Apple Slips to Fifth in Global Mobile Phone Share as ZTE Surges

[gnasher729]

Hi, I saw this on engadget. According to the data, ZTE was higher than Apple in 2009 as well.
What am I missing?

Basic maths: If ZTE is higher than Apple in 2010, and had less growth from 2009 to 2010, then they _must_ have been higher in 2009.

http://www.reghardware.com/2011/01/28/phone_market_2010/

has slightly different numbers. Quote: "Rim and Apple, as we saw yesterday, both recorded year-on-year gains: unit shipments up 41.5 per cent and 89.2 per cent, respectively, to 48.87m and 47.5m units. Rim accounted for 3.6 per cent of the phone market in 2010, Apple for 3.5 per cent." They have RIM and Apple at #4 and #5, with Motorola and Sony Ericsson dropping out of the top five because their sales actually dropped - both RIM and Apple sold less in 2010 than Motorola and Sony Ericsson sold in 2009.

 

[OllyW]

I meant to say that there are still iPhones, 3G's, 3GS's and 4's out there making up that marketshare, as for 1 carrier, do people honestly believe AT&T is the only carrier in the World? I mean the iPhone is on 5 carriers in the UK.

Make that six.

 

[johndallas999]

Hopefully this will make Apple get off their arses and get IOS updated, it looks so dated now.

 

[haruhiko]

ZTE phones probably have virtually zero presence outside China. I don't even see one ZTE WTF phone in Hong Kong.

 

[*LTD*]

Don't even bother asking about ZTE. LOL probably a far, far cry from Apple quality and attention to detail.

I have absolutely no problem with Apple slipping a bit. There's just so much garbage constantly expanding and floating to the top. I really do feel sorry for the masses that have to be (or, yechh . . by choice) subjected to it.

I wonder how many of Nokia's dumpbhone crapware is lumped in with these stats . . .

Hopefully this will make Apple get off their arses and get IOS updated, it looks so dated now.

Why?

You honestly think the likes of ZTE is going to make Apple do anything?

 

[Piggie]

Can you imagine what would happen if Nokia ever decided to fully embrace the Android OS for phones and also new Nokia tablets.

 

[vincenz]

Had never heard of ZTE until now.

 

[dgree03]

Don't even bother asking about ZTE. LOL probably a far, far cry from Apple quality and attention to detail.

I have absolutely no problem with Apple slipping a bit. There's just so much garbage constantly expanding and floating to the top. I really do feel sorry for the masses that have to be (or, yechh . . by choice) subjected to it.

I wonder how many of Nokia's dumpbhone crapware is lumped in with these stats . . .

Funny because overseas, Iphones compete with Nokia, Samsung, BB, ZTE etc on MULTIPLE carriers... yet it is slipping globally? Hmmm not even you could spin that.

That being said Apple can rake in the profits like no one else can, so this is how they will survive. But i makes you wonder tho, why as apple customers(not investors) are we excited that apple always remains number one in media device/PC profits?

 

[*LTD*]

Can you imagine what would happen if Nokia ever decided to fully embrace the Android OS for phones and also new Nokia tablets.

They'd just **** it up.

Like HP is about to do with WebOS. Just watch.

 

[OllyW]

I wonder how many of Nokia's dumpbhone crapware is lumped in with these stats . . .

Have you bothered to read it?

It's global sales for all mobile phones. It says Nokia sold 453 million mobile phones last year.

 

[ciTiger]

I don't hear about ZTE often but I know they make phones and now...
Also tablets... This XMas they suposedly made a lot of sales with ZTE V9 a low cost android tablet. I was tempted to buy one... But since ZTE quality never impressed me I decided to wait for the iPad 2.

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kErxk3YngEc

Specs: (best google for ZTE V9 for reviews though...)
http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/en/products/mobile/mobile_detail_291.jsp?mobileName=ZTE V9#

 

[spazzcat]

Hopefully this will make Apple get off their arses and get IOS updated, it looks so dated now.

No it doesn't.

 

[*LTD*]

Funny because overseas, Iphones compete with Nokia, Samsung, BB, ZTE etc on MULTIPLE carriers... yet it is slipping globally? Hmmm not even you could spin that.

That being said Apple can rake in the profits like no one else can, so this is how they will survive. But i makes you wonder tho, why as apple customers(not investors) are we excited that apple always remains number one in media device/PC profits?

Profit = more resources for innovation.

Inject a company like Microsoft with massive amounts of cash and they'll piss it away on new versions of Office and coffee runs.

Inject a company like Apple with massive amounts of cash and they'll change markets almost overnight and actually put great things into the hands of consumers. To actually use. Instead of vapour.

 

[roadbloc]

Don't even bother asking about ZTE. LOL probably a far, far cry from Apple quality and attention to detail.

Uhuh. Key word there, 'probably'. You've never used a ZTE product. Yet again you are talking trash.

I have absolutely no problem with Apple slipping a bit. There's just so much garbage constantly expanding and floating to the top. I really do feel sorry for the masses that have to be (or, yechh . . by choice) subjected to it.

Yeah.... right.

I wonder how many of Nokia's dumpbhone crapware is lumped in with these stats . . .

You mean that 'crapware' that is outselling Apple and everyone seems to keep buying from? Many people buy from Nokia for quality phones. I am one of them.

Why?

You honestly think the likes of ZTE is going to make Apple do anything?

No. And no-one, including the article was implying that Apple would be crapping their pants over it. All the article says is that iPhones are not selling amazingly worldwide. Of course, I expect you to reply with the usual "20 Billion Quarter" response you usually give when told Apple are not the best at everything (if anything), but that's just your refusal to accept anything non-Apple as potentially decent, never mind better than Apple.

You feel sorry for them using Nokia? I feel sorry for them who can't see anything beyond Apple. You must haemorrhage money sir.

 

[Zepaw]

ZTE made my mobile hotspot from Verizon which came out late 2010. Never heard of them before then.

 

[Stella]

Profit = more resources for innovation.

Inject a company like Microsoft with massive amounts of cash and they'll piss it away on new versions of Office and coffee runs.

Inject a company like Apple with massive amounts of cash and they'll change markets almost overnight and actually put great things into the hands of consumers. To actually use. Instead of vapour.

Vapourware - such as the iPhone 4 White?

 

[Oletros]

I really do feel sorry for the masses that have to be (or, yechh . . by choice) subjected to it.

The saddest thing is that you're not joking.

 

[*LTD*]

Have you bothered to read it?

It's global sales for all mobile phones. It says Nokia sold 453 million mobile phones last year.

It's pretty stupid to lump in full-featured, app-centric smartphones like the iPhone and premiere Android devices with dumbphones like what you see clogging Nokia's lineup - not even mentioning all the other crap that is bizarrely associated with $600+ app-phones.

In many places iPhones are still a luxury, carrier-subsidized or not.

Vapourware - such as the iPhone 4 White?

Does it actually matter at this point?

No. it doesn't. What DOES matter, for example, is that long-suffering Verizon customers can now get an iPhone - black, white, whatever the colour may be. The point is, it's an iPhone, that offers consumers access to Apple's ecosystem.

 

[ericinboston]

Now that Apple has opened up the iPhone to other carriers (just Verizon right now) as well as coming up on their 5th gen iPhone, I would expect the 4.0% Apple market share to increase quite a bit...maybe to 10% by end of 2011 if Apple is lucky.

However...remember...this is cellular phone marketshare...not simply smartphone. Thus, not everyone in the market for a cellphone is gonna plunk down $199 PLUS a 2 year contract. Plenty of great phones for $100 or less that do NOT require a 2 year contract.

Analysts are stating that Apple's iPhone 5 will have a $99 pricetag at some level/model...hopefully it's simply storage space (16GB) and not missing features or slower CPUs or other worse tech specs than it's iPhone 5 brothers.

I'd love to grab an iPhone 5 32GB for $199 or $149. I just simply am not paying over $200 for an iPhone 5.

 

[E.Lizardo]

This will change soon as more carriers start competing, expect buy one get one for iphones.

A lot of countries have multiple carriers for the iPhone.Any of them have BOGO deals?
No.

 

[OllyW]

It's pretty stupid to lump in full-featured, app-centric smartphones like the iPhone and premiere Android devices with dumbphones like what you see clogging Nokia's lineup - not even mentioning all the other crap that is bizarrely associated with $600+ app-phones.

In many places iPhones are still a luxury, carrier-subsidized or not.

It's for mobile phone sales and the last time I looked the iPhone was a mobile phone.

 

[roadbloc]

In many places iPhones are still a luxury, carrier-subsidized or not.

Yeah. Because the lack of a decent antenna thanks to Apple's cash injection to "Innovation" is real luxury.

I'm not denying iPhones are no good. But they certainly are not luxury devices. They are just expensive. A cheaper Android, BB or even Symbian based phone can do everything an iPhone can.

No. it doesn't. What DOES matter, for example, is that long-suffering Verizon customers can now get an iPhone - black, white, whatever the colour may be. The point is, it's an iPhone, that offers consumers access to Apple's ecosystem.

How innovative of Apple to release a mobile phone on more than one network.

 

[zacman]

It's global sales for all mobile phones. It says Nokia sold 453 million mobile phones last year.

Just to add the smartphone number:

Nokia sold 30 million smartphones in Q4/10 which is an increase of about 5 million over the Q3/10 sales.

Nokia also reported that they sold in November and December 2010 about 5.5 million smartphones with S^3. Considering that the C7 and C6-01 were released just in Dezember in most countries of Europe that's a really a good number for their new OS (just compare it with WinMobile 7 that only sold 2.2 million units from October to December).

 

[Stella]

Does it actually matter at this point?

No. it doesn't. What DOES matter, for example, is that long-suffering Verizon customers can now get an iPhone - black, white, whatever the colour may be. The point is, it's an iPhone, that offers consumers access to Apple's ecosystem.

So, its OK for Apple to produce vapourware but not other companies? Ah, LTDs double standards.

"Originally Posted by *LTD* View Post
Inject a company like Apple with massive amounts of cash and they'll change markets almost overnight and actually put great things into the hands of consumers. To actually use. Instead of vapour."

LTD must feeling insecure again....

Once again, LTD posts are a total hoot.


ROOOOTFL!!!

 

[dgree03]

Profit = more resources for innovation.

Inject a company like Microsoft with massive amounts of cash and they'll piss it away on new versions of Office and coffee runs.

Inject a company like Apple with massive amounts of cash and they'll change markets almost overnight and actually put great things into the hands of consumers. To actually use. Instead of vapour.

Not since 2007 has apple "innovated" any particular product. Everything has been very incremental or slight improvements upon already proven products.

Iphone and iOS was a game changer 4 years ago. Thank you apple.

Now that we have that out of the way, what else has apple "innovated"?

If I am being honest, Google is the biggest innovator in the game right now.