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Apple Shares Hit New High for 2016 as Samsung Considers Scrapping Note 7 [Update: Note 7 Officially Discontinued]
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Just hand the remaining stock to the military. Will make for great hand grenades.
I hope all manufacturers learn a lesson. Try not to be first and rush.
I'd prefer a two yearly release.
I hope all manufacturers learn a lesson. Try not to be first and rush.
I'd prefer a two yearly release.
How do you know they are on the supplier list ?? Do you work in Apple or have access to their supply chain information ??
To think of all the flack Apple took for antenna-gate, scratch-gate and bend-gate.
Any company can have a product bomb, but they are not actually supposed to be a bomb or incendiary device.
Any company can have a product bomb, but they are not actually supposed to be a bomb or incendiary device.
Tim Cook and Co. right now
Nah, this is Apple's greatest fear of happening to them with every iPhone launch. Except it won't be $20 billion in lost sales, it will be $100 billion in lost sales. I bet we see more leaks next year of the iPhone as Apple increases its testing period with the new form factor. Samsung is a great manufacturer and for this to happen to them and for them not be able to figure out how to fix it after two months has got to be scaring Cook and the rest of Apple.
Really? I really have to google "Apple Suppliers List" for you? 1st hit.
Let this be a lesson to them next time to worry more about putting out an actual quality product rather than cutting corners in a rush to beat Apple to market.
It might, but I suspect that outside of Korea that market is smaller than people realize. Google Pixel won't have the same brand cache in Asia as Samsung. And it isn't as bleeding edge as the Note 7. I think Pixel doesn't sell much. This will help tremendously. Like this might double or triple Pixel sales in the U.S. But I suspect Pixel is basically a flop. Too many good Android phones cost $399 or less.
#1. Pinto was no less safe in a rear crash than other cars of the era. The whole thing was started by some nut job magazine and the nut job Ralph Nader. It was found to be as safe as other small cars of the time
Let us hope that phones spontaneously bursting into flames fosters some innovation...
Yes, built in fire extinguishers with automatic 911 calls to a fire department nearby.
Plan B for innovation, how about humans talk again to each other?
Difference between the two: Apple blamed the user and never fixed those *gate issues. Calling yourself courageous just shows how big of an ego you have.
Samsung is offering refunds. It takes courage to admit mistakes
Apple already did that with the Mac/PC ads
Were do you think Samsung copied the ads from? Yup apple.
Oh I'm sorry. Was there an official announcement of the Macs getting refreshed this month, or is this just because that's what they've done in the past?
But first they did a recall and then announced "fixed" Note 7s and sold them. That was a failure. Doing this a second time and then trying to revive the line is impossible from a marketing perspective. This is more of a technical issue but the engineers failed to address or identify the root cause of the fires. So in some ways you can't blame upper management as I'm sure the engineers didn't tell management, "Go out and sell these, we've reduced explosions from 1 out of 1,000 to 1 out of 20,000." The engineers must have given the replacements a clean bill of health.
Ahh, some adult thinking at last.
I'll take your thought and say that maybe Apple will even delay the next iPhone, like they did with the Macs, but not for the same reasons. Imagine the "can't innovate... my ass" line Phil or Tim could tout if they'd be the first with a longer life, safer battery in a curved glass iPhone 8. "Go ahead, bend it, blend it... it won't catch fire."
Offering refunds isn't courage, that is saving the company. The phones are dangerous. They are catching fire while people are asleep. They apparently can catch fire sitting in your pants pocket or your purse. They are either going to be or are banned from all travel on planes. Folks who buy $850 smartphones travel by plane. This can't be their phone.
And for all we know, this is an issue that gets worse for these phones over time. Like it might be a failure of some part that might wear out. So maybe the catching fire issue becomes more likely as the phone gets older! Samsung might really need to get all the phones off the market.
Nah, I dunno. Gotta defend my engineering brethren here and some personal experience with engineers & management.
It's typically the engineers that warn middle management, but that middle layer often misrepresents those warnings to upper management. The 1986 Challenger Shuttle disaster was an example of that.
Properly designed and tested Li-ion products are not a huge problem - yes, people need to be aware that they shouldn't continue to use a device if it overheats or the battery is damaged, and maybe not to charge their phone right next to the curtains - but with more smartphones than people on the planet it's self evident that the risk is small, or seeing someone's phone cooking off would be a daily experience.
The hoverboard situation was caused by irresponsible manufacturers churning out huge quantities of cheap knock-offs of an expensive product to make a quick buck out of a consumer craze. Again, there are many cordless products like vacuum cleaners, power tools, lawn mowers with similar high-power batteries that don't seem to cause a problem. Although Samsung are more reputable than the no-name hoverboard makers, it sounds as if the Note 7 may have suffered from being rushed out, too.
You also have to consider the distorting influence of the press: how many domestic fires and burns incidents are there around the world, every day, cause by chip pans, faulty mains plugs, sunlight shining through glassware, cigarettes (e and regular), gas fires, electric fires, kids playing with matches that you never hear about? Yet when a particular product catches the public interest, suddenly the media or twitteratti are scouring the world for stories of that product exploding, and when they find each one, its international headline news (...unlike Joe Sixpack's toaster choking on a bagel and singeing his favourite humorous tea-towel).
So while the failure rates of Note 7s and hoverboards may not be acceptable they represent a fairly small proportion of failures out of a huge number of products, amplified by the media.
In fact, if Samsung isn't sharing with Apple why these phones are catching fire, then Apple has already set up a team and is buying Note 7s to figure this out. This is the fear for almost all of Apple devices, smartphones and the laptops with much bigger batteries. Everyone in the industry must be wondering how this happened. And just saying "Samsung rushed, we won't rush." is not an answer.
Who gets the bill if that happens? Besides, this is so far from schadenfreude. It's karmatic retribution. Samsung deserve this. They ignored safety concerns and shipped anyway. Did you not see the leaked emails? They don't give two ***** about their customers. And they continually tried to brush it under the carpet once it happened. No leadership, no care, no responsibility. Certainly not schadenfreude.
LOL! They look just like all the other 2016 phones. (Not the ones actually on fire)
Maybe. But with the millions of Note 7s being sold and this issue getting major media attention, I can't believe that Samsung didn't have a complete bill of health report from engineering that (A) the issue is X and (B) X is not an issue on these phones. If they had anything less than that, they certainly took a risk. But maybe, as you say, by the time the report got through middle management, it looked like what I say above but it really was more of a "we think we know what happened" report at the lower levels.
And cancellation of their most innovative and unique line of phones is so drastic that I could see everyone in the company wanting somehow to come to a different conclusion. That is a lot of pressure to find an "easy" solution instead of just cancellation and full refund to all customers.
The constant need for news only leads to misinformation. You need news all the time no matter whether there is news or not. Apple could not update macs for another year and they wouldn't "die". Tying Samsung to an article that mentions them over and over is not click bait
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