So much money and nothing to show for ... this is like when Microsoft bought Nokia.Apple has spent over $6 billion for original TV shows
So much money and nothing to show for ... this is like when Microsoft bought Nokia.Apple has spent over $6 billion for original TV shows
The difference between music and TV subscriptions is that with music, you get it all, everything, all of the time. With TV, you get a tiny slice of what is there.
I guarantee Apple fans will subscribe, but intermittently. If they release their 5 exclusives on launch, millions of Apple fans will binge in the free trial.....or wait until they can.
My goodness, there’s a lot of angry white men in this comment section for a streaming service that off top will be successful due to the installed base alone.
I want it to succeed, but do I want to root for a TV production company or a pioneering innovative electronics company?
Once again we see the same old "it will flop" comments. The Apple Watch came out and people said it would flop (it's now the number one smartwatch on the market), Apple Music came out, the same people said it would flop, (it's doing really well), AirPods came out and yet again it was said that would flop. How about we actually wait and see what happens.
I think the content will start off small, but over time it will grow. There will be a free trial period, over that time i think more content will be added. The bonus with Apple is that it will be integrated into the devices (iPad, iPhone, Mac). I'm already interested in Apple Arcade, i have Apple Music (yearly £99 subscription), i just hope they do a bundle (Apple Arcade, Apple Music, Apple TV+).
In August 2007, a month or so after the iPhone's release, how well would we have been able to judge its eventual success?I’m going to wait and look at it for a month or so and judge Apple, the service and it’s content, based on what I get. That’s what everyone should do. You can’t do that right now, based on what we know right now.
Based on his own early investment in Pixar, I believe he would indeed have allowed it.Steve jobs would never allow this
Once again we see the same old "it will flop" comments. The Apple Watch came out and people said it would flop (it's now the number one smartwatch on the market), Apple Music came out, the same people said it would flop, (it's doing really well), AirPods came out and yet again it was said that would flop. How about we actually wait and see what happens.
I think the content will start off small, but over time it will grow. There will be a free trial period, over that time i think more content will be added. The bonus with Apple is that it will be integrated into the devices (iPad, iPhone, Mac). I'm already interested in Apple Arcade, i have Apple Music (yearly £99 subscription), i just hope they do a bundle (Apple Arcade, Apple Music, Apple TV+).
So has Timmy started censoring Apple Music yet?
Nobody said the iPhone would flop, except for the competition who badly needed it to flop. In fact the iPhone keynote even made it into Germany’s main evening news of that day. No other company announcement before or ever since raised to this level of importance. And this for a product which even at its jaw-dropping price wouldn’t be up for sale for months in the US and years in the rest of the world. Everyone instantly knew, we had entered a new era of mobile computing. Now tell me about this Netflix clone they are building today!?The iPhone will fail.
The iPad will fail.
The Apple Watch will fail.
The AirPods will fail.
Apple Music will fail.
Everything Apple does is gonna fail!!!!
Once again we see someone defending Apple saying remember the watch, homepods, iphone, etc. They said they would flop too. Lol
Let’s remember Apple had to hire a couple to do this since they have no experience. This isn’t an Apple made product. There’s no software + hardware story here. It’s just a desperate attempt at a revenue stream spending money they otherwise seemingly have no clue how to spend elsewhere. A panic reaction from slowing iPhone sales.
I’m reluctant to do subs. Sorry Apple. Atv wasn’t broken. But now atv becomes a bloated app trying to sell me stuff. It’s a downgrade in experience.
In August 2007, a month or so after the iPhone's release, how well would we have been able to judge its eventual success?
I'm sure that Apple is committed to this for the long term - - not to do so would be leaving money on the table in this emerging entertainment industry model.
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Based on his own early investment in Pixar, I believe he would indeed have allowed it.
Allied services reinforce the Apple ecosystem.Very different buying it from LucasFilm, renaming it Pixar, managing it as a a separate entity
Tim Cook is creating a whole new revenue model that is not linked to their main USP as a business.
No. But if you knew anything about the topic, you'd know that they're only producing family-friendly content.
Does that clear things up for you?
I haven't seen one compelling Apple produced show yet. Carpool karaoke sounded like a novelty that's about as interesting as animoji's. Fun for about a week. Then no one uses it anymore. The show about the space race that never ended? Sounds boring. A post-apocalyptic blind world? Uh not really interested. A show staring reese witherspoon and jennifer aniston? Don't care. Apple seems to have nothing edgy or compelling. Just more packaged, mainstream, vanilla content. No thanks.
netflix is a killer no way they can competeI'm going to be amazed if there is even one show I'm interested in watching.
Do you have any interest in hearing from someone who actually knows what Apple is producing?No. But if you knew anything about the topic, you'd know that they're only producing family-friendly content.
Does that clear things up for you?
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/02/eddy-cue-talks-apple-tv-plus-service/Cue says that Apple is aiming to create shows for everyone, from children to mature adults. "We're going to do a lot of different shows," he said. Apple will have television shows that aren't family friendly, such as "The Morning Show" with Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston.
"The Reese Witherspoon-Jennifer Aniston show [The Morning Show is a workplace drama set behind the scenes of breakfast TV]. It's a show about women in the workplace and some of the issues that happen to them are definitely not appropriate for you to watch with an eight-year-old."
They would have been better off taking a large investment in Netflix. Bad move by Cook and these things happen when you have cash to burn.
I wish they’d bought Time Warner. I think Apple would have done less to mess up HBO than AT&T will.They needed to buy one of the other streamers (or Fox). Don’t see how they have enough content to warrant a streaming service.
Easy choice between this and Disney plus.
Sell TV+Music for $9.99 and it’ll be a massive hit. Apple Music will become the new market leader, taking TV+ along for the ride.
IMO comes down to price. If Apple charges too much, it might be a disaster. They have to be the same as Netflix. $12p/m.
Another idea is a master subscription plan with Music, ATV+, storage, News, etc at $30 for a family of 4. That one might be enticing.
You are right. But the problem with bundling Music is the same as the one they faced during the initial free trials during the rollout; they still have to pay royalties, regardless of the end-price to the consumer.