Same here, just got mine in the mail yesterday... After spending money to upgrade the other parts I'm glad to see I was lucky enough to get the complete kit.
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Apple Still Using SSDs With Varying Speeds on New MacBook Air
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Same here, just got mine in the mail yesterday... After spending money to upgrade the other parts I'm glad to see I was lucky enough to get the complete kit.
I setup an appointment today to request either a replacement or refund. It's only been a few days so I'll probably just end up getting a refund. I would expect them to put these perhaps in the lower end models but I even opted for the i7 / most expensive model possible. Kinda pissed. :/
I wouldn't be so picky if this were my "internet" machine but I bought it specifically to be as fast and portable as possible so I could program / edit / design on the go without a noticeable speed decrease.
Yeah, that is definitely true. I thought you were suggesting that they won't let you check any machine before buying, which doesn't sound right.
Depends on what you do but sounds like your usage isn't very I/O heavy (since you didn't mention anything specific) so you wouldn't notice any difference at all.
Should be the GPU problem. Worst SSD still would be faster than any regular HDD. And iMac with regular HDD wouldn't lag on animation. So that should be it
Difference being with the rev.B display issue of course was that was a very much unacceptable flaw for the majority of those aware. The relative R/W speeds of these two SSDs is not that apparent, but psychologically of course it does have an impact at purchase point.
I agree. I am currently waiting for mine to arrive and the thing I am most excited about, after its diminutive size, is the speed at which apps open etc., with an SSD. For this reason I will be disappointed if I get the slower drive. Not enough to send it back I am sure, but it will always bug me.
Well don't check then. See my post above
Totally unrealistic of course, it'll be the first thing you do on booting up I bet.
This just makes sense. After all, it isn't like the Toshiba drives or LG displays are defective. They are within Apple's specs and function as intended.
I agree it can be frustrating for some people, but so what?
People pay different prices for the same car.
People get different interest rates for the same mortgage principle.
People get different wages for the same work.
And then there's this guy:
http://moneyland.time.com/2011/07/18/man-gets-330000-home-for-16/
Big deal. Someone always has it better off than you, and you are always better off than someone else.
The bottom line is did you get what you willingly paid for? If yes, then there's no problem.
My thoughts exactly. Maybe I'm anal, but knowing I had just bought the same laptop for the same price but received a disadvantaged machine... it would drive me crazy.
And I'm hoping to upgrade the MBP and the MB my office currently uses by the end of the year. Not sure if going to sacrifice mobility for performance and get iMacs or maximize mobility with Airs. Now, one more factor to balance.
Uh Oh! I can see a lot of sour consumers lining up at Genius Bar for a Samsung SSD. This will really piss people off. It's kind of like Xbox, when everyone was looking for the Falcon chip inside
Apple GOLD loyalty account holders get the Samsungs everyone else gets stuck with the Toshibas. Thankfully most MR members qualify for GOLD status by virtue of all the Apple products they own.
That's what I was looking for. Thanks. If only that would reduce the bandwidth in this thread.
Rocketman
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1197959/
Read the above forums post. I think its pretty interesting. Here's the main gist made by theSeb.
"There are times when I do a lot and then I do something like actually read the web page, or edit a document or edit my code or swear at the computer in frustration. I am not always doing something where the drive needs to do intensive work. This chart tells us that the difference between the fastest and the slowest drive tested is 869.7 seconds, which is equivalent to nearly 14.5 minutes. Therefore, I've managed to save 14.5 minutes by buying the fastest drive on a workload that is equivalent to a couple of days from a human perspective. Think about that for a moment. So how much time have I really saved?
The point remains, unless you're doing 50 things at the same time and running 5 automated build servers on 5 different virtual machines, which compile lots of code and runs lots of automated tests and downloading, copying, editing photos, and editing a movie on the side too, you, as a real user, are the bottleneck; not the SSD drive.
There are instances and workflows where the fastest SSD is justifiable, but even the "slow", "crappy" drives are fast enough for 98% of you. Do not stress whether you have the Samsung or the Toshiba SSD. Enjoy your new computer because you won't even see the difference, unless booting up in 0.5 of a second and having a better xbench score is really important to you.
Perhaps I've misunderstood what these benchmarks are doing and perhaps someone like HellHammer can chat to Anand and correct me."
Read the above forums post. I think its pretty interesting. Here's the main gist made by theSeb.
"There are times when I do a lot and then I do something like actually read the web page, or edit a document or edit my code or swear at the computer in frustration. I am not always doing something where the drive needs to do intensive work. This chart tells us that the difference between the fastest and the slowest drive tested is 869.7 seconds, which is equivalent to nearly 14.5 minutes. Therefore, I've managed to save 14.5 minutes by buying the fastest drive on a workload that is equivalent to a couple of days from a human perspective. Think about that for a moment. So how much time have I really saved?
The point remains, unless you're doing 50 things at the same time and running 5 automated build servers on 5 different virtual machines, which compile lots of code and runs lots of automated tests and downloading, copying, editing photos, and editing a movie on the side too, you, as a real user, are the bottleneck; not the SSD drive.
There are instances and workflows where the fastest SSD is justifiable, but even the "slow", "crappy" drives are fast enough for 98% of you. Do not stress whether you have the Samsung or the Toshiba SSD. Enjoy your new computer because you won't even see the difference, unless booting up in 0.5 of a second and having a better xbench score is really important to you.
Perhaps I've misunderstood what these benchmarks are doing and perhaps someone like HellHammer can chat to Anand and correct me."
I'm trying to think of something I care about that has less of an impact upon my life, and I'm having a hard time.
From my point of view, it's not like some MBA get a slower drive (Toshiba), instead some of them get a faster drive (Samsung). I mean, both drives are very fast compared to the standard hard drives, and as somebody said before, they both are under Apple's specs.
Any manufacturer can vary their designs as long as they don't change the main features. Apple could install an even faster SSD tomorrow, and they would be within the advertised features. Does that give us the right to go to the Apple Store and cry for a replacement? I don't think so.
Does it mean that much if one MBA opens Word 2 seconds faster than another?
Any manufacturer can vary their designs as long as they don't change the main features. Apple could install an even faster SSD tomorrow, and they would be within the advertised features. Does that give us the right to go to the Apple Store and cry for a replacement? I don't think so.
Does it mean that much if one MBA opens Word 2 seconds faster than another?
If one version actually did open Word 2 seconds faster, it would mean something. But in reality, the differences are far less noticeable.
This is a quality control let down from apple. I bet apple is just trying to get rid of their extra Flash memory left over from the first macbook airs. Disappointment that they did not keep high standards and equality amongst the product quality for all laptops of the same model. Proves that apple isn't as sweet as it seems, just a regular company looking to save a buck.
Then again, as long as people buy it without caring, I guess it doesn't really matter.
Then again, as long as people buy it without caring, I guess it doesn't really matter.
Or just swap it out for a better OWC one
but then you'll lose trim support, right since apple doesn't support TRIM in anyone elses SSD's?
TBH, this MBA is far faster and easier to use than my old netbook, regardless of the SSD manufacturer.
It will never be subjected to high-end video editing or anything processor-intensive so I don't think the numbers will make any difference to my-day-to-day experience.
Non-issue.
It will never be subjected to high-end video editing or anything processor-intensive so I don't think the numbers will make any difference to my-day-to-day experience.
Non-issue.