We will not agree with anything that Apple suggests.
PERIOD.
We made the GSM we made the SIM and Apple can make what ever they please, dont bother us about it.
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Apple Still Fighting for Smaller SIM Card Standard for Future iPhones
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We will not agree with anything that Apple suggests.
PERIOD.
We made the GSM we made the SIM and Apple can make what ever they please, dont bother us about it.
Is there something wrong with that? Name a corporation that has actually said that they WANT competition.
Just pay for the phone up front rather than subsidized by the carrier and don't worry about it any more. All my phones are unlocked.
I find it ironic that they want to make a smaller SIM card, but then require a drawer to hold it, effectively making the required space larger again. Bizarre.
Bizarre? No the right word is enormous stupidity or creed. Depending are you a ripped off iToy customer or an Apple CEO
Even then it's not necessary. An eSIM could be universally programmable. Supply your IMEI number and switch carriers and accounts. It could be done on your phone itself. In fact it could automatically support carrier switching AND handle multiple phone numbers simultaneously in different countries.
Actually windows phone 7 is better than ios is many ways as far as usability goes (back button to go back to email after viewing link or attachment) and much better on battery life. They've actually have suffered the opposite where there is not enough marketing to get it exposure. I don't have one but the lack of a back button on IOS is my biggest complaint about the OS.
Why do we need a SIM card?
Can someone tell me why we need a SIM card at all?
All it is is a level of indirection -- a unique identifier -- that allows the telco to assign a phone number.
Each phone already has several of these, including a serial number and an IMEI.
For those people that need a SIM card for the off-chance they need to use another device, the telco can always give (or sell) them one.
Can someone tell me why we need a SIM card at all?
All it is is a level of indirection -- a unique identifier -- that allows the telco to assign a phone number.
Each phone already has several of these, including a serial number and an IMEI.
For those people that need a SIM card for the off-chance they need to use another device, the telco can always give (or sell) them one.
Try switching phones in another country, it'd be a mess. Sim cards are essential.
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The downside to that is that it costs a LOT initially. But the long term gains far outweigh that, because with that, you don't need to sign a prison sentence contract with a carrier just to have a subsidized phone and deal with their ridiculous rules.
Best thing to happen to Canada in the telecommunications space was Wind Mobile. The oligopoly between Rogers and Bell quickly revised their offerings with contracts but none of them offer anything less than 2 years contract.
Exactly. Look at CDMA. They have an e-SIM type system, and although it is theoretically possible to switch carriers, in the U.S. they effectively don't allow it. With a SIM, more power is in the customer's hands. You can stick any SIM in your phone, and you can freely move your SIM (and service) to the phone of your choice.
Apple, please don't mess up this system that works quite well, just to gain a few mm of space.
Because the world has moved on, new technologies come every day. If someone has invented something better, which makes a marked improvement on old standards, then it is fair and proper to demand and receive a (small) royalty. Besides, I don't hear too many people apologising for all the things that have been reversed engineered in the Far east over the years...
You do realize what your relationship is in this matter is, right?
Here we are, folks. A poster actually saying he wants less competition. That wooshing sound is the definitions of "free market", "joint standard", and "consumer friendly" all sailing high over his head.
Really? I think Metro is pretty innovative for a phone OS (certainly more so than Android) and I love the integration between apps that it has--something iOS lacks IMO.
Funny, because I would almost argue the opposite. Apple's strong suit is marketing (its commercials are pretty good), while Microsoft's is not. Does Microsoft Office not count as a product?
I assume the next thing you're going to say is that you're a shareholder of Apple and you want Apple to monopolize the phone industry?
But in response, yes there is, for the majority of us who don't own shares of Apple. Solely wanting no competition is not necessarily bad (I'm sure every company thinks that, as you said). Acting on it, however, like Apple is doing, is definitely bad for consumers.
Thats the most retarded idea, and totally undermines the point of GSM, which was made to encourage competition and have a shared standard.
Removable security (SIM cards) are ESSENTIAL to an open, free network. And TBH, micro SIMs are TINY. Yes, they're a little bit of space, but not enough to really matter. Apple may like the aesthetics of getting it down to zero, but making it harder to swap between iPhones and other phones also appeals to them. It's a MESS.
MicroSIM is tiny, fairly widely adopted now, let's keep it - it WORKS. And it's customer friendly. Oh, and let's have a removable security mandate (like China even has! CSIM is widely used there - though Verizon now uses CSIM for the CDMA side of LTE phones), and an unlocking mandate.
MicroSIM is tiny, fairly widely adopted now, let's keep it - it WORKS. And it's customer friendly. Oh, and let's have a removable security mandate (like China even has! CSIM is widely used there - though Verizon now uses CSIM for the CDMA side of LTE phones), and an unlocking mandate.
That isn't Apple, thats your carrier. Nearly all carriers that hold the iPhone in the EU unlock them.
In all this apple bashing, have people considered that Apple may be suing purely as a defensive strategy? Because they are the dominant power, with a strong balance sheet, everyone else is suing them! Surely, if it was you, however liberal you are, you would want to sue right back so you have some leverage in settlement negotiations. If Apple sat back and did nothing, half the world (starting with Germany and Scandinavia) wouldn't have iPhones...
What? What about when you want to change network inside your own country. SIM card is the vital part of GSM.
Any standard that doesn't allow SIM cards for phones, will be instantly barred from Europe.
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Actually, Verizon LTE phones have LTE GSM SIM Cards (which are backwards compatible with GSM/HSPA), but they don't have a HSPA network or in their phones, which means its never used.
LTE requires new SIM cards, but their backwards compatible. Similar to UMTS.
Phase I of the GSM specifications were published in 1990. The world's first GSM call was made by the Finnish prime minister Harri Holkeri to Kaarina Suonio (mayor in city of Tampere) on July 1, 1991.
Happy 21st birthday GSM!!! But that's a long time ago. Out with the old. In with the new.
Thats what a SIM Card is, and that is the most retarded idea ever.
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GSM may be old, but its no way getting ancient like CDMA. LTE is part of the GSM family, and HSPA is also part of the GSM family.
UMTS still requires SIM Cards, and so does LTE.
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And Vodafone UK made the first roaming agreement with Finland.
In the UK, its now illegal to offer 3 year contracts.
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No, Apple can not see a system that already works well, and is made to be this way.
An American Company submitting a proposal to the GSMA, ETSI and 3GPP isn't going to go very far.