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Swiss Made Irony.

Forgive me for thinking it was a Tank from a WWII at the initial glimpse :)
 
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Apple turned watches in to a disposable product? You don’t think that’s was already the case?
Not really. I've still got all the watches I've bought (in the last 30/40 years) and they still work and they're all robust. I'm on my second Apple Watch after the first one smashed after barely touching a wall. Once broken you can see that the screen is eggshell thin and delicate.

Apple watches are extremely fragile compared to mechanical watches and probably have a life expectancy of between five and ten years before they're no longer supported or can connect to the latest iPhones.
 
No, I am only stating the facts! 'Looking at the time' versus 'arguably many useful functions'
I am not telling people to buy AW, instead of mechanical. People seem to reach that decision all by themselves. And another fact is that Mechanical belongs to a different era and times are changing. People seem to want on the wrist something that does more than just tell the time.
When you say the benefits of AW are limited, is that...according to who exactly? Oh, that's right! According to you. What a shocking surprise!!

You're telling facts - you're telling your personal opinion. "And another fact is that Mechanical belongs to a different era" - says who? Oh, that's right! According to you. Don't mistake your personal opinion for "facts" - there's already someone in the White House who seems to have issues with that.
 
Great news! As much as I like mechanical watches, I couldn't wear one anymore. It shows the date and time. That's it. I am used to all the other features that Apple Watch brings. Apart from battery life, everything else is better.

Hopefully, Swiss watches are shown to be expensive, overprices pieces of metal. Sure, they keep their value (sometimes), but will this change, now the Apple Watch is impacting them?

Smart Watches are the future. I knew this in the 80s but no one believed me (Seiko data watch). I was only 9 though. haha
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90% of the time I see someone wearing an Apple Watch, I wonder, sometimes aloud, WTF do they need notifications on their wrist for.

They look ridiculous - they're the Pager of the current generation. Most people who had a pager them kept them as a fashion accessory.

Conspicuous consumption of a device that depreciates to $0 in 5 years. TOTAL waste of money.
haha.

Mobile phones? they will never take off, stick to a corded phone
Flat TVs? pointless! Just go to the Cinema!

I was reading a book about the 80s and nearly everything in the book was now on the phone. Radio, TV, computer, camcorder, camera, etc. The watch is the new mobile phone. Mobiles have plateaued.
 
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Does that matter? Where are all the iPhone 3Gs?
It matters in comparison to a similarly priced mechanical watch.
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So many “old men yelling at the cloud” here. It’s funny just to read through the thread. Believe it or not, Apple Watch has changed the watch industry.
It hasn't really. It may have created a new industry, but the mechanical watch still has a clear place in society.
 
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Not having to run with my iPhone strapped to my waist has been AMAZING. I too run with AirPods and my watch. Absolutely amazing.

I have used an AW 3 for a few years, sold mine to family (in use today) (wife/relatives all share activity stats), and now use an AW5. Can't imagine life without it. Besides the exercise benefits, activity information throughout my day, ECG reading, noise reading, sleep analysis, and pages of benefits ... I like it because I don't have to always check my phone and when my boss calls me, I don't miss it. My phone is 100% on silent with no vibrate.

Carrot weather on my watch is a must. Love being able to see the forecast for the next 5 days that changes where I go.

Traveling the world over the last few years (for work) - the watch updates itself wherever I go. Being able to see what my wife texts me without grabbing my phone, my reminders (to do list), a quick timer, automatically logging into my Mac when it has been sleeping, American Airlines boarding ticket for when I board a plane... Microsoft Authenticator approver when I log into my windows PC...

Heartwatch app is amazing.

The watch is indispensable imo. .... I had fully intended on only writing a few sentences - told ya I could write pages on this. :p

You're making me love my watch even more!

When asked I struggle to answer the benefits, but I just take it all for granted how useful it is to have, especially with a pair of airpods too!
 
Mobile phones? they will never take off, stick to a corded phone
Flat TVs? pointless! Just go to the Cinema!

I was reading a book about the 80s and nearly everything in the book was now on the phone. Radio, TV, computer, camcorder, camera, etc. The watch is the new mobile phone. Mobiles have plateaued.
This is an easy trope to use, but the fact is watches are stylish and say a lot about you when you wear them.

Apple Watch does nothing to improve the reason you wear a luxury watch.
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I wonder the same for the ones that wear the bulky mechanical watches which they love to call "timeless" and then I realize that these are the "old/gone" generation whos brain and thinking are fixated to a different time. They do struggle to understand that time does change and things do evolve. The funny thing is that some of the "mechanical" bandwagons people do admit that they never look at the time on it. Oh, wait.... but it is TIMELESS! Like I give a ****! There is a reason why people do not wear Roman Empire clothes or use their tools nowadays. On the other hand, Apple Watch does have so many functionalities attached to it and yes, it looks cool and elegant, though I don't expect you to appreciate or understand it and I am not gonna even bother to mention the benefits of AW versus Mechanical since you seem to be so narrowminded about it. But yeah, keep calling it fashion accessory (oh... the irony here, because mechanical watches aren't) and let us enjoy the benefits of AW.
There are just so many "shopping gurus" around here, telling people what they should and shouldn't buy, and analyzing what would be a waste of money for people. You got to love the MacRumors forum board "analysts"
I'm not saying you shouldn't buy an Apple Watch, but I strongly recommend investing in a nice looking mechanical watch for weddings, dates, dinners, business meetings, etc. I don't think there is a right or wrong here but man, a Seiko SKX007 is such a classy and reputable timepiece for an amazing price.
 
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Not sure about that. I have few Tag Heuer watches but I haven't worn them since I got my Apple Watch Series 3 years ago. I have since upgraded to Apple Watch Series 5 and I really loving this.
I think they are different products. Whether people no longer want the traditional watch or not is another matter.
My personal view that a Tag or similar as a fashion accessory or dress watch. If I had a function to go to, ( funeral or ball perhaps), I'd never wear my Apple watch. as those functions are more traditional affairs and well you need to 'dress' accordingly.
 
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Upon a recent birthday and milestone in my life, I rewarded myself with the only piece of jewelry I wear, a DeepSea Blue 12660. I could care less what time it is, just looking at it brings a smile to my face. This will be passed down for generations beginning with my son after I am long gone. It will retain every bit of it's value, both sedimental and monetary. It took me a long time to justify the price (and to actually source one from an AD), but I looked at how much I give  every 5 years and reevaluated my thinking. I know many on this forum that have nice watches, and know how to appreciate a nice timepiece. Apple makes a great watch, I own a gen0 and a gen4; however- those will be useless someday soon, tossed in a drawer with a dead battery or outdated OS and forgotten. As for my Rolex, that will live on for years and years to come. In my eyes, comparing an Apple Watch to Swiss watch makers is simply a non-starter; they do not belong in the same category. My Gen4 SSB now has a monetary value of 100$ from apple, I paid 749 less than 2 years ago.
 
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Yeah, this isn't a good comparison.

Traditional watches are classy and automatic watches will work for years. Apple Watch is more useful in the near term but it ultimately destined for a landfill.
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I'm not a Rolex guy, but an automatic Rolex will last a lifetime and can be handed down.

A $2400 TAG Heuer Aquaracer will outlast any computer you own. A $500 Seiko SKX007 will as well. Rolex isn't a good example because it is the high-high end, but its little brother Tudor or biggest competitor, Omega make watches which will last a long time and they stand behind their product.
But this is all such a silly comparison and it's Apple's fault for pushing it.

An Apple Watch is a wrist COMPUTER. I use mine mainly for fitness things. I cannot do that with my Rolex.

My Rolex is a gorgeous piece of JEWELRY. It will last many lifetimes.

Precious metals and jewelry will ALWAYS outlast computers.
 
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5 years ago I would have bought one. But the older I get the less I want to be bothered by notifications and tech itself. When I get home from a long day of work, the phone goes on the counter and I’m gadget free with the exception of an iPad from time to time

Understandable, but I would add that you can filter notifications to the watch. It’s customisable so that only what you consider to be worthy of your attention pings you. If you wanted, you could have no notifications at all, and use it simply for telling the time. It goes without saying that if you don’t want one then you won’t get one, but you’d be surprised how well the watch can integrate with your life.

I find mine is actually great for avoiding being constantly connected with everything. Once you find the sweet spot there’s no need to ever check the watch, or the phone. I just customise my configuration so that the watch tells me what I have decided I want to know, without ever checking it. Additionally, both my phone and watch are permanently in silent mode, with the watch merely tapping me on the wrist when something arises that I have chosen to be alerted to. Far more discrete and polite in social circles.

It’s a very different experience than most expect it to be. Deeply personal. No one can really be told, though. It’s just something you have to experience. I only bought an Apple Watch out of idle curiosity, and shared the most common concerns, but now I wouldn’t be without it. I also now find myself in a minority of people who aren’t perpetually harassing their phone and checking for likes, or whatever it is that turns them on.

in summary, the Apple Watch day-to-day experience turned out to be the total opposite of what I thought it would be. It’s liberating, and yet reassuring knowing I will get a haptic ping on the wrist if something important to me occurs.
 
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I have a Totoro watch.

Please don’t report me for an irrelevant comment again. I might get kicked off site. Guess I’ll have to ‘watch‘ myself.

Time flies!
 
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I owned the original Apple Watch and I really liked it, but finally decided to pass it down to my mother because it went really slow. I think Apple Watch is a great product if you exercise. If you don't, is just a gimmick. Now I own a TAG watch that I inherited from my father after he used it for more than 20 years. Maybe comparing Swiss watches to Apple Watch is not fair, they're completely different products with radically different lifespans.
 
ah - now this news is interesting
knew aapl watch is gaining traction
but to surpass all swiss watches is interesting data point
 
It's interesting reading the arguments against the Apple Watch here. That it's pointless and this and that.

Honestly, I've always thought that of the iPad. If I have an iPhone I've never seen the point of an iPad. And I've legitimately tried multiple times(our old iPads are now relegated to videos for the kids).
The reality is that none of the devices we have today, and that includes the iPhone, are really necessities. We simply will them to be and can't imagine life without, and so we call them necessities. Fact is, there are more people on this planet getting by just fine without a smartphone than those that are.

so then there's this philosophical "Apple Watch is pointless. Nobody needs notifications on their wrist" argument that I just don't understand. I don't think anyone needs a fancy expensive watch to tell time either. Any random $25 watch from Walmart does just as well. And yet we aren't sitting here asking why the Swiss watch market exists, are we?

These things are all wants. For Many, it's a factor of convenience. Pointing out the Apple Watch depreciation is completely missing the point that people aren't buying these things as investments. They're buying them as a means to make a few small things more convenient. Linking these folks in to saying "they need notifications at all times" is really missing the greater point.

Pretty much any vehicle you buy is going to depreciate,the most rapidly, in its first five years. In many cases these watches cost around 1-2 car payments. It's a pittance compared to what you lose driving that shiny new car off the lot . And yet people are spending time denigrating those that choose to spend a bit of coin on a watch. It all just seems silly to me. And it makes me feel like you all don't really know the definition of "investment". Note: spending money on something doesn't make it an investment.

But since some folks have a hard time comprehending why someone might WANT a device like this, here you go... I've had my series 3 since launch. I've worn it every day. And I honestly find myself sometimes going half a day or longer without even picking up my phone. My vehicles are reliable, but older, and so phone calls, if they need to be answered, are done through the watch while driving; it also makes for a fantastically convenient means of skipping or repeating music tracks if you don't have steering wheel controls. It's very easy to discreetly dismiss a call or notification during a meeting or in any other situation where I'm not available; no more buzzing phones that we pretend aren't about as disruptive as a ringtone. I'm able to take it on a run with me without having to bring a phone, without losing the capability of making an emergency call. Beyond that, it also streams my music. This is also handy when mowing the lawn or just in general doing yard work as I can leave my phone inside. Lastly, I know that I won't miss a notification (yep, I guess I fell victim of your claims lol) from my son's school; he was recently diagnosed with a severe peanut and treenut allergy.

Bone of these things are truly needs. They all serve to either make something about life simpler or more comfortable. And, imo, that's the very point of technology. I never wore watches before this. I'm not the guy that puts jewelry on for the sake of fashion. And I'm honestly not often checking the time. If that Apple Watch was just a timepiece, it wouldn't interest me in the slightest.
 
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A high quality watch that'll probably work for decades vs. a (also high quality usually) smart watch that is obsolete after a few years.

Yup. I bought a Rolex from the 90's last year. Working just as good as one made today. As long as I take continue to take care of it, I'm sure I could sell it another 20 years from now without taking a huge loss. Or pass it down to one of my kids and it'll be just as fashionable
 
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But this is all such a silly comparison and it's Apple's fault for pushing it.

An Apple Watch is a wrist COMPUTER. I use mine mainly for fitness things. I cannot do that with my Rolex.

My Rolex is a gorgeous piece of JEWELRY. It will last many lifetimes.

Precious metals and jewelry will ALWAYS outlast computers.
Agreed. They're two separate things.

There are three types of "Watches", IMHO
  • Fashion Watches (usually cheaper movements with fashion labels)
  • Traditional Watches (Timepieces from traditional manufactures like Seiko, Timex, Omega, Rolex)
  • Arm computers (Apple Watch, Tag Heuer Connected, etc)
Apple has basically admitted this with their development. They used to sell a ridiculously expensive Apple Watch in the $10,000+ but it flopped because they're not a traditional watchmaker.
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Yup. I bought a Rolex from the 90's last year. Working just as good as one made today. As long as I take continue to take care of it, I'm sure I could sell it another 20 years from now without taking a huge loss. Or pass it down to one of my kids and it'll be just as fashionable
One thing is for sure: this guy wouldn't have made any money with an Apple Watch.

 
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Now that always on has been worked out I am waiting for a round watch.

Anything square is just too weird for me.
 
Agreed. They're two separate things.

There are three types of "Watches", IMHO
  • Fashion Watches (usually cheaper movements with fashion labels)
  • Traditional Watches (Timepieces from traditional manufactures like Seiko, Timex, Omega, Rolex)
  • Arm computers (Apple Watch, Tag Heuer Connected, etc)
Apple has basically admitted this with their development. They used to sell a ridiculously expensive Apple Watch in the $10,000+ but it flopped because they're not a traditional watchmaker.
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One thing is for sure: this guy wouldn't have made any money with an Apple Watch.


Can't get the video to load. Is that the guy who has an unworn Paul Newman? Saw an article about that like a week or two ago. I'd send that straight to an auction house, sit back and relax while the bids just come in
 
One thing is for sure: this guy wouldn't have made any money with an Apple Watch.

That is a one in a billion combination of factors that made that particular watch so valuable.

A more reasonable comparison would be an unopened Apple 1 computer kit signed by the two Steves.
 
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