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Apple Slashes iPhone 14 Plus Orders With Supply Chain Makers

Mrkevinfinnerty said:
They've made lots of money, also amazing how high you can go when you spend a lot of money buying your own stock.
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Haha! Wow, desperate aren’t we? Are you saying Apple have Inside Traded all the way to reach the 2 Trillion market share? Lolol.

Maybe (and this might come as a shock to you), Apple have reached their market share, not through inside trading, but because they actually know more about business than people every person here and they know what they are doing with goods and service pricing.
 
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steve09090 said:
Haha! Wow, desperate aren’t we? Are you saying Apple have Inside Traded all the way to reach the 2 Trillion market share? Lolol.

Maybe (and this might come as a shock to you), Apple have reached their market share, not through inside trading, but because they actually know more about business than people every person here and they know what they are doing with goods and service pricing.
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Nobody mentioned insider trading?!

They have spent an absolute fortune on stock buybacks nearly $500 billion in the last decade, if you think that isn't contributing to the mega market cap you are kidding yourself.

It's market manipulation basically, theres a reason it was illegal until the early eighties.
 
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Greenmeenie said:
Apple needs to combine the regular iPad & the iPad Air into ONE iPad. There are too many iPads, and the price diff btwn the Air & Regular iPad is already negligible. NO iPad should still be using the first gen Apple pencil.
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The price difference here is Oz is about $250. Rather than drop the choices altogether, I’d like to see them combine it, but have choices at checkout, like the Chip Type. M1 v A14. But I see what they are doing, by providing a cheaper alternative out of the box. I totally agree about the pencil. However, the difference in price for the iPad Air v iPad with pencil is $310 for the base model. I see where they are going and they know the market.

I suspect people want the choice between Low, Mid and High end and they can move between choices in those areas. Let’s face it, the iPad Air is a magnificent tablet. The iPad is for students.

They still need the iPad Pro, as it comes with LiDAR, more cameras etc.
 
webkit said:
That may be but these assessments presumably take all of that into account and are looking at where Plus sales were expected to be at this early stage i.e., they may have expected Pro/Pro Max sales to be higher early on and Plus sales to be lower (for reasons you mentioned) but Plus sales are even lower than they expected.

Even though Plus sales may have been forecast to get stronger in the coming months, this early weakness could be a sign that those stronger sales won't be as strong as expected. It's not that they won't go up, just maybe not as much as had been predicted. This is a reason why, assuming the report is true, Apple us cutting 14 Plus production.
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I agree with you.

I should have been more specific...my response was more for the naysayers in this thread who are calling the 14 Plus DOA. Apple rarely gets these types of things wrong but I predict it'll still be a strong seller for the "normies".
 
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Mrkevinfinnerty said:
Nobody mentioned insider trading?!

They have spent an absolute fortune on stock buybacks nearly $500 billion in the last decade, if you think that isn't contributing to the mega market cap you are kidding yourself.

It's market manipulation basically, theres a reason it was illegal until the early eighties.
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You did. Buying one’s own stocks is called legal inside trading.
 
1) Resume production of iPhone 4S back plates and sides.
2) Begin production of iPhone 4S-sized OLED panel.
3) Assemble.
4) Price with lower margins.
4) Profit from huge sales volume.
 
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allenvanhellen said:
1) Resume production of iPhone 4S back plates and sides.
2) Begin production of iPhone 4S-sized OLED panel.
3) Assemble.
4) Price with lower margins.
4) Profit from huge sales volume.
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So what would the display size be? 4S had a 3.5” but this wouldn’t have the home button. So what would we be looking at roughly here?
 
I don’t think the price of this year’s iPhones is a problem. In fact Apple is shifting more production to the 14 Pro & Pro Max (the most expensive/high margin iPhones they make). Apple hasn’t failed, they’re making more money than ever on their highest end iPhones. 😱
 
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I think the problem is everyone is waiting for the iPhone 15. Who already wanted an iPhone 14 probably has one.
 
ProfessionalFan said:
So what would the display size be? 4S had a 3.5” but this wouldn’t have the home button. So what would we be looking at roughly here?
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I calculate about 4.9”, which is a little larger than the current SE’s screen, but at the 19.5:9 ratio of the iPhone X, et al.
 
e.vnexpress.net

More and more Vietnamese opt for iPhone 13 over successor - VnExpress International

Though the iPhone 14 has been released in Vietnam, ones of its predecessors, the iPhone 13 Pro Max, remains hugely popular due to its superb configuration and falling price.
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In Vietnam, people are buying the 13 Pro max over a brand new 14 Plus since the price is similar. Since the 14 was announced, sales for the Pro max surged by 30%.
 
uiterlix said:
Inflation made Apple’s prices surpass the sweet point. Inflation makes newer models expensive than the just-as-good model it replaces. It seems that applying the MacRumors buyers guide inversely makes more sense these days. Just buy the previous model at the lowest price. “Don’t buy” becomes “Buy now”.
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I got criticised for pretty much saying this, though it's not inflation, it's actually corporate greed.
 
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Beautiful Opinion said:
I got criticised for pretty much saying this, though it's not inflation, it's actually corporate greed.
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It's not really about inflation nor corporate greed, it's about the exchange rate. We've had high inflation in the U.S. but iPhone 14 prices this year were the same as prices for comparable iPhone 13s last year.

In at least some overseas markets, prices of iPhones (in USD) have actually dropped. In the UK, for example, the pre-VAT price of a 128GB iPhone 13 Pro at launch last year was £790 which was equal to around $1,082 USD at the time. This year's 128GB iPhone 14 Pro launched at £915 pre-VAT which was equal to around $1,043 USD. The 14 Pro in USD is actually priced lower than the 13 Pro was last year.

Even with improvements to the Pro models, prices were the same (in markets like the U.S.) or lower (in markets like the UK) in USD. Unfortunately, the stronger USD in various markets has pushed the prices up in local currencies for those buyers but that's not from inflation or corporate greed.
 
steve09090 said:
I called up the Apple Store and they didn’t give the numbers, so I’m not sure how many they’re manufacturing.

Love to know how you got them.
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I don't know any number but it's obvious since you can get even 14 and 14+ from any store but can barely find a Pro and near never a PM. Make less of the lower and more Pros. It's been one and a half decades
 
SFjohn said:
I don’t think the price of this year’s iPhones is a problem. In fact Apple is shifting more production to the 14 Pro & Pro Max (the most expensive/high margin iPhones they make). Apple hasn’t failed, they’re making more money than ever on their highest end iPhones. 😱
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But they haven't shifted enough. I could find any 14/14+ in a nearby store since launch, but barely a Pro and near never a Max
 
compwiz1202 said:
But they haven't shifted enough. I could find any 14/14+ in a nearby store since launch, but barely a Pro and near never a Max
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This always happens. The high end models are hard to find at release because it’s what the tech enthusiasts want. But the lower end models end up selling much more over time.
 
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mrochester said:
This always happens. The high end models are hard to find at release because it’s what the tech enthusiasts want. But the lower end models end up selling much more over time.
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Exactly it's always happening, so they should know what to make by now. Make more Pros in the beginning, and then shift to regular once Christmas or whatever starts to boost regular demand comes.
 
compwiz1202 said:
Exactly it's always happening, so they should know what to make by now. Make more Pros in the beginning, and then shift to regular once Christmas or whatever starts to boost regular demand comes.
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However, as we 'know', by creating a void in the market, it can feint a perception that something is super popular, thus more desirable.

In the same way, by creating a glut in the market, the perception can be that it’s not as wanted.

Marketing strategy. And it seems to be working with you, and probably most people. It works.
 
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steve09090 said:
However, as we 'know', by creating a void in the market, it can feint a perception that something is super popular, thus more desirable.

In the same way, by creating a glut in the market, the perception can be that it’s not as wanted.

Marketing strategy. And it seems to be working with you, and probably most people. It works.
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Definitely didn't work for me. I went to the Flip Side. If you want me to buy something I already know I want, have it available. Same thing with the Wii two years after. Got sick of looking everywhere, so I got an XBox instead. At least Apple will most likely be back to regular shipping by 2023
 
steve09090 said:
I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with not knowing, but before you call me wrong, you should maybe read up. Legal v Illegal Insider Trading

edit: what you're saying is the cause of Apples world beating Stock Value is the definition of Legal Inside Trading.. But you have no basis for that.
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No you are wrong.

Insider trading and a publicly traded companies stock buybacks are two completely different things.

The article you linked merely explores when insider trading is illegal and when it isn't.
 
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