nope. A third party scam app can just bounce the backend link at review to another one to price bump, data trawl, all while looking like they within an Apple approved app. Perfectly reasonable to me, we've known for 10+ years that anything we did was within apple's ecosystem and had comeback to them... now that may not be the case.
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Apple Slaps Warnings on Apps Using External Purchases in the EU [Updated]
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nope. A third party scam app can just bounce the backend link at review to another one to price bump, data trawl, all while looking like they within an Apple approved app. Perfectly reasonable to me, we've known for 10+ years that anything we did was within apple's ecosystem and had comeback to them... now that may not be the case.
ACTUALLY 🤓, Granny Smiths are SOUR, not bitter, bahaha. But you’re right and I just tried thinking of an apple type on the top of my Willem Tell without Googling. It burns a little now 🖖
Sadly, marketplaces don't stay competetive without government intervention to stop monopoly situations arising.
Even the "Land Of The Free" has antitrust laws, and Apple is facing lawsuits in the USA for pretty much the same issues in the USA.
That's a large market share - and the other 70% may feature different manufacturers but the App side is dominated by Google's OS and App Store (and, don't worry, the EU is on Google's case too).
In other news, my house is only 30% on fire, so I don't need to do anything yet.
Inform them. Sure. As in "Note: You are being re-directed to a third party payment service".
Not try and scare them off with red triangles and disingenuously worded references to "security and privacy". Esp. when there have long been shopping Apps using third-party payment services which don't have any comparable warning.
Now, I don't know that I agree with forcing Apple to offer third-party payments on its store & think the EU should have stuck to just requiring Apple to allow third-party stores. However, the EU is a democratic body (as much so as any other "democratic" government) and is entitled to set and enforce laws governing trade. Apple is a company and gets to obey those laws - not engage in childish games like this to try and subvert them.
Apple has begun placing prominent warning labels on EU App Store listings that use alternative payment methods. The warning symbols appear as a red exclamation mark in a triangle, accompanied by text stating that the app "does not support the App Store's private and secure payment system" and "uses external purchases."
As noted by Michael Tsai, Apple is using its highest-level "critical" alert iconography – the same triangle symbol that macOS reserves for situations that might result in "unexpected loss of data."
Instacar, a popular Hungarian car valuation app with thousands of positive reviews, appears to be among the first to receive this treatment.
Apple's use of the warning labels comes just weeks after the European Commission fined Apple €500 million for violating the Digital Markets Act by restricting developers from informing users about alternative payment options. The Commission ordered Apple to "remove the technical and commercial restrictions on steering."
The warning labels also follow a contempt order issued by Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers on April 30, barring Apple from enforcing App Store rules that prevented developers from directing users to external payment methods.
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I'm waiting for the UE and other regulators to "slap" Apoolle with nice fine so that it stops this poo behaviour...
What I don't understand though is how people in the USA, afraid of state overreach in a duopoly-party system are more than happy for private centralised corporations to have it.
Monolithic companies unanswerable to the public are entirely antagonistic, not anyones's friend and out to extract as much money from their customers as possible. This is how capitalism works. With Apple this is via hardware sales, with Google it is via ad profiling. They are two sides of the same coin. Why would anyone defend any of them?
The courts, acting on behalf of the government and therefore the people are the way we keep them in check. Throughout history breaking up *any* monopoly has always lead to increased competition and better choice for consumers.
Duh, clearly you have to enter your CC info into any payment system once. It's not some magical transfer. The point is, you enter it once into a trusted system (Paypal) and not a 100 times into untrusted systems. When you pay with Paypal, the vendor does not get your CC info.
Not if it comes at the expense of another company wanting to set up their own app portal, even if it was on their own hardware. Just ask webOS and Windows Phone.
It should be listed in the “What’s New” section of the update so just turn off auto-updates.
that's the point. entering it again is infinitely less secure than just reusing what's already entered in the platform you're using.
you now have paypal and Apple to worry about. 2 attack points for hackers.
hope you understand.
And since the beginning they've been a waste of time because of the monpoly of the Play Store. Even Samsung couldn't make a 3rd party store work.
Then can't apps just use Apple Pay? Surely, y'all think that is secure, right?
Because a Taco Bell 🤢 is NOT a digital download within an app. Physical things are allowed. such as Amazonm clothes stores or whatever. it's digital services that apple take their 15/30% cut.
Taco Bell is a major company and accountable. Angry Castle Blocks damage 23 - could easily swap out the external landing/payment page for something nefarious, price bumping. Data trawling or whatever. Being warned is the right thing to do.
What’s wrong with telling customers that Apple will not be responsible for payment and refund issues? I guarantee you customer’s first reaction to such issues will be to contact Apple and demand a refund. Then they will be told they must deal with the developer. Of course their response will be “nobody told me this” and sill blame Apple.
So what is immature about this notice?
ok? whether or not they're a waste of time doesn't make a difference of whether or not they're an open/closed platform.
You worry too much. Use Apple Pay then. Case closed.
Do share with us, though, how you get through life buying everything you need only through Apple?
this app store warning makes it clear. cased closed. glad you agree.
That's the thing. Nothing is immature about it. Its just people liking to complain about it because they have nothing better to do.
assuming they support it. anyways you already mentioned cased closed. glad we agree. moving on.
TBH this is needed as other wise most user will just blame Apple for anything that goes wrong with in app purchasing that uses the developers payment processor!
Maybe the wording could be different but I think Apple should be able to say dont come crying to us if anything goes wrong with in app purchases in this app.
Maybe the wording could be different but I think Apple should be able to say dont come crying to us if anything goes wrong with in app purchases in this app.
Ignoring the styling or wording of the message, why would a in-app pop-up warning be less scary than text on the App download screen? Since the App details shows things like “In-App Purchases: Yes/No”, it should also show “External Payment System: Yes/No” instead of waiting until after the app has been downloaded and possibly after the user account is being created.
I’m glad Apple is doing this. I want to know if I have to give the app dev my credit card information or not. I may still download the app but at least I know before.
What mistake? Are you saying Apple isn’t within its purview?