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A16 wasn't a massive jump over A15. There's nothing to be curious about there. :p

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I find the whole mega super duper extreme naming bewildering tbh

Couldn’t they just go the old ways and say m1 plus ?

I suppose the problem then would be the top of the range would end up being called the m2 plus plus plus ?
 
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I am concerned about the heat. My MBP used to remain nice and cool and silent 100% of the time. Since 2021, certain activity that was easy for it and caused no heat before, will now cause it to spin up the fan to high as it gets to those super hot nuclear temps. Honestly I think the code in some software now intentionally directs the chips to throttle, heat up and slow down processes to convince people it’s time for a replacement. My MBP did not start using the fan at all until 2021. Truly, the 1st time the fan spun up, it shocked me because I forgot that my MBP actually had a fan - I had not ever heard it run before. I thought something was broken.

While some it might be due to SW getting "heavier", I doubt that is all.
Your fans were spinning before, just at a lower RPM you didn't notice. Every spinning fan will suck in dust, so after 8 years it is almost certain that there is some buildup.
 
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Here is an overview of the Apple Silicon chip. Indeed, we have come a very long way. 🥹

I want an M2 iMac tho. 🖥️

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For the sake of readability of this forum, I think we would all welcome that you stopped with this nonsensical, cyclical, never-ending "how about feature X in product Y?" topic (obsession?) in EVERY.SINGLE.MACRUMORS.ARTICLE.

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Thanks for that. I thought WiFi and Bluetooth were on-chip, but apparently they are not. I guess Apple builds WiFi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3 separately on to the newer boxes.
On Chip or not, it is still relevant to deciding what machine to get since the upgrades did come with the M2.
 
I'm missing the important info actually:
- Power consumption or performance per Watt, possibly broken down into CPU/GPU/ML
- Number and resolution of external displays
- WIFI/Bluetooth versions
 
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Aside from Max sounding like the plural of Mac, the naming actually makes sense.

At this point I'd say if you can get a still brand new M1 get it. What Apple has always needed, many think, is an affordable entry computer that is still powerful enough to justify the premium. They finally have that.

Until a big jump like external graphics support, unless you need more memory than the M1 can support it should be fine for anyone who doesn’t know they need more.
I do think the naming approaches the 'good, better, best' scheme most companies like to do quite well (which is good for consumers because it is simple).
The only thing I do not get is 'Max', it is confusing for its similarity to Mac but even more so because 'Max' in other products just means 'bigger'.
Personally I think a pretty sane naming scheme would be M<N>, Plus, Pro, Ultra.
However, that also doesn't work well anymore because of the iPhone Plus (which for some reason is then called Max when it is a Pro version?)

I am sure their marketing guys could think of a naming scheme that would just replace 'Max' with something more appropriate though.
 
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In my opinion, the M2 is “based” on the A16 instead of A15.
In other words, the A16 is the base chip of the M2 chip design.

M2 CPU cores are "Avalanche" and "Blizzard", same as the A15 and they are are both fab'ed on TSMC's N5P process.

The A16 CPU cores are "Everest" and "Sawtooth" and is produced on the N4P process.

Let's just hope M3 cores are based off A17, otherwise, we won't see a huge performance increase if it based off A16.
 
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Fantastic!! I need this article because I soon will replace my Intel Mac with M-series. I think this article is helping me decide to go with an M2 Pro mini or M2 Max studio. I will have to keep accessing my needs before deciding.

My Mac Studio with M1 Max (10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine, 64GB unified memory) is a beast. Abode Illustrator will load a file with easily 2000 vector lines in about 5 seconds... there's ZERO lag on Illustrator, regardless what I do. I have yet to install the newest version of AutoCAD made for Apple Silicon, but I'm assuming the performance is going to be on par with Illustrator, which will be fantastic, as AutoCAD is very graphics intensive (even when only doing 2D).
 
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My Mac Studio with M1 Max (10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine, 64GB unified memory) is a beast. Abode Illustrator will load a file with easily 2000 vector lines in about 5 seconds... there's ZERO lag on Illustrator, regardless what I do. I have yet to install the newest version of AutoCAD made for Apple Silicon, but I'm assuming the performance is going to be on par with Illustrator, which will be fantastic, as AutoCAD is very graphics intensive (even when only doing 2D).
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My Mac Studio with M1 Max (10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine, 64GB unified memory) is a beast. Abode Illustrator will load a file with easily 2000 vector lines in about 5 seconds... there's ZERO lag on Illustrator, regardless what I do. I have yet to install the newest version of AutoCAD made for Apple Silicon, but I'm assuming the performance is going to be on par with Illustrator, which will be fantastic, as AutoCAD is very graphics intensive (even when only doing 2D).
Right now I'm leaning toward the M2 Max. I've heard that the M1 Max is very capable and buying one would save me some money rather than buying M2 Max. Thanks for your review.
 
Looks like this was recently updated to include the M3 family. I'm spotting an error in the chart under

CPU and GPU Cores​


For the M3 Pro, it says:
"7 or 8 high-performance cores
4 energy-efficient cores"

But that should say:
"5 or 6 high-performance cores
6 energy-efficient cores"
 
I forgot there were so many Chip names/configurations... though makes sense with all the iPads and Pencils out there.
I guess I will stick with my Intel iMac for quite a while longer as I try and decipher all this...or at minimum Apple decides it has too much clutter in the lineups.
 
Nah, for images and graphic design M Pro is sufficient, just grab more RAM.

P.S. And don't think 16Gb is sufficient for Photoshop, get 32+ or don't whine you haven't been warned.
 
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Choosing a new Mac often involves consideration of the many Apple silicon chips now on offer, so our comprehensive guide covers their generations, variations, and performance benchmarks to help you decide which is best for you.

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After iterating for over a decade in the iPhone and iPad, Apple in 2020 brought its custom silicon chip technology to the Mac, enabling major performance and power efficiency improvements. Since then, Apple silicon has expanded to every Mac model, spurring new designs and capabilities that were previously impossible.

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Understanding the distinctions between Apple silicon chips will help you make an informed decision when selecting the right Mac for your needs. There have been three generations of Apple silicon for the Mac, each with up to four different chip variants. The main differences between the four different chip variants are as follows:

  • M1, M2, and M3: Standard Apple silicon chip with a balance of performance and power-efficiency.
  • M1 Pro, M2 Pro, and M3 Pro: Apple silicon chip with additional high-performance CPU cores. The M1 Pro and M2 Pro feature twice the memory bandwidth of the M2 and M3 chips (200GB/s), while the M3 Pro features 50% more memory bandwidth than the M2 and M3 chips (150GB/s).
  • M1 Max, M2 Max, and M3 Max: Doubles the GPU cores of the M1 Pro, M2 Pro, or M3 Pro and features up to twice the memory bandwidth (400GB/s) of the M1 Pro or M2 Pro chips for better graphics performance. M3 Max also adds extra CPU cores.
  • M1 Ultra and M2 Ultra: Encompasses two M1 Max or M2 Max chips for double overall CPU and GPU performance, as well as twice the memory bandwidth (800GB/s).

Apple Silicon Generations

With the introduction of the M2 series of chips in 2022 and M3 series of chips in 2023, Apple made some key improvements over the initial M1 series from 2020.

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The below table provides a comparison between the M1, M2, and M3 series, highlighting differences in the chips they are based on, node, CPU clock speed, Neural Engines, and more:

M1 SeriesM2 SeriesM3 Series
Based on A14 Bionic chip from iPhone 12 (2020)Based on A15 Bionic chip from iPhone 13 (2021)Based on A17 Pro chip from iPhone 15 Pro (2023)
5nm node (N5)Enhanced 5nm node (N5P)3nm node (N3B)
3.20 GHz CPU clock speed3.49 GHz CPU clock speed4.05 GHz CPU clock speed
Neural Engine40% faster Neural Engine15% faster Neural Engine
Video decode engineHigher-bandwidth video decode engine
Support for AV1 decode
New GPU architecture
Dynamic Caching
Hardware-accelerated ray tracing
Hardware-accelerated mesh shading
Image signal processor (ISP)New image signal processor (ISP)Same ISP as M2
Launched November 2020 to March 2022Launched June 2022 to early 2024Launched starting November 2023


The performance improvements seen with each iteration of Apple's Neural Engine is indicative of the generation-over-generation improvements that the company has been able to achieve with its custom silicon.

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The standard M2 chip also features several additional changes over the M1 chip, its direct predecessor, that are worth noting:

M1M2
68.25GB/s memory bandwidth100GB/s memory bandwidth
Media engine for hardware-accelerated H.264 and HEVCMedia engine for hardware-accelerated H.264, HEVC, ProRes, and ProRes RAW
ProRes encode and decode engine


All Apple silicon chips other than the M1 chip contain media engines for hardware-accelerated H.264, HEVC, ProRes, and ProRes RAW video. The M3 chip also adds support for AV1 decode.

Thanks to use of more advanced fabrication processes and larger surface areas, Apple has added more transistors to its M-series chips with each generation:

(Standard)ProMaxUltra
M116 billion33.7 billion57 billion114 billion
M220 billion40 billion67 billion134 billion
M325 billion37 billion92 billion


Devices

Each Apple silicon chip is only available in a select number of Apple devices. The standard M1 and M2 chips are present in a large number of laptop and desktop devices, several iPad models, and even the upcoming Vision Pro headset, owing to their requirement for a balance of performance and efficiency. On the other hand, the M2 Ultra, Apple's most powerful custom silicon chip to date, is only available in the high-end Mac Studio and Mac Pro... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: Apple Silicon Buyer's Guide: Which Chip Should You Choose?
Replacing my M1 MBP 13" It's not just that the M3 will be substantially snappier than the M1 on the web, but the hardware specs on the 14" are night and day compared to the 13" MBP & Air.
8gb of RAM would have been enough, but I wanted 16gb...still a good deal, when I compare what I get for $600 more 😊 Although would have been even better if it was $1600 for 16gb RAM 🤣
 
>= Max is likely also beneficial for machine learning / AI if you're working on models with a framework using GPU acceleration
 
I'm missing the important info actually:
- Power consumption or performance per Watt, possibly broken down into CPU/GPU/ML
- Number and resolution of external displays
- WIFI/Bluetooth versions
For the first and third points:

How is that important? Most people don't need to measure their energy consumption in that much detail, and I don't think there's any cutoffs for WiFi/ Bluetooth versions.

For the second point:

Isn't that based on the computer itself? Can't the Mac mini have more displays than an MacBook Air?
 
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