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Sorry but I don't believe in being indoctrinated by the "LGBT community" through "sensitivity training". You guys are welcome to express yourselves but please don't force it on others to support you.

As a Christian I believe the Bible to be the Word of God and it clearly states in places such as Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 that homosexuality is a sin just like any other. It's not THE sin or the "unpardonable" sin but it's included in the long list of sins against the Creator God. Now that does not mean I'm a so-called "homophobe". I work with numerous professing gays in my workplace and we seem to get along well. At least work wise. I have no hate for those who profess LGBT. But I can't deny the truth of the Bible and will present that truth lovingly to those willing to hear. No one is "born gay" and there's not such thing as a "gay gene" as noted here --> http://christiannews.net/2014/06/23...homosexuality-impossible-to-determine-by-dna/ God calls all of us whether straight or gay to repentance and saving faith in Jesus. Call me what you want but I'm no hater. I simply must present the truth in love and hope that even a handful will come to Christ.

Also for those Christians on here who are for LGBT consider these five questions.
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs...ions-for-christians-who-support-gay-marriage/

Also this does not mean I will boycott Apple. I love their products and have used Apple virtually all my life. They make the best out there. Sometimes a bit overpriced for my budget but I would gladly save up for a Mac then settle for a Windows PC. For those on here who are LGBT just know that it's not a hate issue for me. I don't hate you. Not at all. But as long as I'm able I will exercise my freedom OF speech, expression and religion I will proclaim the truth of the Gospel in love. Also I have much respect for Tim Cook. Taking the reigns of Apple after Steve Jobs is no small task. It's a huge responsibility and he seems to be doing very well. Hope Apple continues to succeed for a long time to come.

This kids, is why we don't like the fairytale called "religion"

Sorry if I offended you oh wait...
 
I'll never understand the hypocrisy of an American Christian who will out of one side of his mouth quote scripture to explain why homosexuality is a sin and then out of the other praise a company that openly supports what he considers to be a sin and support them with his hard-earned money.

If you really think that homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of your God then how can you possibly justify buying the products of a company that supports such abominations? Maybe it's easier to talk about what you believe than actually live it?

If I boycotted every company in today's age that supports LGBT then I would never buy anything. That likely includes cars and houses. I certainly need a place to live. Keep in mind that even if Apple (or MS, Google, etc.) supports LGBT there are those opposed to it (Christian or not) working in those companies. Everyone needs a job to pay the bills. An employee should be hired based on their skills for the job. Not their personal or religious convictions.

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This kids, is why we don't like the fairytale called "religion"

Sorry if I offended you oh wait...

Trust me I'm not offended. But please explain why Christianity is a "fairytale". BTW I'm not religious I'm Christian. There's an eternity of difference.
 
If I boycotted every company in today's age that supports LGBT then I would never buy anything. That likely includes cars and houses. I certainly need a place to live. Keep in mind that even if Apple (or MS, Google, etc.) supports LGBT there are those opposed to it (Christian or not) working in those companies. Everyone needs a job to pay the bills. An employee should be hired based on their skills for the job. Not their personal or religious convictions.

God provides for the faithful; are you saying that you wouldn't have faith in God to take care of you while you faithfully remained true to his word? There are Buddhist monks who live their entire lives never having purchased anything at all and living simple lives in donated monasteries; do they have more faith than you?
 
Ironically, to be a devil's advocate … I wonder if Apple would take part in a parade for Jesus. And not just about making money off of the "Christmas" season.

Different issues. The world is not divided into people who support equal rights for LGBT and those who believe Jesus is the son of God.

The company evidently wants to stand behind the former, but I've seen no evidence they'll want to stand up and say Christianity is the way to go.
 
Are groups actively seeking to oppress and discriminate against straight people?

You don't even know the legalities of discrimination. According to law, you can't NOT hire or fire someone based on their age, religious affiliation, or anything like that. Having a parade to celebrate someone's sexual preference is wasteful and under false pretense that gays are being denied things like the right to vote, and all the other rights that are protected under federal law.
 
If I boycotted every company in today's age that supports LGBT then I would never buy anything. That likely includes cars and houses. I certainly need a place to live. Keep in mind that even if Apple (or MS, Google, etc.) supports LGBT there are those opposed to it (Christian or not) working in those companies. Everyone needs a job to pay the bills. An employee should be hired based on their skills for the job. Not their personal or religious convictions.

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Trust me I'm not offended. But please explain why Christianity is a "fairytale". BTW I'm not religious I'm Christian. There's an eternity of difference.

For the scriptures you posted above. While you may not boycott these companies or show you dislike for the gay community(openly), as you can see from the disgusting comments made here, many people are just looking for a bloody excuse to start restricting rights of Humans that were born being gay.

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You don't even know the legalities of discrimination. According to law, you can't NOT hire or fire someone based on their age, religious affiliation, or anything like that. Having a parade to celebrate someone's sexual preference is wasteful and under false pretense that gays are being denied things like the right to vote, and all the other rights that are protected under federal law.

So gay people can go and get married whenever they want to? ********. Get off those drugs.
 
God provides for the faithful; are you saying that you wouldn't have faith in God to take care of you while you faithfully remained true to his word? There are Buddhist monks who live their entire lives never having purchased anything at all and living simple lives in donated monasteries; do they have more faith than you?

Yes God does provide for His faithful. But in this day in age in North America (I'm Canadian) it's pretty hard to get by without a phone or even to an extent a computer. Email is a great way to communicate plus many jobs now strictly require "online only" applications.

Also if I may say. Being a Christian if I was the CEO of a company I would have no issue hiring those who profess LGBT as long as they have the skills, dedication and enthusiasm for the job. They are no less of a person then I am. We're all sinners in need of the grace of Jesus. That's the beauty of true Christianity. Salvation is by grace not by works. You can't earn your place in Heaven. It's a free gift of God through Jesus (Ephesians 2:8-9)
 
You don't even know the legalities of discrimination. According to law, you can't NOT hire or fire someone based on their age, religious affiliation, or anything like that. Having a parade to celebrate someone's sexual preference is wasteful and under false pretense that gays are being denied things like the right to vote, and all the other rights that are protected under federal law.

It's not just about the legalities of discrimination, friend; there is social and cultural discrimination in this country that is pervasive and that homosexuals have every right to stand up against. However, legally there are issues worth looking at: inheritance rights for gay couples in states where their unions are not legally recognized, for example. There's a long way to go here.
 
For the scriptures you posted above. While you may not boycott these companies or show you dislike for the gay community(openly), as you can see from the disgusting comments made here, many people are just looking for a bloody excuse to start restricting rights of Humans that were born being gay.

As I made a link to in my initial post no one is "born gay". There is no gay gene. Being gay is a choice just like choosing to commit any other type of sin.
 
Feel free to call me homophobic (despite I fully support anti-discrimination laws as well as marriage and adoption rights for gay couples), but I don't think gay pride parades are really a solution to anything. Whenever I look at some of the more... Let's call them "daring"... floats go by I somehow get the feeling they're intentionally built to bring out anti gay-sentiment in people who have them, but are smart enough to keep them to themselves AND (more importantly) people who are still on the fence.

So to put it simply: I think gay pride parades are to the gay rights movement what PETA is to the animal rights movement.

Then don't go to the parade. Who the hell are you to tell people what to do with their own time and money?
 
They should have brought back the original Apple logo for the day.

Edit: And yes, I know there is one that was before the rainbow logo. :)
 
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Tell a man there's an invisible, magical, all powerful person in the sky and they'll take your word for it. Tell a man the paint is wet and they'll have to touch it just to be sure.
 
It's a shame that on a new article about Apple people have broken into debate as to whether Jesus was the son of God or not.

As if you'd believe one thing, but a patronizing comment on a forum would change your mind.
 
Wow, I have more than 100 points! Thanks MR :)
I think Apple should change their logo back to the rainbow colors at least for one day a year.
 
Yes God does provide for His faithful. But in this day in age in North America (I'm Canadian) it's pretty hard to get by without a phone or even to an extent a computer. Email is a great way to communicate plus many jobs now strictly require "online only" applications.

So he provides for his faithful...but not enough to get by in this day and age in North America, apparently.

We're all sinners in need of the grace of Jesus. That's the beauty of true Christianity. Salvation is by grace not by works. You can't earn your place in Heaven. It's a free gift of God through Jesus (Ephesians 2:8-9)

The beauty of Christianity is that we're all doomed to burn for all eternity for being as God made us, but there's a clause that gets us out of that damnation as long as we profess belief in a figure for whom there is little evidence for outside of writings collected decades after he supposedly existed while at the same time struggling against the very nature that God instilled in us. Beautiful stuff.
 
As I made a link to in my initial post no one is "born gay". There is no gay gene. Being gay is a choice just like choosing to commit any other type of sin.

If you talk to anyone who's gay, it doesn't seem to be that way. In the same manner you didn't ever choose to be straight. That's just how you are, how you thought everyone was, how you feel you're hard-wired to be.

Besides, you must be aware that charging into an internet forum claiming that being gay is a sin will not cause people to drop what they're doing and follow Jesus.
 
Wow, I have more than 100 points! Thanks MR :)
I think Apple should change their logo back to the rainbow colors at least for one day a year.

Well the new Yosemite seems pretty colourful. May not be a bad idea to bring it back more permanently to match.

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If you talk to anyone who's gay, it doesn't seem to be that way. In the same manner you didn't ever choose to be straight. That's just how you are, how you thought everyone was, how you feel you're hard-wired to be.

Besides, you must be aware that charging into an internet forum claiming that being gay is a sin will not cause people to drop what they're doing and follow Jesus.

I'm not here to "convert" people. I can't do that nor is that my job. Being a Christian I'm just the messenger. I can only present the Gospel and hope and pray that some will come to Jesus.

As for your first part. God "hard wired" everyone to be straight. It is through the sin of Adam and Eve that mankind has become crooked and sins in a myriad of ways not just homosexuality. But it's through the saving grace of Jesus that anyone can come to saving grace in Jesus. I on behalf of God can only extend the invitation. The rest is between you and Him.
 
If I boycotted every company in today's age that supports LGBT then I would never buy anything. That likely includes cars and houses. I certainly need a place to live. Keep in mind that even if Apple (or MS, Google, etc.) supports LGBT there are those opposed to it (Christian or not) working in those companies. Everyone needs a job to pay the bills. An employee should be hired based on their skills for the job. Not their personal or religious convictions.

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Trust me I'm not offended. But please explain why Christianity is a "fairytale". BTW I'm not religious I'm Christian. There's an eternity of difference.

I'm with you. Thanks for your post.
 
As for your first part. God "hard wired" everyone to be straight. It is through the sin of Adam and Eve that mankind has become crooked and sins in a myriad of ways not just homosexuality. But it's through the saving grace of Jesus that anyone can come to saving grace in Jesus. I on behalf of God can only extend the invitation. The rest is between you and Him.

Uh huh....I'd ask you to cite a source for this nonsense, but I have a feeling all I'd get are a bunch of bible verses.
 
I'm not gay myself, but whenever I see a gay couple holding hands in public it makes me feel good. Its like a reminder that prejudice can be overcome and reason and a fellowship of common humanity can prevail.
 
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