It is. But it also makes things better for most, if not everyone. The goal should be to push policy that avoids disability or injury. At the very least it’s morally wrong to force people into a situation knowing there was an avoidable risk.
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Apple Staff Complain About Plans for Return to Office Work in Letter to Tim Cook
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They all need to find new work. They knew the rules when they were hired.
If Apple had been forcing everyone to work during the Pandemic regardless, your post would have merit. I don't see that that was the case. If anything, Apple has gone above to be accommodating and understanding for their employees. As far as I am aware, there is no overt physical danger in returning to work 3 days a way unless an employee has an existing condition spoke of earlier.
Most employment in this country is done “at-will” which means either the employee or employer can renegotiate their terms any time they want unless there is a contract.
Apple paid people but didn’t ask them to work? Though I’m not sure how that changes much. This is clearly bad for some people, and employees have an obligation to fight for better protection and increase their rights. How I see it there is ‘a’ risk, and therefore their request is justified.
Ahh enjoy the reduced traffic while you can. For the last year it's been great to drive around locally, compared to sometimes driving through neighborhoods to bypass a accident on the freeway.
um, if someone is so immunocompromised that they can't work in an office with other people, then they can get a doctor's note.
That is not what I said. I said Apple didn't force people to go to work during the Pandemic. Apple made accommodations for employees so they could do other jobs (many of them remote support) and keep getting a paycheck.
Continuing to say the world has changed as a valid retort doesn't really work.
It’s not about people dropping dead on the street. It’s about letting people take reasonable precautions for themselves and their loved ones without having to justify it to their employer. Apple doesn’t need to know why they prefer to work remotely. They should simply respect the employees decision to do so without threatening their employment.
I’d air bnb part of it - love to visit that space ship. As for the team members that don’t want to work outside of home, I’m afraid the lackluster software improvements this past year are not going to help their cause. A real Microsoft Teams competitor is needed, perhaps assign them that or iWork improvements 😆
Before the Pandemic, the letter employees went to work like the other employees, even though there was unnamed danger that could happen at any time (as the case with all of us). Post Pandemic and all of a sudden, the letter employees are asking Apple to do a bunch of surveys so that said employees can hopefully find justification for not doing what they were asked to do previously.
The only thing that has changed with the letter employees is their attitude of believing that should be exempt from something potential unnamed hazards that don't seem to enter into the equation while at home and doing other things that take them away from home.
Their reasoning isn't adding up logically. It's a load of crap.
I feel the same about forced return. There is no logical justification for making people go into the office. So what if the building is expensive? That’s irrelevant to employee choice and safety.
Employees compromised by working from home and companies should pay up for accommodating them. It’s simple, employers gave up some control to stay profitable and now they want the control back. Well to bad.
LOL. What?! if an employee thinks that someone as intelligent as Tim Cook will fall for the ‘I work better at home’ nonsense, then think again.
Management need to not take this seriously. Of course an employee is going to make out its way better at home, or that its now effecting their mental health to come back in. They want the easiest route! Everyone wants an easier life. So, we will all make up **** to convince management.
Fact is, nothing beats F2F conversations for good meetings or idea discussions.
Management need to not take this seriously. Of course an employee is going to make out its way better at home, or that its now effecting their mental health to come back in. They want the easiest route! Everyone wants an easier life. So, we will all make up **** to convince management.
Fact is, nothing beats F2F conversations for good meetings or idea discussions.
You think meetings to discuss ideas or collaborate are just as good or better over video?? WOW 😂 ‘nO LoGIcAL juStiFicaTioN’.
Why does it need to stay the same? What’s the benefit of that?
…an “excuse” for what, exactly? Change is constant, pandemic or not.
Keep up with it, or get left behind.
I have made several prior examples of why face to face is better. But there are thousands/millions of individual situations. One size does not fit all. And one might be in a position where it doesn’t matter and your employer could give you the flexibility.
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They can’t even fit all their Silicon Valley employees in it. They have other offices all over the place. If some of the folks in that building prefer to stay home, plenty of others to fill it.
I am not saying everything has to stay the same. That wasn't the point. I am saying that the letter employees are making up excuses not to be held to the same standard as others.
You know what isn’t intelligent? Dogmatic absolutes like “no one could ever possibly work better at home.”
Actual intelligent people know to take new inputs all the time, and adjust/update their thinking to match.
If you don’t think so, next time you need one, get yourself a lawyer, doctor, pilot, real estate agent, or engineer who stopped keeping up with the developments in their field in 1995.
You’re going to be worse off, guaranteed.
You know that is approaching a political stance. The pandemic cannot be utilized as a argument against returning to work because your own opinion doesn't agree with the employer who is going by what the state/county has approved as acceptable activity.
This one is particularly stupid as the EIR was completed and approved before construction even began. That EIR, as one might expect, accounts for the building(s) being occupied per plan. Not surprisingly, the impacts identified in the EIR have more to do with the building itself rather than the people coming and going from it. If they wanted insight into the environmental impact, they could read the EIR themselves and be enlightened.
Their real motivation wasn't "insight" -- it was to wave the "E" flag in support of their cause.
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I wonder if this letter was written by enterprising employees who have every intent to go back to the office, thus gaining an advantage over less dedicated staff. Either way, bozo explosion culling happens.
That said, telecommuting has numerous benefits. Hopefully we will find a balance.
That said, telecommuting has numerous benefits. Hopefully we will find a balance.
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