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ravenvii said:
Forgive my ignorance, but who are those ZTE guys?

They make very cheap Android handsets. Generally with hardware most vendors wouldn't have touched a year ago.

Probably not much profit for them, IMO
 
Not since 2007 has apple "innovated" any particular product. Everything has been very incremental or slight improvements upon already proven products.

Iphone and iOS was a game changer 4 years ago. Thank you apple.

Now that we have that out of the way, what else has apple "innovated"?

If I am being honest, Google is the biggest innovator in the game right now.

You are so wrong. You forget the revolutionary battery charger.


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They make very cheap Android handsets. Generally with hardware most vendors wouldn't have touched a year ago.

Probably not much profit for them, IMO

Well. They are just following Apple lead here. Remember those MacBooks with C2D CPUs?
 
Not since 2007 has apple "innovated" any particular product. Everything has been very incremental or slight improvements upon already proven products.

Iphone and iOS was a game changer 4 years ago. Thank you apple.

Now that we have that out of the way, what else has apple "innovated"?

If I am being honest, Google is the biggest innovator in the game right now.

Not to pick a fight, but what is Google doing that is so innovative right now???? Can you enlighten me?

BTW... the iPad was a little innovative success over the past year. :)
 
It's pretty stupid to lump in full-featured, app-centric smartphones like the iPhone and premiere Android devices with dumbphones like what you see clogging Nokia's lineup - not even mentioning all the other crap that is bizarrely associated with $600+ app-phones.

Ok, if you're only bringing smartphones to the fight, Nokia sold over 100 million of them last year, more than twice Apple. It's not their fault the article is about phones in total and Nokia has a wide portfolio of products to fit different niches.
 
Not to pick a fight, but what is Google doing that is so innovative right now???? Can you enlighten me?

BTW... the iPad was a little innovative success over the past year. :)

Obviously search! Is the biggest.

google maps mobile for android
Gmail
They pushed forward NFC in smart phones in the USA.(apple is rumored to be following)
They are acutally redesigning Android for tablets, not scaling up iOS for iphone and Ipod touch


A few of my answers are completing defining a particular industry... some are just making a great leap in improving upon product.
 
Someone help me understand the "Apple makes 1 phone" argument? How is this relevant?

Let's do a thought experiment. Let's suppose Apple marketed 10 different iPhones. Would the total number of iPhones sold increase? 10 different iPhone models wouldn't neccessarily offer a better range of prices. The current iPhone line already offers a great range of prices - even a $49 model. So, basically the answer is no. What we would see is an end of a single iPhone dominating the market. 1 Apple iPhone model would just cannibilize the sale of another. Nevertheless, Apple's gross profit would be the exact same.
 
Google is our friend.

ZTE Handsets (roll over smartphone tab to see those)

Review of the ZTE Blade, apparently quite popular with those who don't want to spend a lot, titled "Two-Thirds of a Nexus One, for One-Third the Price".

It's really amazing how Android has taken off around the world. It has allowed any company to get in on the action.

Which is good for all. The way I see it, it's a HUGE market and as long as Apple continues to make iOS great and great hardware like the iPhone4 they will sell very well.

Android OS is making great strides because it's a good alternative. But I think the hit and miss hardware is the issue. Unlike the iPhone where you know you're getting a well made device and one that will be supported during your ownership, you don't have that guarantee with an HTC, Samsung or other phones that use the Android OS.

The big loser seem to be Microsoft.... they are getting left far behind. LG needs to step it up too. From what I've seen, their handsets leaves lots to be desired.
 
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Not for long!
 
Obviously search! Is the biggest.

google maps mobile for android
Gmail
They pushed forward NFC in smart phones in the USA.(apple is rumored to be following)
They are acutally redesigning Android for tablets, not scaling up iOS for iphone and Ipod touch

A few of my answers are completing defining a particular industry... some are just making a great leap in improving upon product.

I fail to see the difference in what Google is doing and what Apple is doing??? I see some nice things in your list, but things such as NFC is no huge innovation? It's been used in other places like Japan for years. It's a "me too" addition as it will be for Apple. As for the Android for Tablets... again, what is so innovative about the Honeycomb approach? It's a variation on the innovation set by Apple a year ago.

Don't get me wrong... all nice features... but innovation? Nothing you list changes the game... only enhances the playing field. Not trying to make light of some of the things they've done. Google has been doing well, but they have yet to do something in the drivers seat that makes the whole industry stop and retool. Apple did that with the iPod, iPhone and the iPad. Huge difference.
 
Someone help me understand the "Apple makes 1 phone" argument? How is this relevant?

Well said!

It is not really an argument. Apple fanboys seem to hate that Apple isn't the world's largest phone supplier, so use the 'one phone' thing to make it seem a bigger achievement.

Apple has done very, very well with the iPhone, but the fact that there is only one (or a couple more if you include the 3G and 3GS) makes it no more or less impressive.
 
I have a ZTE blade, it really is pretty sweet for the money.

Cost me £89 and i find it just as good if not better than the iphone 3GS i used to have.
It isn't IOS obviously, but the android app store is getting better and better and the phone is still fully capable of push mail and other app push msgs etc.

It's only downer is the camera in my opinion. I've got the ipad for everything else
 
Well said!

It is not really an argument. Apple fanboys seem to hate that Apple isn't the world's largest phone supplier, so use the 'one phone' thing to make it seem a bigger achievement.

Apple has done very, very well with the iPhone, but the fact that there is only one (or a couple more if you include the 3G and 3GS) makes it no more or less impressive.

Of course it makes it more impressive. Android-purveyors need to flood the market with all manner of poorly-conceived boxes in order to compete. There is currently no iPhone-killer in existence, primarily because the competition doesn't know how to make one. They certainly lack the ecosystem, anyway. Priorities are quite difference outside Cupertino.
 
Since it's about both smart and dumb phones, it means very little. Apple doesn't have a model in the dumb-phone segment, and ultimately dumb-phones are destined to die out. It's like saying Apple's computer share slipped by counting virtual machines/virtual servers along with the real ones. It might be interesting from a generic overall technology perspective of uninteresting numbers, but in real terms doesn't reflect the Mac (or in this case, iPhone) growth or non-growth.
 
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