Apple Shares Hit New High for 2016 as Samsung Considers Scrapping Note 7 [Update: Note 7 Officially Discontinued]

[bingeciren]

Total disaster in every aspect for Samsung. Perfect timing for iPhone 7 sales when there was so much doubt about the sales not being strong since it offered no significant improvement over the 6 series (so they said) and took the 3.5mm phone jack away on top of it.

Apple could't have been this lucky even if they wanted.

 

[chr1s60]

If Timmy doesn't release some good Macs in the next week or so I have a feeling he won't be smiling & laughing for long.

Since when is Apple in the computer business?

 

[kissmo]

Samsung phones.
Unobxing:

I am soo excited!
Beautiful design....

Aa.... nice phone....

And let's see what's in the Box:
A power brick
Headsets
and of course the Fire extinguisher.

Well here you have it folks! Click to subscribe and don't forget you can find the fire station's phone number in the description below.


Either way - bad thing for someone to own a killing device... I am not glad this happened to Samsung. This is never good news.

 

[Dowjohnny]

Production has just been officially stopped

 

[5105973]

May as well update the news. Wall Street Journal has just announced that Samsung is permanently scrapping the Note 7.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/samsung-to-permanently-discontinue-galaxy-note-7-smartphone-1476177331

 

[soroyv]

I think this will hurt the brand more than people realise. Normal people/consumers only sees the name Samsung when reading or hearing about burning phones, product names like Note 7 may not mean much to them. So when times comes to purchase a phone they will most likely choose something that is not an Samsung phone, for historic reasons.

The most important lesson to take away from this is to never rush things, or you may get burned

 

[admob71]

Everyone is saying how this could happen to Apple, they share the same suppliers , etc but at the end of the day, Apple didn't need Samsung to fall over in order to move units. Both could coexist in the market (and they have, although Apple takes most of the profit).

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Samsung did this to themselves, rushing to market, pissing off it's own fans.

How are they rushing to market, they release a note version every year at a similar time...

 

[tentales]

1) these are not haters: these are people who were subjects of constant hate and mockery from Samsung itself (ads on Apple lines, bending phones, etc) and their fans.

Gloaters, gleeful, vengeful, hate on haters...
juvenile behaviour mate. No wonder with the kind of behaviour our supposed "leaders" role-model to us on TV these days, eg. that debate last Sunday.
2 wrongs done make a right.

2) batteries were not the problem here. Samsung hoped they were, but they where not.

Huh? How not so ?
Li-Ion is a highly flammable material and it has already led to a plane crash.
Whether it's Samsung design of the case by squeezing it too much or charging it too fast or whatever the reason, the flammable component *is* the Li-Ion battery and it's in everybody's smartphone & Laptop.

Won't be long before all such batteries be banned from airplanes.
The underwear bomber was so last decade.

 

[cdmoore74]

If this happened to an iPhone launch Apple would be screwed. Maybe they should stagger the release cycle for unforeseen screw ups like this.
Samsung can make a big come back because they don't launch their flagship phones together. Could you imagine the fallout if both a Galaxy and Note released at the same time had the same problem? As it stands they can scrap the Note 7 while they redesign the S8. I'm expecting a completely different design that departures from the current look.
I really hope Samsung does not try a third time with the Note 7. The damage is irreversible and no one would recommend it.

 

[alleggerita]

How are they rushing to market, they release a note version every year at a similar time...

First up. They didn't release a Note every year. Note 6 was non-existent.

Secondly, there are TONS of reports saying how Samsung rushed and pressured their suppliers to push forward the launch of the Note 7 because they heard iPhone 7 would not have anything revolutionary and they want the upper hand.

So you're wrong on both accounts.

 

[VulchR]

There might be a limit to how save Li-ion batteries can be made, so as the number of batteries made is increased the likelihood of seeing problems will increase, which is a little unsettling. Does anybody know enough about battery technology to know whether there is a safer, better alternative?

I would have thought that rather than buying a company that makes head phones, Apple would be in a war with Samsung to acquire companies with better battery technology...

 

[tentales]

I don't think it's batteries' problem but their placement and connections in phone's body, i.e. failed design

sure... makes me feel so much safer.

EDIT:
https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/tdg/lithium-batteries-are-dangerous-goods-1162.html

EDIT2:
https://longtailpipe.com/ebooks/gre...n-gasoline-cars/lithium-battery-flammability/

 

[nikon1]

I'm old enough to remember the Ford Pinto and the exploding gas tank, when the Pinto was struck from behind.

Maybe Samsung took a page from that book of disasters. IIRC - When Ford realized they had a problem, rather than recall all those Ford Pintos sold to the public and undertake an expensive rework, the accountants did a ROI and figured that it would be cheaper to settle the wrongful death lawsuits that were expected rather than recall and correct the faulty gas tank design. That's a really poor decision based on $$$ and not lives needlessly lost.

I salute Samsung for their choice!

YMMV

 

[cdmoore74]

I can hardly see Samsung removing from this anytime soon. I work with phones and already have customers waiting for the S8 & S8 Edge. Some are even considering the Pixel phone now over the Note.

Apple really need to bulk up supply of the 7 Plus to capitalize on this.

Many Android people just don't like iPhones and would rather stay in camp. Plus the Note series was always for the power user, the Galaxy phones are the top sellers. The Pixel phone is the 1st choice. After that I have nothing else within the last few months. I don't trust LG and Motorola to recommend them.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

They have to try again.

 

[Mr Fusion]

The fact that Samsung's phone is being scrapped at a time when people were saying the latest Apple phone wouldn't sell is something to consider.

You sound like a certain presidential candidate I know...

What Apple news do you want to read? As you said the Mac line up has nothing to talk about lately.

As I said? Hmm... no. I said there should be plenty of Mac stuff to talk about since we're on the verge of a major release. If you're waiting until the product is released, it should be called "MacAfterTheFact" not "MacRumors." But all I've heard thus far are crickets...

 

[SMIDG3T]

And rumours suggest that Samsung won't be accelerating the production of the Note8! I wonder why that is!

Tim Cook's stomach probably hurts so much now from all the laughing.

 

[zombierunner]

 

[Kajje]

Their whole S7 - or even the whole Samsung Galaxy line up will take a hit. Many people don't understand the difference between a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or a Samsung Galaxy S7 Note.

 

[tentales]

There might be a limit to how save Li-ion batteries can be made, so as the number of batteries made is increased the likelihood of seeing problems will increase, which is a little unsettling. Does anybody know enough about battery technology to know whether there is a safer, better alternative?

I would have thought that rather than buying a company that makes head phones, Apple would be in a war with Samsung to acquire companies with better battery technology...

Indeed! There are definitely safer alternatives, some in late research stages, but as so often, inertia to change is prevalent in most industries until some kind of disasters occurs. Hey, we'd all be flying in airships if it wasn't for the Hindenburg mishap.

 

[Nozuka]

Their whole S7 - or even the whole Samsung Galaxy line up will take a hit. Many people don't understand the difference between a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or a Samsung Galaxy S7 Note.

That is sadly true. My Father asked me about my S7: "isn't this the one that is exploding?"

 

[Telos101]

Their whole S7 - or even the whole Samsung Galaxy line up will take a hit. Many people don't understand the difference between a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or a Samsung Galaxy S7 Note.

You're right. This is huge. They need to scrap the whole Galaxy brand. Mark my words: there will be no more Galaxy phones. Ever. Again.

 

[VulchR]

Indeed! There are definitely safer alternatives, some in late research stages, but as so often, inertia to change is prevalent in most industries until some kind of disasters occurs. Hey, we'd all be flying in airships if it wasn't for the Hindenburg mishap.

Let us hope that phones spontaneously bursting into flames fosters some innovation...

 

[djcerla]

Gloaters, gleeful, vengeful, hate on haters...
juvenile behaviour mate. No wonder with the kind of behaviour our supposed "leaders" role-model to us on TV these days, eg. that debate last Sunday.
2 wrongs done make a right.

Huh? How not so ?
Li-Ion is a highly flammable material and it has already led to a plane crash.
Whether it's Samsung design of the case by squeezing it too much or charging it too fast or whatever the reason, the flammable component *is* the Li-Ion battery and it's in everybody's smartphone & Laptop.

Won't be long before all such batteries be banned from airplanes.
The underwear bomber was so last decade.

Juvenile behavior: it may well be juvenile, yes, but there's no "hate" in it I believe, only a warm feeling that the world may be just, some rare times.

Batteries: the proof that batteries were not the culprit was the first recall, when they changed battery supplier, to no success. It's not a battery defect, but a more difficult to track problem.

 

[nikon1]

The problem is, consumers never forget these things.

I have to disagree with your assertion.

About 30 years ago, Tylenol pain relievers had a problem with someone "tampering" with their product and people died. Tylenol's parent company immediately yanked the product; made huge public announcements and "owned" the problem (even though it was determined that the tampering took place after the product left the manufacturing plants).

Tylenol is still one of the biggest selling OTC pain relievers sold today - and that's because the company handled the problem quickly, with unbelievable transparency and created a new packaging system that prevents product tampering.

In this case - I think that IF Samsung handles this correctly - which I think they are doing - they may keep their brand recognition and trust safe. As to how they are handling the exploding washing machines - they are not doing such a good job.

I am normally NOT a fan of Samsung and I Shame them quite often for their outright theft of IP, but I think they are doing the right thing for once.

YMMV