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Even if the difference between these SSD's is very slight, I will make shure that I get the best product for the same price.

Why would I EVER pay the same money for a worse product?
 
I can't trust apple anymore... every new products have every time some ******** issues.
 
Go to the Apple store, tell them you want to buy a Macbook Air, but you only want one with the Samsung SSD. Have them try it out in the store before you buy to make sure.

If enough people do that, Apple will start to get the idea that it matters.

You can't do that.

Apple doesn't advertise a specific speed standard. Just that it's an SSD.
 
As long as all MacBook Airs conform to Apple's advertised specs, the slower one can't be considered defective.

If you get something better than specs, congratulations, but not getting the faster one is not a legitimate cause of dissatisfaction.

You're paying for what the spec sheet says. There's no fairness rule that says no one can get anything better if you don't get it too.
 
Well... although this is not really a big deal for most people... this is still annoying. If two people pay the same price for the same macbook... they should be getting the same spec on their hardware.

no kidding, that's what makes me mad
Like maybe if they used slower ones on a lower end model, but like all the air's have the same specs, no reason why the ssd's should run at different speeds
 
If anything, it'll be the video card. It's not the SSD, unless you're out of memory and paging (shouldn't happen for regular users). Lion is also still very new, and Apple will optimise the code that is responsible for all that stuff (the Window Manager/Compositor) to the point that by 10.7.3 or so it'll be noticeably better (at least, it should be). Also, the just-released Airs have HD3000 graphics, which aren't all that hot, but should still be able to animate a single screen happily.

I think the animations have to do with Lion optimizations as you mentioned as well. On my 2010 MBA the screen animations (at times) are not as smooth as they were with SL as well as the "instant on" being far less instant than it was with SL.

As far as the SSD thing is concerned. I wonder if it's completely random or if higher end configurations are more likely to get the Samsung SSD?
 
They save the good hardware for the real computers. Not the ones that simply exist on a gimmick to be thin.
 
but then you'll lose trim support, right since apple doesn't support TRIM in anyone elses SSD's?

Ah! You would think so, but that is not correct. It actually is taking care of TRIM the way it should be, NOT by the OS. The Sandforce controller takes care of it, OS independent :) I personally will not buy a 3rd party SSD unless it has Sandforce controller. They are by far the best!
 
You can't do that.

Apple doesn't advertise a specific speed standard. Just that it's an SSD.

You can rerturn a product for any reason.

As noted by others, for most people this is a non-issue. But if you are one of those who will stress over this, get what you want and don't settle for less.
 
Ah! You would think so, but that is not correct. It actually is taking care of TRIM the way it should be, NOT by the OS. The Sandforce controller takes care of it, OS independent :) I personally will not buy a 3rd party SSD unless it has Sandforce controller. They are by far the best!

Well said, and agreed! Sandforce rules!
 
Thanks Apple for making buying your hardware a crapshoot. Real awesome treating your customers like crap. So now anyone buying a Macbook Air has to worry about getting the good screens AND the good memory. Awesome.
 
This just makes sense. After all, it isn't like the Toshiba drives or LG displays are defective. They are within Apple's specs and function as intended.

The yellow screens on the iMacs were all within Apple's specs too. Doesn't mean the products are good. Just means Apple spec to the lowest common denominator at the expense of their consumers.

I'm trying to think of something I care about that has less of an impact upon my life, and I'm having a hard time.

And yet you cared enough to post.
 
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Are people really complaining about this? The normal user won't ever pry open or even check the air's specs, let alone be able to tell the difference. If it bothers you that much either don't check, or don't buy the product. :D
 
This has got me thinking... how much you think apple would knock off the price if they take the ssd out so i can buy my own ;) Jk all... jk.
 
They save the good hardware for the real computers. Not the ones that simply exist on a gimmick to be thin.

Any one of them will kick the s*** out of the "real" MacBook you have in your sig, no matter who made the SSD.
 
As long as all MacBook Airs conform to Apple's advertised specs, the slower one can't be considered defective.

If you get something better than specs, congratulations, but not getting the faster one is not a legitimate cause of dissatisfaction.

You're paying for what the spec sheet says. There's no fairness rule that says no one can get anything better if you don't get it too.

So if you were buying say a specific car model, would you be happy with one with a less powerful engine than the next person's car, even though it cost you the same and still gets you from A to B?
 
Why hasn't anyone sued yet? :p

I'm told that is the reason why US hospitals often can't afford to update things like X-ray equipment. If they have two x-ray machines, one breaks down, and they replace it with a newer model, then anyone getting x-rayed with the older equipment can sue them for not getting the best possible care.

Now lets say Apple needs one million drives. One company can deliver 500,000 faster drives, and another one can deliver 1,000,000 slower drives. They both cost the same. What do you suggest Apple should do?

1. Sell only 500,000 computers instead of a million.
2. Sell 500,000 Macs with fast drives and 500,000 with slower ones, and get sued.
3. Sell one million Macs with slower drives.


So if you were buying say a specific car model, would you be happy with one with a less powerful engine than the next person's car, even though it cost you the same and still gets you from A to B?

Did you get what you paid for? I hope you realise that you can now never, ever buy any refurbished Mac or iPad, because some people are lucky and get Macs with faster processors, more RAM, bigger hard drive, for the same price.


For a component that has a huge impact on performance, this is quite the dick move on Apple's part.

How is it "dick move" if you have a chance to get a faster drive?
 
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I think this is fast becoming ridiculous I mean in day to day use there should be almost zero difference so stop getting hung up on it and enjoy your laptop.
 
TBH, this MBA is far faster and easier to use than my old netbook, regardless of the SSD manufacturer.

It will never be subjected to high-end video editing or anything processor-intensive so I don't think the numbers will make any difference to my-day-to-day experience.

Non-issue.

It should be faster, it probably cost 3 times as much!
 
Any one of them will kick the s*** out of the "real" MacBook you have in your sig, no matter who made the SSD.

To be fair my MacBook is from 2007 not 2011.

I love Apple but I just hate the Air. I would rather they spend the resources they put into it on making the Pro better. The 13" Air and Pro take up pretty much the exact same footprint. How the the gimmickry of it's thinness help anything but make it a bit lighter?

I assure you the next Pro will smoke this new Air.
 
To be fair my MacBook is from 2007 not 2011.

I love Apple but I just hate the Air. I would rather they spend the resources they put into it on making the Pro better. The 13" Air and Pro take up pretty much the exact same footprint. How the the gimmickry of it's thinness help anything but make it a bit lighter?

I assure you the next Pro will smoke this new Air.

It will smoke the Air. But thats not the point. The Air is more powerful then my 3 year old iMac desktop. And infinitely more portable. The MBA isn't about getting the best bang for buck. Its about being light and ultra portable. It is all that and has enough horsepower for the majority of people to get by on
 
To be fair my MacBook is from 2007 not 2011.

I love Apple but I just hate the Air. I would rather they spend the resources they put into it on making the Pro better. The 13" Air and Pro take up pretty much the exact same footprint. How the the gimmickry of it's thinness help anything but make it a bit lighter?

I assure you the next Pro will smoke this new Air.

Just because you are not interested in a product, it doesn't mean that nobody is. The Air has been flying off the shelves and may well replace the MacBook as "The" Apple notebook. Size and/or weight are important when shopping around for a lot of things--cars, cameras, clothes, a girlfriend, whatever--so why not for computers too?
 
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