cent tier if you want parity? :)
Dropbox got popular as it was one of the few who came on the scene first and offered cross-platform abilities. If that is the standard to gold then it’s a pretty low bar. Other services (some well known other not) offer a competitive, similar or better product. Just because something is well-known does not make it profitable or long lived, take for example RIM (BlackBerry), Nokia, Intel, etc. iPhone was a nobody in this space when it was introduce and now it’s has become a symbol of excellence, is it perfect no. In technology things are always improving and if iPhone does not stay relevant another player will push it just like RIM and Nokia. Many companies/governments that I am familiar with have been migrating to or have been using Microsoft for sometime as it has the capacity and capability to tackle these large corporation needs unlike Dropbox who could simply be purchase or fall into irrelevance. Just looks at the competition like Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc and you will see how gold standards means nothing in a constant tech space.

Maybe Apple knows that if it upgraded its free iCloud storage plan to 15-25GB their will be unable to collect on that $0.99 cents that I am sure their can afford as that 5GB is coming out from somewhere (price of device). Cost for mass storage have come down significantly over the years and we have a company here who is unwilling to provide its loyal users some goodwill, why not increase the $0.99/50GB plan to 100GB instead and align with storage pricing.

As an Apple investor I would support this move and FYI I don’t use iCloud and do pay for my cloud storage with another company.
 
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Dropbox got popular as it was one of the few who came on the scene first and offered cross-platform abilities. If that is the standard to gold then it’s a pretty low bar. Other services (some well known other not) offer a competitive, similar or better product. Just because something is well-known does not make it profitable or long lived, take for example RIM (BlackBerry), Nokia, Intel, etc. iPhone was a nobody in this space when it was introduce and now it’s has become a symbol of excellence, is it perfect no. In technology things are always improving and if iPhone does not stay relevant another player will push it just like RIM and Nokia. Many companies/governments that I am familiar with have been migrating to or have been using Microsoft for sometime as it has the capacity and capability to tackle these large corporation needs unlike Dropbox who could simply be purchase or fall into irrelevance. Just looks at the competition like Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc and you will see how gold standards means nothing in a constant tech space.

Maybe Apple knows that if it upgraded its free iCloud storage plan to 15-25GB their will be unable to collect on that $0.99 cents that I am sure their can afford as that 5GB is coming out from somewhere (price of device). Cost have mass storage has come down significantly over the years and we have a company here who is unwilling to provide its loyal users some goodwill, why not increase the $0.99/50GB plan to 100GB instead and align with storage pricing.

As an Apple investor I would support this move and FYI I don’t use iCloud and do pay for my cloud storage with another company.
Dropbox is the gold standard because it is technologically better than the rest. It also offers the richest APIs that I know of that allows 3rd parties to connect to the service. There’s a reason enterprises use Dropbox, and there’s a reason they can charge what they are charging.

If you don’t use iCloud, then I fail to see why you care whatever Apple offers. You are already paying for cloud storage anyway. Maybe you should demand whoever provider you use to offer more for the money you paid for instead. :D
 
Dropbox is the gold standard because it is technologically better than the rest. It also offers the richest APIs that I know of that allows 3rd parties to connect to the service. There’s a reason enterprises use Dropbox, and there’s a reason they can charge what they are charging.

If you don’t use iCloud, then I fail to see why you care whatever Apple offers. You are already paying for cloud storage anyway. Maybe you should demand whoever provider you use to offer more for the money you paid for instead. :D
The provider I chose already provides better value for my money compared to your gold standard Dropbox and others like Apple, Amazon, Google and Microsoft.

Dropbox will cease to exist and will either be bought out or similar features/functions will be added by the competition. Nothing special what Dropbox is doing.
 
The provider I chose already provides better value for my money compared to your gold standard Dropbox and others like Apple, Amazon, Google and Microsoft.

Dropbox will cease to exist and will either be bought out or similar features/functions will be added by the competition. Nothing special what Dropbox is doing.
Good to know. Care to share what provider you’re using?

Note that a gold standard != the better deal. It just sets what the “standard expected rate” on the market. And right now, for free cloud storage, the “expected” storage hovers around 5GB. That’s all what I’m trying to say. So expecting Apple to match the outlier (eg. google, who has an entirely different business model to boot), is somewhat irrelevant imo. Apple is a for profit company, not a charity.

I myself don’t pay for iCloud either. I use OneDrive since I already subscribe to Office 365. :)
 
Good to know. Care to share what provider you’re using?

Note that a gold standard != the better deal. It just sets what the “standard expected rate” on the market. And right now, for free cloud storage, the “expected” storage hovers around 5GB. That’s all what I’m trying to say. So expecting Apple to match the outlier (eg. google, who has an entirely different business model to boot), is somewhat irrelevant imo. Apple is a for profit company, not a charity.

I myself don’t pay for iCloud either. I use OneDrive since I already subscribe to Office 365. :)
You have the worldwide web at your fingertips you are able to conduct an internet search for a provider that best suits your needs and preferences.

When Apple initially offered its 5GB base iCloud storage your statement may have held water THEN, this is 2021 and not increasing the base storage for a company who’s primary revenue is hardware and services such as AppleMusic, AppStore, etc it’s iCloud storage service is negligible in revenue in comparison. Many companies offer the ability to increase storage for free as I mention going all the way from 5GB to 20GB, Apple does not offer this ability unless one pays for 50GB which to me seems cheap coming from a trillion dollar valued company. Remember that not all Apple customers use iCloud or even pay for it so the option to offer some goodwill to raise the base storage would be welcome by those who do. Plus Apple is seen as a market leader relating to hardware and software, why not be the example and raise the standard for cloud storage too. Why follow what others are doing as it seems very Un-Apple.

As mentioned I get that Apple is not a charity, with that mindset it should lower its base iCloud storage to 2GB and profit more. Apple pays millions for start-ups and incorporates some of its functionality into its standard apps, are you telling me that $0.99 will collapse this company.

OneDrive is better than iCloud and getting it included with your office subscription is bonus, nice job.
 
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