Apple Speaks Out Against Trump Order to Rescind Protections for Transgender Students

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    Apple tonight spoke out on U.S. President Donald Trump's move to rescind Obama administration protections for transgender students, providing a statement to Axios. The protections had allowed transgender students to use bathrooms that corresponded to their gender identity.

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    The Cupertino company reiterated its commitment to equality, saying that everyone deserves a chance to be free from stigma and discrimination.
    This isn't the first time Apple has spoken out against the actions of the Trump administration. In late January, CEO Tim Cook said that the immigration executive order was not a policy that Apple supported. Apple made its HR, legal and security teams available to employees who were affected and eventually joined nearly 100 firms filing a legal brief against the order.

    Under Cook, Apple has had a history of speaking out in favor of equality. In March 2015, Cook spoke out against Indiana's controversial "Religious Freedom" law, which allowed business owners to turn away LGBTQ customers by citing "religious freedom." Cook also called on Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson to veto the bill.

    Additionally, in 2013 both Cook and Apple came out in support of the Employment Nondiscrimination Act and released a statement of support after the Supreme Court gay marriage ruling.

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    Here we go again. Stick to making consumer products. :eek::(:rolleyes::eek:
     
  3. DrumApple macrumors 6502a

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    Funny how Apple is so quick to speak on political issues, but silent on even acknowledging their products MANY shortcomings - especially as of late - exactly what kind of company are they trying to be?
     
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    Nope. The education of students...all students, is everyone's responsibility to speak up about. They are our future.

    If Trump can comment on Apple products (which he did) then I see no reason why Apple cannot do the reverse.
     
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    Glad trump is focusing on the important issues :rolleyes:

    At the same time I'm getting a little tired of Apple giving their input on issues like this.
     
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    Build great products. Shut up. Stay out of it. This goes for all causes, liberal or conservative. As a corporation, there is no reason to alienate potential buyers on either side of the aisle.
     
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    Apple is capable of both making consumer products* and issuing three-sentence anti-discrimination statements to a news outlet. :)

    *Alright, so some of the Macs beg to differ, but that's another story...

    Apple obviously perceives that is in their best interest to make their position known. Silence could be interpreted as tacit agreement. I think this is good for them for both recruiting a diverse workforce (what if a talented engineer who happened to be trans felt uncomfortable applying?) as well as ensuring socially-conscious buyers know what kind of organization their money is supporting.

    I think most people's disagreement here can be boiled down to the fact that trans people freak them out and that they therefore don't want companies speaking up about it. (I had a couple friends from college who ended up being trans, and I think they were a great help for me in understanding these issues. I wish everyone could experience that, but everyone can at least read about it or have an open mind.) Much like gay rights, this shouldn't even be a political issue. Maybe Apple will stop speaking up about it when people's rights are no longer politicized, but I suspect you'll still be disappointed as, being a business, they probably have opinions on economic issues too, which probably going to also be considered political issues for the rest of time. :)
     
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    A company that sells products. Hard to do that if they say "our products suck" (which they don't, but there are shortcomings).
     
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    All of the things going on in our country and your main concern is the refresh cycle of the Mac Pro?

    In this moment they're being exactly the company I want them to be.
     
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    We the customers believe all of Apple's products deserve an equal opportunity to be updated on an annual basis. Where Mac Pros and Mac Minis are not left behind and treated equally. We disagree with any efforts to limit or rescind the use of ports for the sake of fashion.
     
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    Shareholders and consumers that just want a decent Mac may disagree.
     
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    Why are Americans complaining about Donald Trump? They clearly wanted this guy as president; they picked him in the primaries and then elected him over Hillary in the end as well. Stop whining.

    And don't give me the excuse that Hillary was no better... there was Bernie Sanders but it seems like Americans ignored him (he would have been great).
     
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    There won't be any shares for them to hold if the economy collapses. There's always a bigger picture.
     
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    Apple is going to collapse if they don't take sides on transgender bathrooms? That's what we're discussing - not the economy. Cut the hyperbole and stay on subject.
     
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    It is all a Game of Thrones.

    Bring the toasty pop-corn. This looks to be a 400-long thread.
     
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    I'm just gonna sit back and watch this thread degenerate into the usual mess on PRSI....
     
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    Fact check: Three million more individuals voted for Trump's opponent in the general election.
     
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    Clearly wasn't enough.
     
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    There's a reason why this thread is in PRSI and not MacRumors News. It is a story about a political situation. I'm not the one changing the subject to be about products.
     
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    I'm glad that he's using his influential power for the advancement of social norms. He knows he has the power to influence and he's using it. On the other hand, it would be nice to get some new iMacs and Mac Pros :rolleyes:
     
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    ....

    Someone went there.
     
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    I would be for using just the popular vote moving forward, but he won fairly under the current system. It's not the first time a president lost the popular vote and got elected, it's happened with other presidents even before Gore.
     
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    Clearly? No. He won in three states by a number so small they could all fit into the Rose Bowl stadium with room to spare.
     

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