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Apple Slashes iPhone 5 Part Orders Due to Weak Demand
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I disagree. yes there are more and more people getting iPhones now. and everyday there's people up for renewing contract aka getting a new iphone. however, the real long-time iPhone supporters/users are on the cycle, meaning signing a new contract with the newly updated iPhone. I just don't get why Apple would make it difficult for its longtime supporters to upgrade their iPhone? Tons of the loyal fans, including me, just signed our contract so to get the iPhone 5 then when Apple changes the updating cycle, it will just make people really upset.
Yeah i know extra screen space is really nice, i came from a gs3 and i thought the i5 screen would be much smaller but actually i was really pleasently suprised i actually like the 4 inch screen its quite spacious imo and i dont have complaints about screen size
Despite Apple "slashes iPhone part orders" I noticed here in the Netherlands the iPhone 5 is hardly available, if you want to buy it on a contract.
Looking side by side with a S3 you realize Apple doesn't have to develop an iPhone Mini as the rumor when recently. The already have it (iPhone 5) and also already have an iPhone Nano: the 4(s).
Personally I postponed buying a new phone. The iPhone 4 still works great and we'll see what Apple and its competitors will come with the coming months.
Looking side by side with a S3 you realize Apple doesn't have to develop an iPhone Mini as the rumor when recently. The already have it (iPhone 5) and also already have an iPhone Nano: the 4(s).
Personally I postponed buying a new phone. The iPhone 4 still works great and we'll see what Apple and its competitors will come with the coming months.
yes. if it's a hardcore diehard fan that doesn't care about money. In the US, you will have to pay 3x more the price for a unlocked off-contract phone. I don't know if i want to spend almost 800 USD on a phone every year or even every several months. I LOVE Apple, iPhone but I have to be rational too........
Most will think I am crazy for saying this. But if Apple doesn't innovate much anymore, in five years they will become RIM, a company once the top dog, and thought to be unbeatable for years to come. Look back to like 2006, the Blackberry was the Phone to own, now they are 4th place and dying, behind Android, Apple, and Windows.
The iPhone 5 was a major letdown to me, basically still more of the same. Yes it's thinner, and a hair larger screen, but iOS is pretty much the same. A screen full of app icons, or as I call it, looks like the app drawer was left open look. In 2013, that is a very stale, and outdated UI.
But I truly believe this year Apple will bring out a major update in iOS7, with Ive's in control of the iPhone OS, I foresee a very good update in iOS, new UI, and big overhaul of the look, but done the Apple way, very well thought out, and great design sense. I think iOS7 will surprise even the hardcore Android crowd, and help Apple get some of them back.
And maybe not this year, but in 2014, a little larger screen too, bumping up to 4.3" screen size would be good. Don't need to go crazy big to 4.8" like Android, but 4" is too small today, I would like to see a slightly larger 4.3" screen, and new UI in iOS.
Really curious what Apple has in store this year for the next iPhone ? Will it come out in October and just be a iPhone 5S with minor improvements, same case as the current iPhone 5 ? Or will it go back to the Summer release, with all new UI redone iOS, and larger screen and whole new phone design ?
The iPhone 5 was a major letdown to me, basically still more of the same. Yes it's thinner, and a hair larger screen, but iOS is pretty much the same. A screen full of app icons, or as I call it, looks like the app drawer was left open look. In 2013, that is a very stale, and outdated UI.
But I truly believe this year Apple will bring out a major update in iOS7, with Ive's in control of the iPhone OS, I foresee a very good update in iOS, new UI, and big overhaul of the look, but done the Apple way, very well thought out, and great design sense. I think iOS7 will surprise even the hardcore Android crowd, and help Apple get some of them back.
And maybe not this year, but in 2014, a little larger screen too, bumping up to 4.3" screen size would be good. Don't need to go crazy big to 4.8" like Android, but 4" is too small today, I would like to see a slightly larger 4.3" screen, and new UI in iOS.
Really curious what Apple has in store this year for the next iPhone ? Will it come out in October and just be a iPhone 5S with minor improvements, same case as the current iPhone 5 ? Or will it go back to the Summer release, with all new UI redone iOS, and larger screen and whole new phone design ?
Apple is a great company that makes great products, but IMHO they have lost sight of what's most important.......their customers. We had/have 2 iPhones, an iPad 3, an Apple TV, and considered ourselves an Apple family. Unfortunately, Apple's closed ecosystem, while great for Apple products, caused some problems. We had difficulty texting grandkids who switched to Android phones. Some of our iPhone peripherals were going to have connector problems if we upgraded to the iPhone 5, and we wanted to be able to choose whatever product we preferred at update time every 2 years, regardless of ecosystem. So, we bit the bullet and bought 2 Galaxy S3 phones. The change has been challenging, because Apple doesn't make it easy to sync their products with others'. After 3 weeks we've overcome most of the hurdles and learned lots of workarounds, so our iPad can sync with our Galaxys (use Google's cloud instead of Apple's). The good news is that in 2 years we'll be able to buy what's best for us, regardless of platform. I'm surprised how many people we know or meet have made the same switch for the same reasons. Apple, wake up, we'd like to come back in 2 years to a product and ecosystem that's not what's best for you, but what's best for us. No, it doesn't surprise me that sales may not be meeting expectations. Good luck.
Ok... back that date up to January 14, 2010
My point was... there is always someone who is ready to buy a new phone any given day.
A person may only buy a new phone once every 2 or 3 years...
But people buy new phones every day.
The comment I was replying to said everyone who wants an iPhone already has one. But that's not always an accurate statement.
There is always someone who is ready to upgrade... or buy their first iPhone... or whatever. There are a few scenarios.
Do you think a day goes by when Apple sells ZERO iPhones across the globe? Maybe on holidays... but the online store is still open.
I applaud you for your patient. I LOVED my iPhone 4. it was the best phone I've ever owned. But 26 months is way too long for one phone, I could NOT wait any longer to get a new iPhone. and I just HAD to get the iPhone 5. but now with all these rumors about a shorter updating cycle with possible iPhone 5S or 6, it is really hard for me to not get the next one but without a contract iPhone is way too expensive in the USA.
No surprise by this announcement.
IOS and the iphone are a bit tired.
We asked for a bigger screen for iphone and go a taller one (boo).
Frankly how much more can they do with the hardware???
So that leaves innovating with software (IOS) and so far they have proven they cannot fix anything, and they cannot release functional stuff either.
I am still on my out of the box IOS, and on my rMBP same thing. I dont trust newer software and this is GOING TO KILL apple.
Hmmmmmmm
IOS and the iphone are a bit tired.
We asked for a bigger screen for iphone and go a taller one (boo).
Frankly how much more can they do with the hardware???
So that leaves innovating with software (IOS) and so far they have proven they cannot fix anything, and they cannot release functional stuff either.
I am still on my out of the box IOS, and on my rMBP same thing. I dont trust newer software and this is GOING TO KILL apple.
Hmmmmmmm
The whole concept of apps on your smartphone. It's easy to take for granted, I know.
I responded to that in a later post.
But that has been an issue since day 1 - it's not something new in iOS 6.....if you've been using an iPhone for more than a year and are just no bellyaching about this, you have no reason.
On the other hand, if you've stayed away from an iPhone or bought one and subsequently got rid of it because of this, that's fine. Let's not pretend iOS 6, or some change in Apple recently is the cause of this.
As I stated - each company has a different strategy when it comes to their respective OSes.
Yes - and I might be one of them. I know I'm only one grain of sand, but the wind can blow a lot of sand in all directions.
Apple really ought to do something. While iPhone is great, there's no real motivation to upgrade the device. That's why I panned the 5. If the 5S offers nothing substantial, I'll either keep the 4S or look elsewhere.
For what it's worth, the ubuntu phone looks like it could be something interesting.
Apple take heed - and you should really start listening to your customers. With Jobs you could afford to be arrogant - but no longer.
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Bought my first 300 shares in 2009, 20010, and again 2011, and made a nice profit on each purchase. Bought my last 100 shares at $630, which at this point has wiped out a good chunk of the earlier profits. I'm worried about my investment in AAPL. I'm hoping the stock can work it's way back to $600, at which point (unless Apple triples the dividend, which is highly improbable) I will probably dump it and replace it with Google, or whatever else seems like a better horse to ride at that time. My break-even point is $400 -- I'll dump the stock when it falls to that level (a distinct possibility, if Apple doesn't get off its butt and start to innovate again). Apple is still a juggernaut for sure (multibillion profits for the foreseeable future all but guaranteed), but the years of 50%+ gains are over. At best, I see the stock oscillating around the current price, +/- $100 over the next 5 years. Even this may require significant concessions toward the stock holders (in the form of higher dividends). Sucks to be me
Got A 4S In October 2012
My wife and I got our first smart phones in October of 2012. The model we chose was the 4S (over the then newly released 5). The 4S seemed "good enough" for us and did actually more than we will ever need a phone to do. I don't think watching videos and surfing the internet on a tiny device like a phone make a lot of sense. So for us it boils down to 1) phone calls, 2) texting, 3) camera, and 4) music player. And that is all. We both hope Apple will continue to release iOS updates that work with the 4S (and not abandon an "older model" a couple years down the road). We had our previous "dumb" phones for 7 years and they "just worked". I don't think asking that a smart phone stay "current" (SW-wise) for at least 5 years, is too much to ask.
My wife and I got our first smart phones in October of 2012. The model we chose was the 4S (over the then newly released 5). The 4S seemed "good enough" for us and did actually more than we will ever need a phone to do. I don't think watching videos and surfing the internet on a tiny device like a phone make a lot of sense. So for us it boils down to 1) phone calls, 2) texting, 3) camera, and 4) music player. And that is all. We both hope Apple will continue to release iOS updates that work with the 4S (and not abandon an "older model" a couple years down the road). We had our previous "dumb" phones for 7 years and they "just worked". I don't think asking that a smart phone stay "current" (SW-wise) for at least 5 years, is too much to ask.
Yes. Different strategies. And I won't pretend to get into the mind of the person your responding to. But personally - there's a difference in iOS 6 that wasn't there before. And that's (of course) Maps.
Not being able to choose a default app has always an issue of iOS. But as much as it "might" have been an issue for some - that lack of feature screamed out/shot a big signal flare into the sky when it came to maps. Because for the first time - for some - it wasn't just what they preferred or a feature that they would find useful - but for some - "mandatory."
But I see you addressed that in the latter part of your response.
Maps has been beaten to death - many thousands of times. Like I said - works for me and I think 90% of the public. I understand how annoying a faulty maps must be to those who are having issues - but I don't know what people expected Apple to do.....
Maybe iOS 7 will give people the option to switch default apps - I suppose that would solve the problem for many - and Google Maps for iOS certainly is a great offering.
Still find it interesting that Google adds all the functionality Apple wanted to add (now for free on the app store) after Apple dropped them.....those iOS users are worth some $$$ to them I'd imagine.
Wow.
After reading some of the posts in this thread, I didn't know if I was on MacRumors or the Wall Street Journal web page.
After reading some of the posts in this thread, I didn't know if I was on MacRumors or the Wall Street Journal web page.
That may be in the US.
But that's hardly representative of 90% of iPhone buyers worldwide.
For me, it also "works"... sort of. Nowhere near as good as Google Maps.
Good. Apple is getting what it deserves.
I want them to feel the heat and start doing great things.
Their 2-yr release cycle is extremely gay. Not only does it piss Apple consumers off, but it allows the competition to catch up.
And every iteration of the iPhone is the same. All that is really changing is how it feels in your hand. The OS - what really matters - is changing very little and it's getting very old.
I mean where the hell is the new UI? Like how Apple went from Mac OS crap to aqua. That was nice. And that hasn't happened to the iPhone yet. Making it more boring each year.
Not to mention that they charge so much for a phone yet deliver so little advances every year. I think Apple will get burned soon, and that they deserve. They collected a whole lot of cash with their head start. However, Apple wowed us when it was in the negatives. And now that it is so immense it is avoiding taxes and retarding the wow factor.
**** you Apple. But I still love you.
I want them to feel the heat and start doing great things.
Their 2-yr release cycle is extremely gay. Not only does it piss Apple consumers off, but it allows the competition to catch up.
And every iteration of the iPhone is the same. All that is really changing is how it feels in your hand. The OS - what really matters - is changing very little and it's getting very old.
I mean where the hell is the new UI? Like how Apple went from Mac OS crap to aqua. That was nice. And that hasn't happened to the iPhone yet. Making it more boring each year.
Not to mention that they charge so much for a phone yet deliver so little advances every year. I think Apple will get burned soon, and that they deserve. They collected a whole lot of cash with their head start. However, Apple wowed us when it was in the negatives. And now that it is so immense it is avoiding taxes and retarding the wow factor.
**** you Apple. But I still love you.
This thread is an example of why Apple makes money. All of a sudden the iPhone 5 is a bad phone and boring. I need the new one when it comes out. It will save the day.
No, just like now, the masses will find flaws in the current iPhone in order to justify getting the new one that is rumored to come out.
If you don't like the iPhone, get another phone. Other than that, be quiet. People add to the cycle by complaining.
No, just like now, the masses will find flaws in the current iPhone in order to justify getting the new one that is rumored to come out.
If you don't like the iPhone, get another phone. Other than that, be quiet. People add to the cycle by complaining.
I'd bet the US number is more like 95-98%.....
Those who have issues are always the loudest - and the media loves to blow things up. Not indicative of any one person's experience, just saying...
First, your 90% statistic is pulled from your behind. Next, People didn't expect Apple to ship such a sub-par product and once shipped and reported as sub-par, maybe some people expected Apple to go back.
The fact is, Apple maps is still crap today, more than 6 months later (first previews of WWDC that were made public). They are incomplete, favor "pretty" rendering instead of legibility, have gross problems with integrating 3rd party POI data...
It's a real black eye. Don't underplay it, people lost their jobs at Apple over them.
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Executives don't lose their jobs over "media blowing things up", they lose their jobs when the project really went wrong. Don't underplay the issues of Apple Maps, it just makes you sound like a cheerleader for a team that admitted defeat.
Just accept Apple shipped a shoddy product and move on to something else, most of us have.
That was innovative? Please look up Pocket PC. I had one in 2004, apps on my smartphone. Could even load them from any source. Wonderful times.