Apple Software Updates (this and next) Tuesday

[NicoMan]

Re: A surf'n Safari

Originally posted by SeaFox
Nobody has mentioned Safari 1.1 (or .2) as a potential software announcement. Something a little more stable perhaps?

Yes! I mean I know Apple has changed its seeding policy for Safari, but I am surprised we haven't heard anything about Safari in a while...

 

[NicoMan]

Originally posted by vrapan
Ummm.. For a couple of dollars more and 10 minutes to rip the CD I would buy the CD and do without the even light DRM have my songs as MP3 and not AAC and be able to sell or trade the CD if I want to. I think that iTMS is better for someone that watns to buy few songs of an album. If you want to buy the whole album you are better of buying the CD.

I'm with you on this one. Especially when you can get bargain-basement CDs. Furthermore, when you have got the CD (when it's not the "protected" variety), you can rip it at whatever bitrate you like (you don't have to stick to that 128kbps AAc bollocks).

 

[mgescuro]

If iTunes for Europe is in fact ready, it woul dmake sense to announce it in Europe at the Keynote next week, don't you think??
Considering that Apple is still stating that iTunes for Windows is still targeted for end of the year, it won't be announced tomorrow. At best, it could be a Public beta. But how successful is a Public Beta on a disparate system as Windows??

Most likely, iCal, iSync, maybe even Safari.

Originally posted by trog
Software announcements? Hmmm... if its not iTunes for Windows what could it be? Can't be Panther yet. Maybe iTunes store for Europe?

How about Apple's own word processor to go with Keynote? Now that would be nice.

 

[eric67]

agree

Originally posted by nagromme
I predict Paris will be a big long demo of Panther (which is software, after all), with some new features mentioned and a ship date announced no later than October. New PowerBooks too--IF Apple CAN announce them!

yes I think that is the minimal plan... Panther demoed and release date announced (do not forget MacOSX was annouced 2 years ago at Apple Expo Paris, so it can be a birthday present...
then, PowerBook will be nice, iTMS for Europe better, for Windows = better for Apple (more consumers), and finally the long-waited Apple iOffice....
one week to go

 

[eric67]

simply true

Originally posted by vrapan
Ummm.. For a couple of dollars more and 10 minutes to rip the CD I would buy the CD and do without the even light DRM have my songs as MP3 and not AAC and be able to sell or trade the CD if I want to. I think that iTMS is better for someone that watns to buy few songs of an album. If you want to buy the whole album you are better of buying the CD.

I agree with out, but iTMS has found a nice "niche" market = people likes to generate their own audio compilation, of what they like and want to keep ; and what they do not like..few songs on an album...
both system (full audio CD and iTMS) are NOT opposed , but simply complementary

 

[evolu]

Re: Re: My GOD, it's true!!

Originally posted by gopher
No way...I want it to be 3 lbs. With an OLED foldable display and an infrared keyboard and touchpad.

Right on!

"Ah, hold on, let me unfold my computer and check my calendar."

Very futuristic.

 

[bukweet]

New G4 7457 NOT in new iMacs??

For what it's worth, MacBidouille is citing that the new iMacs do NOT use the new 7457 G4's, but rather use a revised version of the 7455.

They also speculate that this is why the new Powerbooks were not announced today.

 

[NoPrideELF]

Originally posted by NicoMan
I'm with you on this one. Especially when you can get bargain-basement CDs. Furthermore, when you have got the CD (when it's not the "protected" variety), you can rip it at whatever bitrate you like (you don't have to stick to that 128kbps AAc bollocks).

That's what I was saying in the first place.I couldn't believe someone actually told me they'd rather pay the same price on iTMS as the CD would cost and not actually have the CD just because they couldn't deal with inserting into their computer and having iTunes DO EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THEM.

 

[WishIWasntHere]

Re: Apple Software Updates (this and next) Tuesday

Originally posted by Macrumors
With the week not over yet, we've heard that Apple will be making software announcements tomorrow, as well as next Tuesday -- with one unexpected announcement.

If it's expected that there will be an unexpected announcement, doesn't that make it expected?

Perhaps it is expected that an announcement will be made about something unknown.

 

[GregGomer]

Logic Free update

i'm hopeful that it will be a new version of Logic Free, that would be great! The old educational version is so old it's not really worth using, and it's OS 9 only.

Greg

 

[greenstork]

Originally posted by lewdvig
The clock is ticking on the Mac native version of Office.

I would love an Apple Office Suite too but I just don't see it happening. As of right now, it would be illegal for Apple to make a program that could read/write Office 2003 files under the DCMA.

Perhaps more people should have read the Office 2003 DRM thread that ran last week. It spells bad news for any altearnative to MS Office.

See the Macrumors thread for more info:
Digital Right Management in Office 2003

 

[CaptainScarlet]

Originally posted by NoPrideELF
That's what I was saying in the first place.I couldn't believe someone actually told me they'd rather pay the same price on iTMS as the CD would cost and not actually have the CD just because they couldn't deal with inserting into their computer and having iTunes DO EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THEM.

Dude, just re-rip the CD after you burned it...Now you can do anything with it...

iTunes selection on the other hand, is below-par....that's my only gripe!!

 

[jettredmont]

Re: Re: Re: love it

Originally posted by atomwork
well i understand the basic theroy but the truth is different. A 15 sec song ain't a song and should be free. Its mostly talk or something. I saw also a new album for 13.99 to buy on the apple store. Was only on CD. If you ask me that's way to hight. I just don't feel that this is so much better. It won't help to stop sucking music over peer-peer networks. Thats sad. 13.99... I rather buy it for 18 bucks and get the CD and music tracks lyric.

If the artist/label wants to give it away for free then they don't need the iTMS service for that now, do they?

If it's a 15-second track, you can:

1) Just not buy it if you don't want it
2) Buy it with the rest of the album (at album price) if you want a complete album
3) Complain to the artist about their crappy non-song tracks that are very important to you to have but not important enough for 99 cents.

Personally, I rarely value tracks that are less than a minute long ... the whole "Fingertips" series on MTBG/Apollo 18 was cute, but, even so, collectively wouldn't have garnered 99c from me ... OTOH, the few short tracks I do value I somehow am able to afford for either 99c or as a part of an album.

 

[SBG88]

I want a lollipop, a red one. Ooo Ooo no a grape one...

or an appleworks upgrade like the iApps that have been rumored. That would be better than a lollipop.

 

[cb911]

hhmmm... no PowerBooks tomorrow, eh? well they can't be far behind. now that the iMac has been updated there's no way Apple can leave the PowerBooks specs below that of their 'consumer' model. Pro's need more power after all! and i'm not just talking about power power, i'm talking about portable power!

and whatever iTMS is released i just hope it means i can buy songs from Australia! but prolly not yet...

 

[aafuss1]

Originally posted by trog
Software announcements? Hmmm... if its not iTunes for Windows what could it be? Can't be Panther yet. Maybe iTunes store for Europe?

How about Apple's own word processor to go with Keynote? Now that would be nice.

I'm thinking maybe new versions of iSync and iCal, and maybe a new version of AppleWorks (long overdue for a major new version release).

 

[jettredmont]

Originally posted by greenstork
I would love an Apple Office Suite too but I just don't see it happening. As of right now, it would be illegal for Apple to make a program that could read/write Office 2003 files under the DCMA.

Perhaps more people should have read the Office 2003 DRM thread that ran last week. It spells bad news for any altearnative to MS Office.

See the Macrumors thread for more info:
Digital Right Management in Office 2003

This assumes that people will be using the DRM in Office. This is highly unlikely 99% of the time as it requires the latest versions of Windows/Office AND a dedicated certificate-serving Windows machine. Moreover, outside a LAN, no one can read those DRM'd documents, "allowed" or not; you can't read them on youur home PC just like you can't read them on your home Mac.

Personally, if I worked for an office with such a restrictive "Rights Management" structure I'd quit. Period.

As a home user: chances are very good you'll never see a DRM'd document, and astoundingly high that you'll never create one (how many homes do you know of operating Windows Domains with Active Directory?)

 

[beelzeben]

new java update

looks like one of the updates is already available.

java 1.4.1 update 1 is available in software update (39mb)

 

[applekid]

iCal I would like to have.

iSync I don't use it so don't care about it.

A office replacement suite... Catch-22. Apple goes forward, we lose Office and most likely, most of the compatibility with Office. Apple doesn't go forward, we have to keep paying hundreds of dollars for software that is overpriced.

What I really want is an iApp that is a slimmed down version of Soundtrack. Use QT Instruments and compose music easily using sheet music or a virtual keyboard on the screen.

Well whatever Paris brings, shouldn't be extremely cool, but the fact Steve Jobs is there leaves you wondering. Personally, I'm hoping for PBs for the sake of you people that need one (sorry, not a mobile user at the moment) and a demo of Panther that has MORE features that what's been shown. Amaze me with like 20-50 of the best features out of the over 100 like with Jaguar.

 

[jj2003]

Re: Re: My GOD, it's true!!

Originally posted by gopher
No way...I want it to be 3 lbs. With an OLED foldable display and an infrared keyboard and touchpad.

The two first requirements are a bit harder but try using 12" Powerbook for a while and you will notice that Apple has been very good with the infrared propeties of the palm rest. It should not be hard to implement this to the keyboard and touchpad, but I would not bet on the popularity of this feature

 

[JJTiger1]

Back from the Dead...

OS 9.2.5 as Classic for OS 10.2.8 and Panther.

9-2-5 = Taking care of business... get it?
=-=
May as well make it good baseless speculation....

As wishful thinking as many others who have posted....

 

[lewdvig]

Originally posted by jettredmont
This assumes that people will be using the DRM in Office. This is highly unlikely 99% of the time as it requires the latest versions of Windows/Office AND a dedicated certificate-serving Windows machine. Moreover, outside a LAN, no one can read those DRM'd documents, "allowed" or not; you can't read them on youur home PC just like you can't read them on your home Mac.

Personally, if I worked for an office with such a restrictive "Rights Management" structure I'd quit. Period.

As a home user: chances are very good you'll never see a DRM'd document, and astoundingly high that you'll never create one (how many homes do you know of operating Windows Domains with Active Directory?)

Common sense? That has NO PLACE HERE!

:^)

DRM on office docs is an IT support nightmare. This will die as fast as MS's subscription based consumer licensing model (they will deny it ever existed if you ask them enough).

Besides - SCO shenanigans notwithstanding - MS's hold of the corporate desktop is waning.

 

[Freg3000]

Re: new java update

Originally posted by beelzeben
looks like one of the updates is already available.

java 1.4.1 update 1 is available in software update (39mb)

The Java 1.4.1 Update 1 adds the following enhancements:

• Improved Java applet support for Safari and other web browsers that support the Java Internet Plug-In.
• Improved drawing correctness and performance.
• Changes to Java 1.3.1 that provide support for Oracle11i client applications on Mac OS X.
• Improved stability, memory usage, and correctness.

For more details on this update, please visit: http://www.apple.com/java/

But I want a "fun" update like iCal or iSync!

 

[JW Pepper]

Well I will be more than happy if this increases the number of web site that will now work correctly on Macs. It is a huge dissapointment that so many site only work on Windows PC's. If it hapens to speed things up a bit too then that is a bonus.

 

[nitropowered]

Re: What... no powerbooks boo!

Originally posted by freaky57
Apple really needs to get iTunes for Windows out there. Can you imagine if they have 10 millions songs just from mac users what that would be if Windows users were in on that number WOW!
Powerbooks would be nice , but so would actually having them available to ship the same day they are annouced instead of waiting for 4 months like the G5.

If apple does the "hey new Powerbooks...but one more thing you gotta wait until Chrsitmas" I wont buy it and suffer the anticipation of waiting and checking my apple status order overy other day to see if things change. Nope, not me I will actually wait until I see them in the stores.

Yeah, 10 mil songs by 5% of the computing world. Apple needs to get iTunes for Windows out the door at Paris along with iTunes Europe (you guys always get the shaft and I feel for you.) I would also like to see the eMacs updated up to par with the iMacs for those not needing a LCD. And Also, I think Apple will announce Panther at Paris for a 10/3 release date.