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I saw the Apollo 11 special that was in 4K HDR, rented it. It was rather gorgeous. For anyone believing we never went there, you’re not worth any more of my ti—-......
 
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If there's one show that will get me to subscribe, this one is it. Aerospace and national pride? Check and check.

Ummm... maybe you didn't read it close enough. The show is alt-history that depicts the USSR beating us to the moon, so it's actually a national disgrace.

Seems kind of disrespectful to try and piggyback the marketing of a show whose premise is we failed to make it to the moon first on the anniversary of the successful moon landing.

Not saying the show couldn’t be interesting, just not digging the disrespect. I won’t be watching though, because I don’t need any more TV subscriptions.

Make that FIRST and ONLY manned missions to the moon, sunshine! Apple has succumb to the mind rot of tearing the USA down.

I'm sure the show will portray a utopian future (current present time) where the Soviet system brought us a perfect human existence. How stupid.

Apple has lost it's mind.

Michael Collins remarked that when the Apollo 11 crew went on the post mission world tour, they expected people in other countries would feel the USA was "gloating" over their accomplishment. To his pleasant surprise, the crew was met with an incredible amount of warmth because people everywhere celebrated the mission as a "humankind" accomplishment. Despite no direct involvement people around the world felt they were part of a single human achievement, just because they were fellow humans. Any country could put a man on the moon given enough diversion of resources, but NO country except the USA could have done it in such a way that made people around the world feel this way.

"For all Mankind" is the true non-fiction story of how man actually walked on the moon. Stealing the title of the real story makes this garbage nothing more than a crappy hack. I'm sure it will get the "I've seen better film on teeth" rating.
 
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The team is getting stories and scripts ready, but Apple hasn't yet officially picked it up for a second season.
I hope Apple will have enough brains to not cancel such series in favour of some better selling dumb celebrity shows.
 
I thought the original sci-fi show aired 50 years ago?
Don’t know if you’re sarcastic or not, but plenty of people believe conspiracy theories nowadays. Climate change, the Theory of evolution, round Earth, vaccinations, ... it’s all disbelieved because of politics, religion, or simply because it’s too complex. A very sad evolution. Why does everyone have to have an opinion on everything? Even the stuff they don’t understand.

But I came here to have an opinion on the name and logo of the Apple TV service. I haven’t been a fan of the iOS logos for a long time (I’m looking at you hideous camera app icon) and this newest one isn’t turning the tide.

Also, the plus monicker for paid services is getting old. I would expect something more original from Apple.
 
I'm sure the show will portray a utopian future (current present time) where the Soviet system brought us a perfect human existence. How stupid.
No worries, it's just a show. In the real world US system brought us a perfect human existence.
 
..but any way, how sustainable this ATV+ service is in long term? Like, 5 + year from now, will they still be making only their own shows? And how much of them there has to be to justify paying for it and at the same time having enough money to be able to keep making new ones? Netflix is clear- they make a few of their own shows + a lot of content from other sources? Disney also will have archive of video, that Disney gathered of 10s of years, but ATV+?
 
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Honestly, easier to just fly to the moon than fake flying to the moon. Yeah, it’s all fake and that satellite system that works our global GPS and mapping systems just magically happened. All smoke and mirrors, tin foil hat man.

I am with you on this one and I have no doubts they went to the moon back then.
What really fascinates me and I find it quite bizarre is after 50 years we never managed to go back! Especially with today's outstanding technology!
 
What really fascinates me and I find it quite bizarre is after 50 years we never managed to go back! Especially with today's outstanding technology!
It was never a matter of capability or technology (after we got there the first time), it's always been a matter of determination. The public lost interest after the first couple moon walks, and the push was to spend the money elsewhere (in part by continuing a disastrous and costly field trip to Vietnam). NASA had lots of plans, most of them were shut down when the funding got pulled. The last several Apollo missions got cancelled, and a couple of already-built real live Saturn V rockets went to museums. We could go back again, if we as a nation (or a planet) had the will to do so.
 
It was never a matter of capability or technology (after we got there the first time), it's always been a matter of determination. The public lost interest after the first couple moon walks, and the push was to spend the money elsewhere (in part by continuing a disastrous and costly field trip to Vietnam). NASA had lots of plans, most of them were shut down when the funding got pulled. The last several Apollo missions got cancelled, and a couple of already-built real live Saturn V rockets went to museums. We could go back again, if we as a nation (or a planet) had the will to do so.

Interesting! I didn't look at it that way, it actually makes sense.
Mars will be the next Frontier now and can't wait to see that happen.
 
Don’t know if you’re sarcastic or not, but plenty of people believe conspiracy theories nowadays. Climate change, the Theory of evolution, round Earth, vaccinations, ... it’s all disbelieved because of politics, religion, or simply because it’s too complex. A very sad evolution. Why does everyone have to have an opinion on everything? Even the stuff they don’t understand.

But I came here to have an opinion on the name and logo of the Apple TV service. I haven’t been a fan of the iOS logos for a long time (I’m looking at you hideous camera app icon) and this newest one isn’t turning the tide.

Also, the plus monicker for paid services is getting old. I would expect something more original from Apple.

"Here’s to the crazy ones.
The misfits.
The rebels.
The troublemakers.

The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently.
They’re not fond of rules.
And they have no respect for the status quo.
You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them.
But the only thing you can’t do is ignore them.
Because they change things.
They push the human race forward.
And while some may see them as the crazy ones,
We see genius.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think
they can change the world,
Are the ones who do."
source:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Different

.....you see, the fringe sure is not always right (looking at you, flat earth xD) but it serves a very important role. the more questions asked the better for humanity.
 
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Since there was such a big flop with Apple trying get rights to shows (..or lack of), while Netflix has "no problem" scoring those same rights, if that doesn't tell you what Apple is doing wrong, i don't wanna be right.

You'd think Apple would score better votes for rights, because its NOT a subscription model..It's a rental model, and although i like original series.. if that's all its gonna be, then don't expect it to be better in any way.

'For All Mankind" looks good though.
 
Never watch The man in the high castle then, let alone read the original novel by Philip K. Dick, in that one you lost WWII....

The message of the novel was even more cynical: In the novel, the Allies had technically won the war, but eventually had failed culturally and economically, so their military success hadn't made any difference at all.
 
this looks cool to me but seems to be the type of thing that only computer nerds will be interested in
 
Coincidental timing for this article - I'm heading to the Armstrong Air and Space Museum in Wapakoneta in a few minutes to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Launch Day of Apollo 11.

I enjoy alternate history fiction and would definitely watch this program.
 
Oh I get it haha because it was all fake right

Yep, cue the morons who say it was all faked, since that's what they heard from some hair-brained you-tuber. Meanwhile they ignore the reams of scientific documentation and legitimate sources that indicate it was legit.

Please use your brain for something useful rather than questioning real historic events.
 
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I still don’t know how to feel about apple doing tv shows. Sounds like they didn’t know what to do with the money. There was no real reason to step into a business full of other services.

The 40 years of explosive growth during which technology doubled in power every 18 months and a 2-year old computer was a relic is over. How many people here are still rocking their 5,7,8... year-old MacBook? Everybody who needs a personal computer now has one. The last 10 years have been about the mobile market, but that only took a few years to catch-up with the personal computer in terms of market saturation and rate of development. Those windfall profits that filled Apple's swimming pool with gold aren't going to be sustained by computers and phones.

That's why the industry is taking every opportunity to introduce subscription services that rake in lots of juicy monthly payments.

As for stepping into an industry filled with other services. Maybe Steve would never have done that - but its probably a safer bet that Apple will be able to claim x% of the existing pie than succeed in creating a whole new confectionary.

..but any way, how sustainable this ATV+ service is in long term? Like, 5 + year from now, will they still be making only their own shows?

...but (as you'll know from recent headlines) all the "old" media companies have now woken up to the streaming model and are clawing back their content from the likes of Netflix and Amazon - who are both investing a ton of money into their own shows.

My suspicion, though, is that the chance to watch Star Trek and Friends again isn't what will attract people to a service - its just a nice "free" bonus once you've paid up to get Stranger Things or suchlike. I wouldn't bet against Disney, because, sadly, they own half of popular culture and there's an endless supply of sprogs who haven't seen Frozen yet and will stamp and scream until their parents get Disney - but the other studios will probably have to up their game on new content to beat Netflix, Amazon and Apple to the new customers.

So, at least for the time being, making your own shows is the only game in town. If the Apple shows are any good, they will be an asset that can be licensed, for good money, to the House of Mouse, Netazonflix, Sony or whoever ends up on top of the streaming pile. 5-10 years down the line, its almost inevitable that we'll see some sort of mergers/consolidation (maybe there's room for a couple of mouse ears on that Apple logo...?)
 
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I am with you on this one and I have no doubts they went to the moon back then.
What really fascinates me and I find it quite bizarre is after 50 years we never managed to go back! Especially with today's outstanding technology!

It costs billions of dollars, and after about 6 trips to the moon they realized it's not all that interesting. Just a lot of the same moon rock they found the first 5 times.

You want to fund the incredible expense to see nothing more than you saw previously?
 
It costs billions of dollars, and after about 6 trips to the moon they realized it's not all that interesting. Just a lot of the same moon rock they found the first 5 times.

You want to fund the incredible expense to see nothing more than you saw previously?

Apollo wasn't really an "incredible expense" - it was actually comparatively low cost.
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(adjusted to 2008 dollars)


Source: https://christopherrcooper.com/blog/apollo-program-cost-return-investment/
 
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It costs billions of dollars, and after about 6 trips to the moon they realized it's not all that interesting. Just a lot of the same moon rock they found the first 5 times.

You want to fund the incredible expense to see nothing more than you saw previously?

You obviously don't know much about the Moon!
So yeah, we did some Moonwalk and we learned all that is to learn about it? No! There is plenty of mysteries surrounding Moon (which is in our doorstep)
Incredibly expensive? Yes
Not interesting? Those who are investing in Moon mining would disagree with you. And by the way, Moon may not be ideal for colonization but it has a lot of potentials for mining, raw materials and serve as a gateway if we want to move beyond our goldilocks zone. So yeah, is totally worth it.
 
With that logic there is nothing interesting in space.
You must be a Gemini


I didnt say ‘space’. Was just referring to the moon. Lame attempt at setting up a straw man.
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You obviously don't know much about the Moon!
So yeah, we did some Moonwalk and we learned all that is to learn about it? No! There is plenty of mysteries surrounding Moon (which is in our doorstep)
Incredibly expensive? Yes
Not interesting? Those who are investing in Moon mining would disagree with you. And by the way, Moon may not be ideal for colonization but it has a lot of potentials for mining, raw materials and serve as a gateway if we want to move beyond our goldilocks zone. So yeah, is totally worth it.

Bottom line, whatever value YOU see in exploring the moon is not shared by the people who hold the purse strings.
 
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