Not at all. Americans will have to compete. Make the extra wages valuable for companies. If you think we can't, that's sad.
Yup, I switched jobs and didn't even meet the new team for I don't know how long, until we needed to hit a site for a job. It doesn't matter, we all work together well, even chat after hours often. This works.
I agree 100%. I would give the letter employees one chance to get on board and if they bocked, terminate them.
Too many people don’t try to be happier or better things, they want to make sure everyone has it as bad as them or worse. That’s how they derive their value. Either someone is below them they can look down on, or someone above them should be happy with what they have and shut up.
That’s salary. You’re forgetting the money spent on each employee for benefits, vacation, perks, etc etc. My income varies but I once got a peak at the cost of my employment. It was almost 3x my salary after including retirement, insurance, etc etc. Daily wages are only a snapshot of the picture.
The conversation has lost all meaning and context at this point. WFH might be more productive than being in the office but the details of the situation matter.
That's fair. I painted with a broad brush, but it's not to say it can never work. Size of org and nature of business matters. Consultants and sales rarely go back to the home office - they've always been remote but accountable to a greater authority (e.g. customer).
Let the whining begin. I haven’t missed any work due to covid, mask up and move on with your job.
Are you freaking kidding me?
Good points... And yeah, you're right, this is no different a conversation than when a bunch of boomers scream "They want $15 an hour to work the drive through??? When I was their age I made a buck an hour and I didn't complain one time! Bootstraps and stuff!"
What the letter employees said doesn't correlate to what you posted here.
I think that their point is that it’s functionally the same. I have yet to see one legitimate example here of how face to face is better.
So the lives and families of the people who have been working, now having to push the buttons those engineers once did, in the offices and labs since almost day one after WFH began don't matter? Where are they in your email? Entitled snot nosed brats.
A large group of Apple employees are opposing the company's plans to require three days of in-person work a week from September, according to a internal letter seen by The Verge.
In the detailed letter sent yesterday afternoon, addressed to CEO Tim Cook and the company's executive leadership, the Apple employees said that they want a more flexible approach where those who want to work remotely are able to do so.
Earlier this week, Tim Cook sent a note to Apple employees explaining that they will need to return to the office for at least three days a week starting in September. Teams that require in-person work will return to the office for four to five days a week, but most employees will still be able to have two days of remote work. Employees will also be able to work entirely remotely for up to two weeks every year, but the remote work requests will need to be approved by managers.
The new remote working policy is a distinctive easing compare to the company's previous working from home policy, but some Apple staff believe that the new plan does not go far enough and is "not sufficient in addressing many of our needs."
Benefits of more flexible work highlighted by the employees included diversity and inclusion in retention and hiring, tearing down previously-existing communication barriers, better work-life balance, better integration of existing remote workers, and reduced spread of pathogens.
The letter reportedly began in an Apple Slack channel for "remote work advocates" with around 2,800 members. As many as 80 employees are said to have been involved in writing and editing the note.
The letter summarised its formal requests as follows:
See the full letter at The Verge for more information.
Article Link: Apple Staff Complain About Plans for Return to Office Work in Letter to Tim Cook
I wonder if it is one of those open office spaces where they dictate where to place everything on your desk.
It’s not the same world as before the pandemic. Everyone should realize they are at greater risk simply by being in an office. Some, such as the immune compromised, could die. You have to make the policy apply to everyone to allow privacy with respect to medical issues.
Unless the letter employees have developed a physical disability or potential life threatening allergy etc., I don't see how they should be given exemptions.
While some work assignments along with VTC allow good interaction with management, I still see people that work remotely becoming less valuable because management can't interact with them on a regular basis. Its kinda you're known, but become someone the manager doesn't communicate that often as they do with other local staff to their work site.
