Is it just me or the numbers for Single and Multi-core performance are missing for M2 Ultra in the article?
The definition of "maximum" is "as great, high, or intense as possible or permitted" and yet Apple went and added one designation above that. They're so good at so many things but their branding can be absolutely boneheaded sometimes.
Why, oh WHY do computing companies & journalist sites only ever seem to offer specifics related to video production performance? I do music production, so VSTs & plugins & low-latency monitoring & the ability to handle lots & lots of tracks... that's the kind of info that always seems to be missing. I understand that video & image design workflows are super intensive workflows, but audio workflows are also intensive. Just because a machine will do great with video doesn't guarantee it's going to provide the proper performance specs for audio because I've been going down that rabbit hole for years. It would be refreshing to see performance specs include audio production platform performance for once.
- Buy M1 or M2 if... you need a good balance of price, performance, and battery life and have normal day-to-day computing requirements.
- Buy M1 Pro or M2 Pro if... you need a performance-focused chip for slightly more intense workflows.
- Buy M1 Max or M2 Max if... you need additional graphics performance for working with images, videos, graphic design, or games.
- Buy M1 Ultra or M2 Ultra if... you need the best possible overall performance for extremely intense professional workflows.
Thanks for the helpful article! Appreciate the use of tables here; would love to see this more when comparing chips and iPhone/iPad/Mac models.
Crazy how fast we've switched to Apple Silicon as opposed to the switch from PowerPC to Intel. The resale value of Intel Macs are in free fall. Saw a 16-inch MacBook Pro for $900 the other day on eBay. I'm pretty sure it was one of the $3500+ configurations just three years ago ☠️.
Like to concur with you regarding your comments on the article. It is a solid guide for people in the market about to purchase Apple products.This is a solid guide. Well done, Hartley!
I will say that there are several folks buying the Mx Pro Macs thinking that they need that level of performance when it's overkil and where the standard Mx is more than plenty. Similarly, it's helpful to remember that unless you need better graphics (or "High Performance Mode" on 16-inch MacBook Pros), you do not need an Mx Max. Also, unless your applications are specifically optimized for them, you're not going to get twice the performance of an Mx Max in an Mx Ultra.
See here: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ks-with-these-pci-cards.2392894/post-32251532I would have liked to also see a comparison on external monitor support between standard/pro/max/ultra chips.
I was just going to say the same thing. People typically haven't had to think about this until Apple Silicon came along. I know some have found out the hard way that their M1/M2 Mac only supported one external display (or two displays for the Mac mini).I would have liked to also see a comparison on external monitor support between standard/pro/max/ultra chips.
I was just going to say the same thing. I know some people have found out the hard way that their M1/M2 Mac only supported one external display (or two displays for the Mac mini).
I don't need a super powerful Mac as most of my work is done through a VDI. I want a MacBook with a large screen, so the 15" MBA seems perfect for me in terms of power...but it's not. I need to run at least two external displays in addition to the built-in one, which the MBA (M2) isn't capable of. The 13" MacBook Pro (M1/M2) isn't capable either. Weird they call that one a "Pro".
At least for me, luckily I know I need a MacBook with at least a Pro chip; but other than that, I would not be able to tell you how many displays each of the chips support without doing more research.
Is this an actual hardware limitation, or an artificial limitation? I know there are "hacks" to get around it, so it seems artificial. I wonder if the same limitations will also apply to the upcoming M3, or if the standard M3 might be able to support more displays.
The M3 just address that next year. Otherwise, get a deal on a an Intel based Mac (last revision).I was just going to say the same thing. I know some people have found out the hard way that their M1/M2 Mac only supported one external display (or two displays for the Mac mini).
Your opinion is wrong. M2 is a derivative of A15 and uses the same cores. Same goes for the rest of the M2 family. All Avalanche and Blizzard.In my opinion, the M2 is “based” on the A16 instead of A15.
In other words, the A16 is the base chip of the M2 chip design.
Resale values of both Intel AND Apple Silicon Macs are falling. Butterfly keyboard Macs naturally start off with a hit to resale value. But it's only somewhat recently that the Intel 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro and other Apple Silicon Macs have also taken hits. Luke Miani posted an interesting video on this not too long ago.Crazy how fast we've switched to Apple Silicon as opposed to the switch from PowerPC to Intel. The resale value of Intel Macs are in free fall. Saw a 16-inch MacBook Pro for $900 the other day on eBay. I'm pretty sure it was one of the $3500+ configurations just three years ago ☠️.
Why not just make it go to 100% and make 100% faster?It is like when the space shuttles would increase thrust to 109%. (Yeah, I know why, but it always made me smile when they throttled up over 100%). 😂
Why not just make it go to 100% and make 100% faster?
I realize that, and that's exactly the point. Previously, we really didn't have to take multi-monitor support into consideration when choosing a Mac. Now we do with Apple Silicon, and this guide doesn't mention that.The MacBook Air runs an iPad chip, what do you expect?
In any case, you can also buy a super cheap Intel MacBook Pro if you don't need alot of power. They support multiple external monitors.
Your opinion is wrong. M2 is a derivative of A15 and uses the same cores. Same goes for the rest of the M2 family. All Avalanche and Blizzard.
Because Apple can clock the single core performance much higher due to the bigger battery/amperage in laptops.And yet the base single core performance of the M2 matches the A16 instead of the A15.
Because Apple can clock the single core performance much higher due to the bigger battery/amperage in laptops.
M2 is indeed based on the architecture of A15.
Definitely not there! 🙁Is it just me or the numbers for Single and Multi-core performance are missing for M2 Ultra in the article?
One other important reason folks might need a Max, even if they don't benefit from the additional GPU cores, is if they need more than the Pro's maximum 32 GB RAM.Similarly, it's helpful to remember that unless you need better graphics (or "High Performance Mode" on 16-inch MacBook Pros), you do not need an Mx Max.
Check out the tech experts at Max Tech as they have such audio comparisons.I love the breakdown. It's helpful to see how the technology's being used & leveraged.
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Why, oh WHY do computing companies & journalist sites only ever seem to offer specifics related to video production performance? I do music production, so VSTs & plugins & low-latency monitoring & the ability to handle lots & lots of tracks... that's the kind of info that always seems to be missing. I understand that video & image design workflows are super intensive workflows, but audio workflows are also intensive. Just because a machine will do great with video doesn't guarantee it's going to provide the proper performance specs for audio because I've been going down that rabbit hole for years. It would be refreshing to see performance specs include audio production platform performance for once.